WHO'S DISTORTING THE FACTS?

[William769]

Press release.

Senator Obama often says that his campaign is about the "politics of hope" and talks about how he isn’t running to tear anyone down. It would be nice if that were true but unfortunately, it's not. For months, Senator Obama and his campaign have engaged in the very kind of political kneecapping and distortion that they now purport to detest. That's not change you can believe in.

SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED HILLARY SAID NAFTA WAS A 'BOON' TO THE ECONOMY LAST YEAR. At the last debate, Sen. Obama said "And it is absolutely true that NAFTA was a mistake. I know that Hillary on occasion has said -- just last year said this was a boon to the economy." Sen. Obama and his campaign have made the claim repeatedly, even though it is well established that she never said it. < Fact Hub>

THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN FALSELY CLAIMED THAT BILL CLINTON GAVE A PAID SPEECH ABROAD ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11. Actually, he was attending a 9/11 memorial service in New Jersey. < TPM Election Central>

SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMS HE 'NEVER SAID THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO GO AHEAD AND GET SINGLE PAYER' HEALTH CARE. There is video from a campaign appearance in 2003 that shows him doing just that. < WSJ ; Fact Hub >

THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN FALSELY CLAIMED HILLARY HAD A 20 YEAR PLAN TO BECOME PRESIDENT. This is a widely discredited claim from an anti-Hillary book. < TPM Election Central>

SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED THAT HE DOESN'T TAKE MONEY FROM SPECIAL INTERESTS. Obama told the Culinary Workers, "The time has come to tell all the fat cats and the special interests in Washington that their money and their influence don't speak louder than our collective voices. They don't own our government. We do, and we're here to take it back. Those special interests they didn't fund my campaign they will not run my White House and they will not drown out the voices of the American people, working people when I'm President of the United States of America." In fact, Sen. Obama has taken hundreds of thousands of dollars from insurance industry, the banking industry, and others.

OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED THAT HILLARY SAID 'TOUGH AND DIRECT DIPLOMACY' WAS 'NAÏVE AND IRRESPONSIBLE.' Actually, Hillary said that she would not pre-commit to personal meetings with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea in the first year of her presidency. She also explicitly promised "a very vigorous diplomatic effort" with all nations, including Iraq.

OBAMA CLAIMS 'NO ONE HAD AN INKLING' THAT REZKO HAD LEGAL AND ETHICAL TROUBLES DURING THE

COURSE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. Actually, prior to his controversial land deals, prior to land deal, news reports clearly indicated Rezko's troubles, including involvement in kickback scheme. < Fact Hub >

SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED THAT HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON SAID HE 'WASN'T OPPOSED TO THE WAR FROM THE START.' Neither Hillary or Bill Clinton has ever said that. They have noted his quotes and record after his speech opposing the war in 2002. < Fact Hub >

SEN. OBAMA CLAIMS HE HAS A 'UNIVERSAL' HEALTH CARE PLAN. Top health care experts agree that his plan leaves 15 million people out. < Fact Hub>

SEN. OBAMA DENIED THAT THE CO-CHAIR OF HIS NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN WAS A PHARMACEUTICAL LOBBYIST. His New Hampshire co-chair, Jim Demers, was a pharmaceutical lobbyist. < The Page>

SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED THAT HILLARY COULD ORDER THE RELEASE OF ALL HER WHITE HOUSE RECORDS. The process is actually controlled by the National Archives. < Fact Hub>

SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED HE HAD NEVER DONE ANY FAVORS FOR REZKO. As a state senator, Barack Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting his political patron Tony Rezko's successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5472


So much for Obamas "Hope and Change". :eyes:

[Imagevision]

1. MSNBC just finished a piece on Hillary not being factual in Obama accusations...?

Guess we'll hear something further...

[William769]

2. All the links are provided.

We will see what happens.

[MethuenProgressive]

3. Obama's new slogan: 'Vote for me, and Hope I'll Change'

He once had promise, several years ago.

[polichick]

4. Both of them roll around in the mud...

And both talk a lot of bullshit rather than owning up ~ same ol' same ol'.

[Occam Bandage]

5. I trust HillaryClinton.com to give me the straight dope.

[William769]

8. Thats why links are provided.

[Occam Bandage]

12. I am sure her campaign attempted to give an accurate representation of the matter,

rather than cherry-picking the articles favorable to her position.

[William769]

13. And Obama would never do that, correct?

[Occam Bandage]

14. I'm sure he would. That's why I would not attempt to use a list off his site to convince people

that his interpretation of events was truer.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. straight dope is great. Additives can be dangerous.

of course, the kind of rolling paper is important, too. Some glues leave a bad taste

[GoldieAZ49]

22. ROTFLMAO

[ProSense]

6. Hillary still lying: "SEN. OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED HE HAD NEVER DONE ANY FAVORS FOR REZKO. "

Facts: 8 things you need to know about Obama and Rezko

[Double T]

7. Voters have started to see through BO which is why his poll numbers are in decline.

[Imagevision]

9. I trust Hillary as much as I trust Bush & Cheney... she'll never beat McCain!

[denem]

20. Bush & Chaney beat McCain

We should stand back in the GE sweet and pure and watch the Repubs drag Dems through the mud again? I want to know our candidates, whoever that is, can handle a gun.

[HeraldSquare212]

10. You'd almost wonder why they bother with a conduit at all. nt

[sunonmars]

11. Thats what you call throwing the book at him

they let him hang himself. He opened the door to it as well.

They are determined to make this stick now.

[desi]

16. Maybe Obama "pushed the wrong buttons."

"Much of the criticism has centered on two real estate deals involving Obama's South Side mansion. In the first, Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for a doctor's home, while Rezko's wife paid the doctor full price for the vacant lot next door. Then -- a few months before Rezko was indicted -- Obama bought part of that lot from Rezko's wife.

But Obama's ties with Rezko go beyond those two real estate sales and the political support, the Sun-Times found. Obama was an attorney with a small Chicago law firm -- Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland -- that helped Rezmar get more than $43 million in government funding to rehab 15 of their 30 apartment buildings for the poor

<snip>

"Obama, however, was associated with the firm for more than nine years, his staff acknowledged Sunday in an e-mail response to questions submitted March 14 by the Sun-Times. They didn't say what deals he worked on -- or how much work he did.

"The senator, relatively inexperienced in this kind of work, was assigned to tasks appropriate for a junior lawyer,'' according to an e-mail from Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. "These tasks would have included reviewing documents, collecting corporate organizational documents, and drafting corporate resolutions.''

In fact, Gibbs wrote, "Senator Obama does not remember having conversations with Tony Rezko about properties that he owned or any specific issues related to those properties.''" <----- "Obama does not remember" How Reaganesqe LOLOL

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article#

[desi]

17. K&R

for no more "forgetful" Raygun worshiping empty suits.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

18. You're just bitter because you haven't gotten the BAM

[William769]

19. Actually I saw Bam recently in Tampa

Has a great Sports car And a hottie of a wife (if your into that)!

[AngryAmish]

21. Whose caps lock button is stuck?

[OneBlueSky]

23. he said/she said, and the campaign is in the sewer . . . a pox on both their houses . . . n/t

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