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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 AM
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Obama said oops on 6 state Senate votes
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:10 AM by ccpup
...

On June 11, 2002, Obama's vote sparked a confrontation after he joined Republicans to block Democrats trying to override a veto by GOP Gov. George Ryan of a $2-million allotment for the west Chicago child welfare office.

Shortly afterward, Obama chastised Republicans for their "sanctimony" in claiming that only they had the mettle to make tough choices in a tight budget year. And he called for "responsible budgeting."

A fellow Democrat suddenly seethed with anger. "You got a lot of nerve to talk about being responsible," said Sen. Rickey Hendon, accusing Obama of voting to close the child welfare office.

Obama replied right away. "I understand Sen. Hendon's anger. . . . I was not aware that I had voted no on that last -- last piece of legislation," he said.

Obama asked that the record reflect that he meant to vote yes. Then he requested that Hendon "ask me about a vote before he names me on the floor."
...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,1,7079399.story

(edited to add content that wasn't already excerpted in an earlier Post by another Poster)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:10 AM
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1. .00125% of the time.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 AM by Bleachers7
:wow:
The Clinton supporters were pathetic before, they're getting embarrassing
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. It's a fuckin' button, was he high? orwhat?
"I meant to vote "yes". What a crock of shit.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:14 AM
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7. Have you ever had a car accident?
Have you ever turned the hot water too high in the shower?
Have you ever gone to the wrong channel on the remote?
Have you ever put the car in neutral instead of drive or reverse?

C'mon Mr. Perfect.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. No,No, and no.
It's a button, there are only three. C'mon.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. And you've never mispelled anything on DU either right?
:eyes:

It's .00125% occuronces and he got to correct them.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. Often, but I was note elected to serve as a state speller.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #21
27. He wasn't elected to be the most accurate button pusher.
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:25 AM by Bleachers7
You guys are embarrassing yourselves.

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #27
34. He wasn't elected to cast votes? Accurate votes?
I think he was, And who exactly are "you guys"? Real progressive Democrats, such as myself who would prefer not to nominate either,(or any), of the corporate hacks currently in the race? Or do you have some other "guys" in mind?????
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #34
37. "Real progressive democrats" aren't pro-war
like you and your candidate.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #37
39. "MY" candidate????Kucinich is pro war??
You appear to be pushing the wrong button, like YOUR candidate.
Fuck BHO...Fuck HRC...may they battle to a deadlocked convention.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #39
47. _
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:54 AM by Bleachers7
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #47
56. What's the matter? Rat got your tongue?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #56
59. Trying to be nice
;)
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:09 AM
Response to Reply #59
60. Remember, just because one is not for Obama, doesn't mean they are for Hilary...Or John.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #18
71. There aren't "do-overs" as president.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #7
25. Lame!!!!!
There is NO excuse for this irresponsibility! Ever! I do NOT trust this f*cking guy to be President! EVER!!!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #25
28. OK Mr. Perfect
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #7
74. Hmm yes BUT
Have you ever turned the hot water too high in the shower? I burned my balls, but it did not affect anyone but me
Have you ever gone to the wrong channel on the remote? yes i got to watch I love Lucy, but it did not affect anyone but me
Have you ever put the car in neutral instead of drive or reverse? I actually went through a garage door once, but it did not affect anyone but me


I do not have to be perfect, neither does my candidate, BUT they better have a better reason than. OOPS.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. I like the drug-related reference. Where did that come from? Classy. n/t
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. His book.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #12
23. Thank you, Karl. I know where it came from literally. I am just impressed
by your ability to sling s--t (drug-crazed black man) in such a short post.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. Your insight is awe inspiring.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #26
30. I'm underwhelmed with yours
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #1
53. He only lies/flip-flops some of the time - make a button!
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #1
69. Uh huh
So you expect me to believe that 3,994 times he was able to hit the correct button --but mysteriously on those 6 votes --he pushed the wrong one?

Were they like --his first votes ever?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 AM
Response to Original message
2. "Correcting the record is common practice in the Illinois Legislature"
Didn't think people would read the article?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #2
11. The Clinton people are foaming at the mouth looking for something to attack Obama with.
They remind me of the infected people in "I Am Legend."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. And I'm assuming the ones here aren't even getting paid!
:eyes:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. I wouldn't assume anything.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #2
46. I HOPE people read the articles I post
it's the best way to learn more about the candidates
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 AM
Response to Original message
3. Interesting, but not highly relevant. Let's talk about voting YES for hostilities against Iraq.
Well, I suppose you'd rather not talk about that.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Let's also take about voting time and time again to fund this illegal war.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #5
10. Ah, you mean like the ENTIRE Congress save a few diehard Democrats?
Please, go ahead and talk about that.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. Yes like that.
And as a side, you have to know that if Obama was a Senator, he would have voted FOR the IWR.
You know it, he knows it.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:25 AM
Response to Reply #16
29. Because your crystal ball tells you so?
There were dissenting votes. You have no way of knowing which way he would have voted.

We do know that Edwards and Clinton voted for it; one of them has acknowledged it was a mistake, one has not.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #29
36. He himself admitted that he doesn't know....his record shows he would have
went along.If you rally believe otherwise, you are as naive as well.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #36
54. Speaking from only probabilities, you're correct. In reality, you're just guessing.
Being skeptical about your wild speculation doesn't make me naive.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #54
58. Honestly, do YOU deep down, really believe that he would have voted against the IWR?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #58
64. Deep deep down, in my heart of hearts. I don't know. And neither do you.
We can only guess.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #64
65. C'mon...
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
6. I was surprised to see David Shuster say if Obama did that
then it's disgusting.:wow: Rarely does Shuster pass such severe judgment
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. You didn't see that.
You read that.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. No, I watched Shuster say it on Morning Joe, this morning
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. Scarborough fan, I see.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #13
19. You just said in another thread that you didn't see it.
The truth is so hard.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #19
67. Link please
Damn you Obama supporters sure are comprehension challenged
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #13
22. Shuster is an Edwards lover.
I'm not surprised at all.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #13
38. Now if only I could convince you that you did not really
see what you saw on THAT Sunday :rofl:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #38
68. Hey Desi. I hear Eli has a date with Jessica Simpson, coincidently
on the same day as the Super Bowl.

Isn't that sweet?:P
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #68
77. Get out!
Did the Giants make a trade for Bono and Jessica is the "player" to be named later? Bono would break Eli's legs and he already has enough trouble running the ball. If you can call what Eli does running. lol

Giants!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #77
78. Just funnin with you. Idiot fans blamed her for Romo's loss
Since I accused you of stalking Brady and pushing him in the snow

I thought it was time for Jessica to jinx Eli and throw him off his game
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #78
79. I knew you were messin' with me lol
I thought it was hilarious that the next time they were at home somebody had a Jessica double in the stands.
I have no idea what was going on but I glanced at the TV and there they were, Jessica and Tony amid some scandal no doubt. I know they best leave Eli alone.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:23 AM
Response to Original message
24. I watched United States Senators change their votes on CSPAN
when they voted the wrong way--and that's VERBAL. Sometimes it's a deal-making scheme or they want to see how the votes go, but other times they aren't fully clear on what they're voting for or why (those multiple amendments can be confusing), and their aides or fellow Senators probably say something afterward. They make hundreds and hundreds of votes a year, and sometimes they screw up--as long as they catch it and correct it, it's no biggie.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #24
31. Oh and--I've pressed wrong buttons on everything from hospital beds
and IV pumps to television camera control boards in my various lines of work. It's a "whoops" and a correction.
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #24
32. Exactly, wienerdoggie, about Senators changing their votes. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:30 AM by protect our future
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:28 AM
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33. Well now we know why he voted present so many damned times!
He doesn't know what the hell he voting on! Or does he?
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #33
35. self-deleted
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:31 AM by protect our future
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #33
40. Think what a disaster to the planet an Obama would be.
"Quick, call China, I pressed the WRONG BUTTON! I pressed the WRONG BUTTON!!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4177958#4178320
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #40
42. ROFLMAO!
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #42
45. Bluebear cracked me up with that last night.
Did you know that Obama voted "present" with a coalition? The "coalition" consisted of one state legislator....OBAMA!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #45
49. Thanks for making my day desi!
:hi:
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #49
55. Glad to help Billy
Hope all is well with your machine now. I missed your wit yesterday! Incoming in a few, you're gonna love this as much as Obama loves Repukes and vice versa.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:47 AM
Response to Original message
41. they were roasting Obama on the idiocy of this on MSNBC this morning.nt.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #41
61. so? how many people watch msnbc in the morning?
about 13 million watch abc,nbc,and cbs morning shows each morning....25 million people watch the big three nightly news....
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:50 AM
Response to Original message
43. This pathetic half-witted non-issue about Obama brought to you by...
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:53 AM by zulchzulu


Philanderers International
www.philanderers.com/

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #43
52. How many mistakes does that represent.
:rofl:
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:51 AM
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44. one can spin it any way you like
but a headline with the words "Obama" and "oops" in it in a major newspaper two weeks before their Super Tuesday Primary is not good.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #44
50. Yes, it will feed the ravenous on DU
The rest of the world cares about how they're going to survive the recession, get their kids home from Hillary's and John's war in Iraq, get heat for the winter.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #50
57. and, at a time when they may be tuning in to decide who to vote for
-- if they do, in fact, vote -- on Primary Day, the have Rezko and Oops in their major newspaper to help inform them.

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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #50
75. How exactly is Bam-Bam solving these problems.
I hear a lot of jawing, but no real differences in him and Hillary's positions. Please point out the differences, if you can find any.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:53 AM
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48. Did I accidentally take a stand?
Woops, I mean to vote "Present."
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:56 AM
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51. When "No" means "Yes" - the Obama story
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:11 AM by robbedvoter

"I WASN'T AWARE THAT I VOTED NO"



I want a button saying that...Although I won't have much use for it by next week.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:15 AM
Original message
ROFL
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #51
66. I like it. How's this: When tearing up is a sign of strength: Hillary's Tale.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #51
72. lol!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:13 AM
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62. "I was not aware that I had voted no" - Barack "Mr Responsibility" Obama
...
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Fermezlabush Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 10:15 AM
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63. Honey, if you're at the door, who's this in my bed?" "I wasn't aware that I voted "NO"
:rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 11:18 AM
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70. Now THIS is Fake Outrage at the core.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #70
73. Obama's record can't be questioned. Only Edwards and Hillary's can
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 12:58 PM
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76. If we trust him with our vote -
shouldn't we expect him to properly cast his vote? Seems pretty basic to me.
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