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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:01 AM
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Did Obama give a concession speech after Nevada?
I recall he left the state and issued a written statement, just as Clinton did last night. I could be wrong, however.

Before the flames, please, I'm an Obama supporter -- but I think many of you know I try to be, for the most part, neutral in my posting here. I'm just asking the question, in fairness.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:03 AM
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1. he won more delegates
or at least, assumed he did at the time. I don't think he needed to. I mean, he didn't lose by 30 points.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:08 AM
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5. Then I would like to have seen his victory speech.
IMO, the perception among most is that Clinton won Nevada. We were waiting to hear from Obama, and the networks said that he had gone to Illinois, and a statement from him was read. Or, at least that's what i recall.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:48 PM
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21. How many times are you going to post the same damn thing
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 03:48 PM by HughMoran
That doesn't address the O/P's point - doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:03 AM
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2. Why would the candidate who won the most delegates in NV
Concede? He did concede in NH.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:04 AM
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4. Why did he concede NH then? He won as many delegates as Hillary did in NH
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:13 AM
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7. Did you watch that speech? I did.
As soon as I saw it I said to my girl frined "that's his victory speech". It was immediately clear that Obama delivered the speech that he prepared for when he won NH, except that he needed to insert one line at the front acknowledging Hillary's win. That was the only "concession" aspect of that speech. The media commented on it at the time. It wasn't a gracious speech, it was a proud triumphant speech which when given in the context of having lost was a defiant speech. I don't mind that personally, but for what it is worth it wasn't in the slightest bit a gracious speech, it was a call to arms.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:04 AM
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3. It's a BS issue on either side
I think Joe Scarborough brought it up, and has subsequently corrected the record with what amounts to an apology.

How much time did either candidate spend bewailing it? Zero seconds. As it should be.

Three excellent heroes, in competition for the candidacy ... Let the contest continue!

--p!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:12 AM
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6. You, Pigwidgeon, get a gold medal from me. I didn't know Scarborough...
had spoken to the issue -- and I agree, it shouldn't be a big issue. In fact, IMO, there is an amazing amount of crap in this contest, on all sides, that is blown out of all proportion. I'm just really disheartened that this contest between these candidates, two of which are historic frontrunners and one of which provides a social conscience, has descended to the level it has. It's like a dream gone to nightmare.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:14 AM
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8. The whole sorry saga - chronicled here - NBC news STILL ran the lie
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:17 AM
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10. So Obama didn't need to speak after Nevada because the contest was close?
I don't like to be argumentative, and the press and pundits are agreeing with you. I just recall that Obama, who is my own candidate, conceded similarly after Nevada -- with a statement.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:15 AM
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9. Right. The candidates themselves haven't whined about this after any contest n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:29 AM
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11. The controversy about concession speeches in primary races is a bit off the beam to me
I can't even remember if there have been concession speeches following every single primary loss in the past. There may have been, but it can't have been such a big deal or I think I would remember one or two of them. These are not elections, where somebody is going to take office a few months later. Primaries are victories or losses, but they are not conclusive that very day. Pick up a phone and say congrats. If you're giving a speech start off with a high (maybe medium) five and then give the speech that is in your own interest. Live to fight another day.

This political politesse, or lack of it, is a silly thing to go on about, imo, on all sides.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:17 AM
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15. me too
why does everyone suddenly care so much about concession speeches?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:15 PM
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27. I agree. But MSNBC went to great length to make an attack - then took it back,
then launched it again in NBC. There were many hysterical threads accusing Hillary of being "classless' "disgusting" etc - for her allegedly not doing it.
So I had to spend time correcting a lie - even if it's a little thing. But so moves DU nowadays.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:54 AM
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12. Why would he conceed? He didn't lose.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:56 AM
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13. See post 5. I would like to have seen a victory speech then. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:59 AM
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14. He did give a speech - and pointed out that he got more delegates
The speech was, as usual, excellent.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:18 AM
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16. Was it on caucus night? From Nevada or Chicago? Not questioning --
just curious.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:41 PM
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17. I think I was wrong - what I remembered was likely
a conflation of the statement issued and some previous coverage played. Sorry to have been the source of wrong information.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:52 PM
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23. wow
I'm feeling faint!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:28 PM
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24. Thank you so much for such a gracious, honest answer. I tried to...
ask the question similarly, and hope I succeeded. I sincerely thought I might have been mistaken.

:)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:07 PM
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26. Your question was very polite
I was "sure" I had heard it - but from googling - it was a statement. I should have checked as so many said there wasn't one.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:44 PM
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18. Either conceding or declaring victory would have been dumb.
Concede, and you spin away your delegate victory. Declare victory, and you draw indirect attention to your vote-count loss. A think a more-neutral speech would have been in order there.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:45 PM
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19. No, he spun it as him winning since it was a tie and he got more delegates
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:46 PM
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20. Imho, both he and Clinton has been cavalier to wards their volunteers.
I guess that's my issue.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:50 PM
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22. You're an Obama supporter and you can't get them to be reasonable
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 03:50 PM by HughMoran
Imagine what it is like for those of us who are supporting either candidate or another one.

You would do just as well to try to talk to a stone wall.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:29 PM
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25. I think it addresses her question. What did Obama have to concede?
Did Hillary concede the delegate count to him?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:17 PM
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28. Respect the vote of the majority of people in Nevada?
:shrug:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:09 PM
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30. Thats not how the system is set up. The vote of the people of Nevada was to elect delegates
He won the most, so once again, what did he have to concede?
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:21 PM
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29. He should have conceded ...
... but the Clinton campaign hasn't been playing nice, so he was probably pissed off.
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