DLC haters love Obama. What disagreements does Obama have with the DLC?

[jackson_dem]

I have noticed the DLC has had nothing negative to say about Obama. It looks like they have no problem with the "change" he will bring.

[iconoclastic cat]

1. Oh, for the love of crap. nt

[jackson_dem]

2. I take that as meaning 0?

[Bullet1987]

3. Oh for the love of God...

[iconoclastic cat]

4. I'm going to bounce. I recommend all sane people abondon ship.

DU being the ship.

[denem]

7. Obama is campaigning to the right of Clinton

Stimulate the economy: tax cuts! Have we really not moved on from 1980? Both Edwards and Clinton are proposing muli-pronged solutions which are NOT pure supply side.

One exception is Obama's policy of lifting the cap on Social Security. I think it is good politics for Clinton not to show her hand here, as Walter 'I will raise your taxes' Mondale found out.

[Occam Bandage]

12. Cognitive dissonance is funny.

"It's conservative when Obama proposes tax rebates, and non-noteworthy when he proposes tax hikes on the rich. When Hillary disagrees with raising taxes on the rich, it isn't conservative, it's...er...smart politics."

Oh, and by the way? You clearly don't know what "supply-side" means. Tax rebates for consumers are about as demand-side as you can get.

[durrrty libby]

5. Simple questions makes their heads hurt

:hangover:

[CRH]

6. Obama has stated, 'I'm not a member of the DLC, but, ...

if one looks at his votes, one looks at his foreign policy statements (right out of the PPI), his approach to health care ...; one would have to split the same hair many times to find dissension from DLC politics.

I will watch this thread closely, to see if I can learn where his politics diverge.

[OHdem10]

8. Al From, Head DLC has said We are proud of both our

Candidates. Hilary and Obama.

[jackson_dem]

15. That spoke volumes. It was all but a DLC endorsement of Obama and Hillary

[cali]

9. and you know that DLC "haters" love Obama, just how?

You don't. Simply more shit you pulled out of your rear for stupid flamebait purposes.

[Occam Bandage]

10. I don't mind the DLC. Hillary holds a leadership chair in the DLC. Edwards was a leader in their

New Democrat coalition; he's since swung to the left. Obama clearly has few problems with them, if any. Most of the DLC hate I've seen around here comes from Kooch and Edwards supporters.

[wyldwolf]

11. I'll start a checklist

welfare reform: DLC - yes. Obama - yes
free market economics: DLC - yes. Obama - yes
private investment accounts to compliment social security: DLC - yes. Obama - yes.
the Democratic party must make a turn to the right away from the post 1960s social upheavals: DLC - yes, Obama - yes.
believes in finding 'third ways' in classic conservative-liberal conflicts: DLC - yes. Obama - yes.
public education reforms, including merit pay for teachers: DLC - yes. Obama - yes.
public service: DLC - yes. Obama - yes.
strong military: DLC - yes. Obama - yes.

[Hippo_Tron]

13. Policy is determined by either popular will or money

Every now and then you have politicians that will take strong stances against popular will but that usually ends with them getting their asses thrown out of office.

Obama knows that change has to come from the ground up and that is why he is trying to build a movement that will pressure our representatives to govern to the left of the DLC on certain issues. If he fails to build that movement but is still elected, then yes he will likely govern as a DLCer. With Hillary, she's going to govern as a DLCer either way.

[jackson_dem]

14. What disagreements does have have with the DLC that leads you to think he would govern to the left?

[Hippo_Tron]

16. It's not about his disagreements or there lack of with the DLC

The DLC provides policies based on the premise that those policies resonate with the American People and will help Democrats get elected. Indeed they may be correct that those policies are the way to get elected.

Again, Obama is trying to build a movement that will change the electoral calculus. If young people and African Americans, two very liberal blocs, for example, start voting in significantly larger numbers then the politicians will be FORCED to govern more from the left or they will lose re-election.

Ideology and disagreements with the DLC aren't the issue. Obama is going to enact policies that will get him re-elected, just like every other politician does. Hopefully the movement that he is trying to build will force him and Congress to govern more to the left in order to get re-elected.