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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:00 AM
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Hillary: "There's a very big difference between posing for a picture with someone you don't know
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 AM by ruggerson
and having a seventeen year relationship that the newspapers in Chicago are exploring."

Senator Clinton on the Today show, dismissing the decade old meet and greet "Rezko" photo.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:08 AM
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1. Yes, there is a big difference.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:11 AM
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2. Here's what I don't get about Clinton supporters
The Clintons, both of them, are two of the most corrupt national Democratic figures of the past couple of decades. Scandal after scandal has been linked to both of them. Assuming that even just two of those scandals are true (and I'll admit that the majority of those scandals they've been linked to were made up by the Republicans), isn't that a little worse than some flimsy relationship with this Rezko guy?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:12 AM
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3. Republican attacks made for scandal. Just look at the millions spent on the special
prosecutor, and the worst thing they could find was Bill denying a blowjob.

Sorry - it doesn't matter how many fictional scandals are created.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:18 AM
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6. Isn't this Rezko thing just like Whitewater?
No evidence of any wrongdoing WHATSOEVER by Clinton or Obama in either one of their "scandals." Yet both scandals pretty much boiled down to the fact that both had questionable relationships with some sleazeballs.

Why do the Clinton supporters conveniently forget this all the time when discussing Rezko? Again, not implying that Senator Clinton did a single thing wrong in Whitewater (she was cleared of any wrongdoing), but there is zero evidence that Obama did anything wrong either.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:21 AM
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8. I don't know. I do know Whitewater was investigated and there was no wrong doing.
I don't know if that's true of Rezko or not. It may well be there's nothing wrong at all.

I have never brought up Rezko, and don't care to. My only comments on the matter have been to say that there's a big difference between bing involved with someone for 17 years and having a photo taken with the same person.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:25 AM
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11. That's fair enough
I wish more Clinton supporters were like you. :)

I am an Obama supporter (and I really need to figure out how to change my avatar from "I voted" to some sort of Obama one) and I'm starting to feel like I'm sure the Clinton supporters felt during the '90s when Whitewater kept dogging them. Like Obama is being treated ridiculously unfairly by those with an agenda against him.

I wish more Clinton supporters going after Obama for this Rezko thing would remember how unfair the Whitewater thing was for the then-First Lady and the President.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:28 AM
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12. I think the bickering on GD:P increases our antipathy but doesn't do a lot to
enlighten or build unity.

It's the story of internet chats and boards all over. We fall into trying to win arguments rather than have discourse.

I appreciate you asking a civil question and accepting my answer (whether you agree with it or not).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:22 AM
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9. While there were many many completely unfounded smears,
there were and are many scandals at least as convincing as the Rezko one. There WERE major problems with the 1996 campaign funding, there were questions on the Rose Law firm issues and the cattle futures. Just because neither was indicted does not mean there were no improprieties. There is not Obama could be indicted on here either.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:30 AM
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13. Tens of millions of dollars and the full force of the federal government turned up nothing
but denying a blowjob.

I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to hold the Clintons to anything more than was found after that.

And it may well be a similar investigation would turn up nothing on Obama. I don't know.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:15 AM
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4. Here's an answer from a Clinton supporter.
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:16 AM by seasonedblue
Bill and Hillary are probably the most investigated politicians in recent history. Bob Barr's multi-million dollar corrupt investigation was the culmination of years of smears and slander against them that started in Arkansas. It led to an innocent woman being prosecuted and jailed, but nothing else.

Bill Clinton lied about an extramarital blowjob, what man wouldn't I'd like to know. Bill Clinton was impeached but not convicted because he lied about an extramarital blowjob, now if that isn't enough penance, I don't know what is.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:43 AM
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18. Considering how 'new' to the political 'scene' Obama is...
I'd say it's even more troubling. I mean, really....he's barely a senator, and he's already involved with a scandal? I could somewhat expect accusations about the Clintons since they've been in politics for a long, long time, but a 3 year senator?

Makes me wonder what he would be like 10, 20, years down the road....
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:48 AM
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19. It's the lying that is at issue...
BO tried to pass it off as just a five-hour indiscretion.

I have no illusions about the corruption rampant in politics--I do, however, have a real problem with a guy acting if he's somehow different or outside of the usual political cronyism.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:50 AM
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22. here's what I don't get about 'progressives' and republicans
Millions of tax payer's dollars were spent investigating said scandals and they didn't get jack. Yet, these two groups continue to push the 'corrupt' meme.

If the most ivestigated couple in history only has a purgery charge for a consensual affair on the record, the two are pretty clean.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:16 AM
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5. Yup. Like Bush saying Ken Lay donated to Ann Richards - MSM trying hard
But Obama didn't just do a photo op, he actually did favors for the guy:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/425305,CST-NWS-obama13.article
New Kenwood LLC also got letters of support from Obama, who represented a nearby Senate district.

"I am writing in support of the New Kenwood LLC's proposal to build a ninety-seven unit apartment building at 48th and Cottage Grove for senior citizens,'' Obama wrote in separate letters, each dated Oct. 28, 1998, to city and state housing officials. "This project will provide much needed housing for Fourth Ward citizens.''

Barack Obama backed the effort by Tony Rezko and Allison Davis - Rezko's partner and Obama's former boss - to win taxpayer funds to build the Cottage View Terrace apartments.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:21 AM
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7. A photo or a 17 year relationship. Hmmm What to think? What to think?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:23 AM
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10. or having a 17 year relationship of taking money from
Norman Hsu who is sitting in jail


or taking money and then pardoning Mark Rich


Do the Clintons really want to go down this road?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:32 AM
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14. Going by the Obamites shallow logic, JFK was a Clinton cronie
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:53 AM
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23. Going by the Obamaites logic, Karl Rove is an Obama cronie. Photo:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:38 AM
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15. Anybody with an ounce of common sense
knows fully well that presidents and first ladies pose with hundreds of people who they don't know. Rezko was a Democratic contributor and must have attended some event where the Clintons were also in attendance. There's a slew of pics of presidents standing next to questionable characters. What's the big deal?

On the other hand, Obama's relationship with Rezko lasted quite a few years. I don't think that he was aware of Rezko's trail of corruption, but the manner in which he purchased his home and a parcel of land next to it do raise some eyebrows.

Regardless, Hillary made that remark only after Obama's cheap shot about her sitting on the board of Wal-Mart.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:39 AM
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16. I wonder if she remembers cashing his check?
Those photo-ops aren't free, after all.

Meh. Nevermind.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:42 AM
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17. Really? That's what you wonder about? Wow...Deep thoughts
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:50 AM
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21. Is there something illegal about accepting a donation?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:49 AM
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20. The operative word is *POSING* as it fully explains what The Clintons do JUST to get elected. eom.
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