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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:34 AM Original message |
McClurkin |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. Reagan. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. Rezko. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Rezko |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. Rezko. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. DOMA nt |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. oohhh...a gay community marginalizing thread! nt. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Really? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. McClurkin is only funny to Obama supporters. nt. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Thank you for your concern. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. thank you for your lack. nt. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Mine is genuine. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. it is evident your lack of concern is genuine. I haven't accused you of actually caring. nt. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Echo! |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Did you see that the OP has started multiple threads like this? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. So its spam? nt. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Sigh |
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jkshaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. It's a joke. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
110. lmao nt. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
6. K/L |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. IWR |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
15. Obama's nominee for Surgeon General? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
19. Notice how no one still cares |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yeah, you just keep thinking that if it keeps you warm at night. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. It actually does |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Obamanaut "McClurkin Ex-Gay Talking Point" #23 |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. prove me wrong |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Labeling it a "talking point" does not make it untrue. Although McClurkin is a huge issue on DU, |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Pay attention to the real GLBT media |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. "Real" undoubtedly being defined as "among the minority that care about McClurkin." |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Did I say people weren't endorsing him or editorializing in his favor? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. And in none of those |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. But is is brought up, meaning that it is still an issue. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. You found three instances of McClurkin being dismissed as irrelevant. Very convincing. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Or everyone has realized that Obama is out of touch with GLBT Americans |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. All the polling I've seen shows Obama perceived as a leader on GLBT issues |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #69 |
92. There are no "leaders" in the way you are suggesting. We're not sheep. |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
87. oops |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
86. Links???? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #86 |
97. See post #49 n/t |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
48. The black LGBT bloggers certainly haven't ignored it |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. While not meaning to offend the noble profession of blogging, |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Do you think those bloggers are confined to the internets? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Senator Obama apparently thinks he doesn't need GLBT votes, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I see no evidence of that. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. A smile and a wave does not make a friend n/t |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. But he has an Obama Pride page |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. So why does he have the page, if not because he wants GLBT people to vote for him? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. He wants GLBT people to vote for him |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. That post was only challenging "apparently thinks he doesn't need GLBT votes." |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #80 |
99. I don't doubt that he wants GLBT votes and all the other votes he can get |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. And he so deeply cares about HIV/AIDS... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Are you suggesting Obama explicitly does not care about HIV/AIDS among gays? How will you |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
103. Obama's concern about gays or AIDS is like a day after Christmas sale - priced to sell. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. He so deeply cares about bigotry |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. St. Obama the second coming |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Oh, sure they're real people. An extraordinarily small number of real people, who do not |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Keep marginalizing us. We're used to it. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Oh, I'm not marginalizing GLBTs. Quite the opposite, in fact. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Arrogant and condescending much? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. But not incorrect. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. You don't know jack shit about the GLBT community |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Then you don't know jack shit about me. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. The fact that most politicians and their supporters don't give a shit. is.. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Maybe mainstream gay groups and advocates have realized that Obama doesn't really care |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. actually yes it does |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. What is there to prefer? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Gays are making it clear - to each other. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Ignoring the fact that you're proposing insular self-marginalization, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Just watch how we vote and where we put our money. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I am. It doesn't support your theory. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Silly. Not one of those links shows how gays are voting or giving $. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Well, no exit polls have been done. The most recent poll I've seen shows Clinton with 63%, |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:10 AM Response to Reply #50 |
90. Let me assure you, the SF gay community is aware. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Most of us have better things to do than discuss the failings of Senator Obama |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Or, rather, it means that very few care about one instance of pandering |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Or that very few of us care to discuss one pathetic instance of pandering |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Which is a neat little theory, as it conveniently dismisses any need for evidence. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. And you may think nobody cares, but you are not the GLBT community either |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. No, but I'm not relying on a generalization of my own feelings here. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. You don't know a thing about the GLBT community. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. And you presume to speak for GLBT people as a group? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Not at all. Just telling you that's how it is. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Not from what I've seen. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Doesn't surprise me. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. The fact remains |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
62. "a few fringe activists" - - another assholish comment |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
84. Be quiet. You don't represent the LGBT community you lunatic. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Pipe down, you anarchist freak. What do you know about mainstream gays & lesbians? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:08 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Apparently nothing. I'm marginal and irrelevant. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
107. prove me wrong |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. "keyboard commandos" - assholish comment #2. Ciao, have a great life |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
85. This is an excellent point -- is there documentation? nt |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
91. You would be naive to assume that "mainstream" gay groups don't care about McClurkin or Caldwell. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
102. "a few fringe activists on DU?" |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
109. CBS news good enough for you? |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. present |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
47. McLovin |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
57. Kirbyjohn Caldwell |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
66. Funny...all the other one-liner threads sank like stones... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #66 |
77. You realize that we are the fringe, right? |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
93. A hit and run post to stir up the pot and rub salt in old wounds? |
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FredScuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. "stir up the pot and rub salt in old wounds"? |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. Seems blatantly disruptive, don't you think? |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
94. Norman Hsu |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
96. this looks like it turned out to be a real funny joke. nt. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
98. Obama's biggest BIGOT! Go figure. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Oh he might not be Obama's biggest bigot. There's still Bush's "spiritual advisor" |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Nice fact-checking. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
100. Monica Monica. Vince Foster. FBI files. Travel Office. Monica Monica Whitewatergate. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. VINCE FOSTER? Jeezum crow, what, did Hillary murder him? |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
106. The essence of Obama. Insincere, Irresponsible & Unsavory. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
112. McDougal. |
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