Obama on Dodd's filibuster

[ProSense]

Obama Joins Dodd Filibuster of FISA Telecom Amnesty

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
Posted on Tue Oct 23, 2007

Senator Obama has serious concerns about many provisions in this bill, especially the provision on giving retroactive immunity to the telephone companies. He is hopeful that this bill can be improved by the Senate Judiciary Committee. But if the bill comes to the Senate floor in its current form, he would support a filibuster of it.

Obama steps up. Senator Clinton?

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Obama’s Statement on Dodd and Filibuster

By: Jane Hamsher Monday December 17

I contacted the Clinton, Edwards and Obama campaigns last night to ask them if they had statements on Dodd's filibuster against retroactive immunity today. So far the only one to get back to me with one is Obama:

Senator Obama unequivocally opposes giving retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies and has cosponsored Senator Dodd's efforts to remove that provision from the FISA bill. Granting such immunity undermines the constitutional protections Americans trust the Congress to protect. Senator Obama supports a filibuster of this bill, and strongly urges others to do the same. It's not clear whether he can return for the vote, but under the Senate rules, the side trying to end a filibuster must produce 60 votes to cut off debate. Whether he is present for the vote for not, Senator Obama will not be among those voting to end the filibuster."

Both the Edwards and Clinton campaigns said they are working on statements.

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Edwards on Dodd's filibuster

[Blarch]

1. Great.

where does Hillary stand ?

[Missy M]

2. The last line of the post said...

both Hillary and Edwards were preparing their statements. I don't think it should much matter who got the statement out first, it isn't a horse race.

[tyne]

3. Why

is this being posted when it was over a month ago?

[ProSense]

4. A lot of things posted here are FYI and for clarification. n/t

[gateley]

12. It's about the potential CURRENT filibuster. In fact, they're on the floor NOW. nt

[Maribelle]

7. October 23rd 2007 Hillary said she would support the filibuster

Hillary haters are merely trying to make her look bad

[ProSense]

8. "Hillary haters are merely trying to make her look bad" Really?

How, by posting that Obama supports it?

You're free to start a thread on Hillary, here's the link.

[rinsd]

11. You left in quotes putting doubts as to her position.

You went to the trouble to find out Edward's position.

Very dishonest.

[ProSense]

14. "You went to the trouble to find out Edward's position. Very dishonest."

Maybe I was making a point that had nothing to do with Hillary.

Now, stop whining and go start that Hillary thread!

[rinsd]

20. So why include this line "Obama steps up. Senator Clinton?" in the first blurb?

And you'll notice other posters got the false impression you were shooting for.

Now I get to show them how dishonest you are.

[ProSense]

23. Ask the author of the piece. My thinking is that it was written before Hillary issued her statement.

Obama and Clinton.

What do you think?

[rinsd]

27. Yes and that author later gave this update

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/10/23/211938/22

So why did you leave the impression that Hillary was nowhere to be found on this issue?

If it was just about Obama, why did you include the Edwards link?

Well at least now you've been exposed.

[ProSense]

28. Here, to save you (and me) from a circular (and needlessly lengthy) discussion, let me direct you to

one of my previous responses.

[vi5]

5. Will he fly back to help in the fillibuster?

Or is campaigning more important?

Same goes for Hillary. Strongly worded statements and press releases aren't enough.

[redqueen]

17. Good question. Last time around I think it was only Dodd up there fighting.

[rinsd]

22. Agreed.

Being there is more important than press releases.

[jwirr]

6. Good.

[beachmom]

9. K & R. Good for Obama. n/t

[avaistheone1]

10. Kudos to Obama and Edwards for supporting Dodd on filibuster

[gateley]

13. What does this mean?

"Whether he is present for the vote for not, Senator Obama will not be among those voting to end the filibuster."

Are they able to vote in absentia?

[mopinko]

15. no, they just have to not vote for cloture.

sort of like voting present when your friends ask you to.

[gateley]

16. Thanks, and....

:rofl:

[mopinko]

26. i dunno, but

nancy is a great progressive, and a former chicagoan. like mike malloy, she was sent packing from chicago talk radio for her refusal to buckle. she is someone who has the nerve to run in michigan on a platform of protecting the environment, and getting the us carmakers off their gas guzzling asses.
she ran for senate before she left chicago, but had the bad timing to run in a crowded primary against BO. our loss is michigans gain, i hope.

[gateley]

18. OT -- Did Randi Rhodes get the number of on-line votes for Nancy Skinner

that she wanted yesterday? I voted (although I shamefully admit I don't know who Nancy is.)

[1776Forever]

19. Yes! Where is Hill on this? Time to step up - Proud of Dodd & Obama!

:applause: Let's go all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rinsd]

21. Hillary supported Dodd's filibuster the same day as Obama

Q: Can you discuss your position on the reauthorization of the FISA bill?

HRC: I am troubled by the concerns that have been raised by the recent legislation reported out of the Intelligence Committee. I haven't seen it so I can't express an opinion about it. But I don't trust the Bush Administration with our civil rights and liberties. So I'm going to study it very hard. As matters stand now, I could not support it and I would support a filibuster absent additional information coming forward that would convince me differently.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/hillary_says_she_would_support_filibuster_of_current_bill.php

The OP deliberately left that out to create a false impression.

I am sorry you had to deal with disinfo.

[cooolandrew]

24. Yep, so can we ease down on the " Reaganite" thing. Fair nuff was Edwards first though.

[FrenchieCat]

25. Tue Oct 23, 2007 is the date for Obama.

telling for the rest.

[rinsd]

29. Oct 23rd is also the date for Hillary Clinton

Its omission is telling about the OP.