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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:59 AM
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Jon Stewart was great. How the media reported on Romney and B. Clinton
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 01:16 AM by question everything
"eruption in anger" and then showed the actual clips where it was clear that both of them just disagreed with the reporter, that there was no anger or "eruption."

Of course, I did not think that Hillary was angry during the New Hampshire or the South Caroline debate but even on DU, when someone does not speak in a quiet modulated voice, this someone is angry.

Frankly, when people do raise their voices and become animated, this means that they care about the issues.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:01 AM
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1. I don't watch that show, that's a scab show.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:05 AM
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3. So you would rather have so many people who work there
be out of work?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:15 AM
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5. I'd rather have my writers back.
Crossing a picket line is wrong. What don't you understand about that?
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:28 AM
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7. labor isn't unconditionally right
and things aren't always black and white

I always have and always will initially respect a picket line, but that decision *will be revisited as soon as I have more information about what is happening.
Not all lines deserve the same treatment.

Not that it matters, but I say this as somebody who was raised in a union family, has gladly been in multiple unions, and has actively supported numerous strikes.

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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:35 AM
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9. We Need Jon Stewart
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 01:38 AM by neutron
I respect the strike, but Stewart is the one guy who doesn't
sell out.
Keith Olbermann has been a shocker. The guy has lost it.
Dan Abrams has to report the truth after Olbermann's mincemeat.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:20 AM
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6. He's using writers?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:30 AM
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8. I know the writers are still on strike against the company that owns the show-
And that's enough for me. Hey man, this is killing me, I love Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, I think they are important voices. But until it ends, I can't cross the line and watch.

For me, it's the most basic part of being a Dem.

And really, I'm not trying to be an ass about it. To each his own.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:00 AM
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10. He'd be a "scab" if he hired in new writers. Not if he went it alone.
Are you saying Jay Leno and Conan O'Brian are also "scabs"? What a ridiculous premise. What a ridiculous and insulting premise. These people support their writers.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:08 AM
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11. it's not *that out of the ordinary to call him and his crew scabs
though I don't agree with that assessment.

I'm curious... does anybody know if the writers union consulted with the other involved unions before the strike?

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Union scabbing

The concept of union scabbing refers to any circumstance in which union workers, who normally might be expected to honor picket lines established by fellow working folk during a strike, are inclined or compelled to cross those picket lines or, in some manner, otherwise engage in workplace activity which may prove injurious to the strike.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_action#Scabs
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:47 AM
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13. I could see that distinction, but to me scabs are those who intentionally and purposely...
...snub the strikers to get a bit of money in their pockets. People, for instance, like those guys who came out of state in SF to pick up the garbage at a premium to keep the whole city functioning.

John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Jay Leno, and Conan O'Brian are doing nothing of the sort (nor is David Letterman as far as I understand that situation). Indeed, my favorite of them is Conan O'Brian who is wearing a beard in solidarity with the strikers, and who mentions them regularly. Stephen Colbert recently showed all of his writers on TV in support of them, etc.

It's just completely repulsive to call these guys scabs, even if, technically it may be right on a vague and weak definition. It's about snubbing the strikers, not supporting them while still earning your paycheck.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:28 PM
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16. I agree
My personal view is the only "scabs" are the people that replace those who are on the lines.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:19 PM
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17. This is true. We have to remember that they all started as comedian
themselves, so it is not as if they don't know how to write funny lines.

Same for Bill Maher.

He was on Leno two weeks ago and both of them disagreed with viewers who said that they were just as good as with the writers. No, they said, we need the interaction with other writers to create our lines. There is nothing funny being in an empty room all by ourselves.

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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:32 AM
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12. It is NOT a scab show. Stewart and Colbert don't own their shows the
way Letterman owns his, so they couldn't make separate deals with the WGA.

However, their own union contract specifies no sympathy strikes, so as I understand it they got special waivers from the WGA and returned to the air, sans writers, with the WGA's blessing.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:03 AM
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2. Thanks.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:09 AM
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4. TDS and CR have done everything to show
the are supporting their writers.for goodnss sake, samantha bee is gonna have another mouth to feed. and considering the stupidity of the teevee gnews, we need them to educate the stupid masses. somebody was to call the teevee gnews out.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 04:49 AM
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14. So anyway I saw this tonight, it was awesome. And so true.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:34 AM
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15. I know, I thought I saw the wrong clip of Bubba's "outburst." He wasn't angry. nt
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