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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:26 AM
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The best outcome for all concerned, (even Obama and Hillary)...
is for John Edwards to win in South Carolina.

Maybe then, they (Bill and Hillary in particular), will get the message that this hosepipe of negativity is getting us all nowhere.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:28 AM
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1. Given that Obama kinda has to win SC, I'd say that's actually a bad outcome for him. n/t
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:32 AM
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3. Actually, that's not true...
If Barack gets second by a small margin, it will be an equal delegate win, he will still receive momentum, Hillary's spin machine can't use the "AA vote" as an excuse for her failure, AND John pulls Hillary votes through the convention (which works in Obama's favor).

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:32 AM
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2. That is SOOOO off-script--the powers that be will never allow it
Please realize we are not a democracy anymore. We are a mediacracy--and those brainless scandal mongers want nothing but blood and conflict and sex. Not rational working together to solve problems. Where's the ratings in that?
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM
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4. Are you kidding?
The shock factor alone would send ratings through the roof!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:37 AM
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5. sure WE know that--those f***kers are following a different playbook
and they don't listen to reason--just Satan.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:43 AM
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6. It's times like this when I thank God, so to speak, that I got into the profession.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:44 AM by SteppingRazor
Pardon me for a moment. I have to go sacrifice a goat to the Dark Lord. :evilgrin:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:54 AM
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8. I'm in the profession too--and Dark Lord is...sad but just about right.
I remember doing a piece on Black Box voting when the issue was first being uncovered. I did the research, so I know the bit about Ohio's Republican Campaign Chief, Wally Odell, "coicidentally" the owner of Diebold, said he would deliver Ohio to Georg Bush. That in fact all the voting machine companies are owned by partisan Republicans who donate millions to the GOP. Npt a partisan comment--a plain fact.

Why didn't that little fact make it into the final broadcast version?

Well, Correspondent Guy just didn't think that partisan politics was key to the piece, and he didn't think that was worth mentioning. (direct quote.)


Let me hand you the polished obsidian crescent knife, for your offering--I keep thinking I can effect things somehow working within the system. Heh. Til then, I'm a goat-stabbing fool.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:56 AM
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9. What can I say? In one, awful way, I like journalism for the same reason I like politics...
I'm enamored of the filth of it all. :evilgrin:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:02 AM
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11. yep--it's a dirty job
but, like a Tarrantino movie or a car crash, fascinating to watch and difficult to look away.

Now, if we could just get the content right...

love your comment, BTW--I guess you can't quit journalism anymore than you can quit a haunting love affair. It hurts, but you can't force yourself to forget it ("enamored of the filth of it all" is so much more poetic!)

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:48 AM
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7. It will be a humiliation
for Edwards to do any less than First Place in South Carolina. He boasts at every turn at the microphone how he was born in South Carolina, raised in North Carolina and a son of a millworker.

Quite an embarrassing moment if he loose. Pals with Obama hurt him.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:01 AM
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10. Bullshit. If he were Black, then I might could agree with you.
It amazes me that people ignore the facts. The fact that John is a native son in South Carolina can hardly offset the fact that he isn't Black in a state where over 50% of Democratic primary voters are African American.
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