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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:50 PM
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For those of you hating Hillary running because of her husband would you be against
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 02:56 PM by xultar
Michelle Obama running even if Obama wins?

So I guess to be consistent with that whole first lady experience is bullshit and hating dynasty thing won't play here ahe?

I wouldn't be opposed to her running. Shit, she's a sharp lady
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:52 PM
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1. Well, there is that whole "never served in elected office before" issue...
...but if she ran for the House or something, that would be fine with me.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:53 PM
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2. She could run for his old senator from IL seat. Then go to President.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:56 PM
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3. I guess, but Obama is still an Illinois Senator--and shows no sign of leaving...
....unless elected in the GE. So in that case, the IL governor would select someone, right?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:01 PM
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6. I'm not saying now. I'm just saying ...what if she ran..period
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:57 PM
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4. Hmm. If she ran for his seat now, and ran for president in '16...
wouldn't the timing even be similar?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:00 PM
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5. Timing isn't it. I'm just saying her running period.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:06 PM
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8. Oh, I agree.
I think the whole dynasty meme is idiotic.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:01 PM
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7. I'm against Laura Bush running
If Michelle Obama wants to be a politician, she can go be one. First Lady does not qualify someone to become President.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:16 PM
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9. Her husband hasn't done anything to make me oppose her yet.

Bill Clinton had the opportunity in 1993 to reverse directions in this country. Instead he opted to do nothing more than slow this country's movement backwards, making it simple for the next Republican president to just take off the brakes and let her fly.

Add to that the fact that Hillary only became a Democrat when the Rockefeller campaign she was working on in '68 lost the GOP nomination to Nixon, and I have a really difficult time buying into the notion that she has any interest whatsoever in moving the United States forward.

I believe 2009 is another year in which the new president has the opportunity to change directions. So let's not blow it (entirely) this time.

In another year I might not have felt so strongly about this. Heck, I used to be called a Conservative. Yet, without changing my position on anything, I suddenly find myself a whack-job leftist! This country has done some serious backsliding in my life. I would really like to see that corrected.

If/when Obama betrays us he would certainly be a major drag on Michelle's political aspirations should she have any.

And he may. The difference I see between him and Hillary is that I believe he compromises himself into the center while the center is really where she wants to be. I don't believe she triangulates, I believe she is exactly the person she pretends to be. All the evidence points to Hillary still being a Rockefeller Republican at heart. She is, in short, a swing voter who just happens to be Democrat because she (1) married one and (2) the Republicans have gone bat-shit crazy.

Obama may end up being too weak/cowardly/whatever to move this country forward. But I at least believe he WANTS to move it forward.


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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:41 PM
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12. So you would oppose some one based upon the acts of their spouse?
How strange.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:20 PM
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10. I don't know anyone who oposes her because she's married to Bill.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 03:20 PM by bowens43
I oppose her because of who she is and what she has done.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:42 PM
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13. that makes more sense than opposing her because of what her husband did.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:22 PM
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11. I have nothing against spouses or first ladies running
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 03:23 PM by rox63
I have problems with Hillary Clinton as a candidate. And I don' think 8 years as first lady necessarily qualifies as experience towards running this country.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:43 PM
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14. Seeing how she disagreed with Bill on NAFTA and Rawanda...I wonder.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:10 PM
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15. Thank you!
Reason enters the debate. And I totally agree with you about Michelle! :applause:
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 05:22 PM
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16. it's a free country (supposedly); i definitely have no problem with her running for anything,
but then i'm a hill supporter.
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