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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:10 PM
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If Edwards wins no states and Dean wins one, is Edwards out?
I think if Edwards cannot win Georgia and come close in a couple others he needs to step aside so Kerry can carry on.

I say this as someone that wants Clark to be President, and voted and support Kucinich since Clark dropped out.

I think the race is over tonight and we need to start promoting Kerry and smashing Bush so that we can win the General Election.

Anybody but Bush BABY!

FEAR ENDS
HOPE BEGINS
KUCINICH '04
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:12 PM
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1. No
he should continue as long as he feels he can so that between Dean, Edwards, Kucinich, and Sharpton delegates the platform can be influenced.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:16 PM
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3. Hey, alot of states haven't had the chance to vote. I'm voting Dean or
Kucinich....depending. But I can't even vote until April....
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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:18 PM
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7. April, WOW! Why not just make it October? I am sorry you are so
late in the nomination process.
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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:17 PM
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4. Yes, but mathematically, he will not be able to win, so what is the point
For Kucinich and Sharpton I can see. They have issues they need to push. But Edwards's issues are the same as Kerry's for the most part, just a little more to the right. Edwards is not an "Issues" candidate.

Edwards is more of a VP candidate. If he continues the internal Democratic fight that could hinder Kerry for the General Election, don't you think?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:16 PM
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2. if he's smart, he's out
it costs money to run a campaign, and what's the point if you can't win it. DK and Sharpton can stay in because they are running things on a smaller scale and can avoid the kind of debt problems that Edwards will have.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:17 PM
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20. Dean could have scaled back and stayed in, but he decided
to turn tail and run.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:50 PM
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23. Dean saw the writing on the wall
Getting out, or suspending his campaign, was really the only sensible decision he could make. His debts were and are huge, and why make them bigger when it is clear that victory is not forthcoming. At least he's still on the ballot, and will win a state tonight, for whatever that's worth.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:17 PM
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5. Yes, if he wants a future in the party, he should quit.
If he doesn't quit, it is political suicide, and makes him look just as bad as Dean did staying in.

The party wants to unite. He already has delegates to work with at the convention--all of the candidates do.

He should have left the building last week...
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:18 PM
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6. Edwards out and Dean back in?
:-)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:19 PM
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8. That would be weird.
And cool at the same time.
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TomSeaver Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:20 PM
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10. Its time to rally
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 05:20 PM by TomSeaver
around one guy. We need Kerry to spend his resources on Bush not fighting against Edwards.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:10 PM
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17. I was just kidding you know.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:11 PM
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18. Not really a problem...
Kerry isn't spending his resources fighting Edwards because he doesn't need to. And keeping the primary going means the attention is off of Chimpy and on the dems.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:18 PM
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21. That would be impossible.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:20 PM
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9. Not going to happen.
Dean is cooked. Done. Finite. Adios. Over.

Edwards should join him.
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TheBigDemo Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:21 PM
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11. I doubt that, Kerry will have enough delegates to seal the deal and
Dean is in debt up to his eyeballs. Not to mention it would be seen as an attack on the party.

I admit that Kerry will not have 100% of the delegates needed after today. But he will be so far ahead any other candidate would need to get about 80% of the remaining delegates. Unlikely considering that Kerry would get more than 40% in every state.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:43 PM
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15. Dean is in debt up to his eyeballs.?????????????
dean is in less debt than kerry! he has very minor campaign debts. i think john glenn still has greater debt than dean.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:22 PM
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12. God I hope so...
Let em all be out.. its over!
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:28 PM
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13. why narrow things down to one "target" for the repubs so early
keep em guessing...keep em spending bucks trying to figure it all out. This way the focus is ON the dems and OFF (somewhat) Boosh.


I say the longer this plays out the better....once the dem is nominated...isn't everyone on here ABB so who care who the candiate is , he's fgoing to get all the Dems votes anyway , right?

So whats the hurry?? People should be grateful for all the dem candidates drawing fire away from the final nominee.

Peace
DR
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cmayer Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 05:29 PM
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14. Long time Edwards supporter sez: Time to step down
I've been an Edwards guy since the MoveOn primary forced me to make a choice. If those exit polls stand up, I'm taking a magic marker and writing in "Vice" next to President on my Edwards bumper sticker. My Kerry sticker goes on tomorrow.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:09 PM
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16. Because
Vermont has a scant fifteen delegates, of which Dean is now poplling to win only 2/3ds of. making that 10 delegates added to what he already has which still places him behind Edwards (especially with Edwards probably raking in another 100-300 delegates tonight.) Which would leave Dean without any possibility to mathematically overtake Kerry, or Edwards.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:15 PM
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19. Dean couldn't win a game of PIG, if you spotted him the first
two letters. Dean is toast, politically. Relegated to the dust bin of politics, to be found with the likes of Ed Muskie and Dan Quayle.
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:40 PM
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22. And Judas Iskerryot couldn't lead his way out of a wet paper bag
as he's proven repeatedly since the White House was stolen.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:54 PM
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24. If wishes were horses....
eom
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