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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:43 PM
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Californians--vote NO on 57 and 58
The most important thing tomorrow is STOPPING Arnold from letting his Wall Street Buddies fleece us for an additional 30 billion!

NO ON 57 AND 58!
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:46 PM
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1. Don't think so. Both the SF Chronicle and SJ Merc were yes on 57 and 58
These are very liberal papers.

They were also both yes on 55 and 56.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:49 PM
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2. The state is bankrupt
The other choice is to cut government services to balance the budget.

I would let the people of California make their choice tomorrow. They are the ones that will have to live the consequences of their vote.

Personalizing an issue such as this just because you don't like the Governor is not a very smart way to vote.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:09 PM
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4. no
the other choice is to raise taxes to pay our expenses.

Foisting the debt onto the next generation is NOT the only possible choice.

In fact, it's a horrible choice.
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shivaji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:11 AM
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6. Raising taxes at this stage will sure ly push CA over the cliff
Businesses are running away now. If taxes go higher,
good bye jobs, hello bankruptcy.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:14 AM
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8. nonsense
fiscal responsibility is rewarded, not punished.

Using long-term bonds to solve a short-term crisis is bad policy. Arnold promised he could balance the budget. His plan was to "open the books - audit everything." Let him keep his promise.

Going into long-term debt over this is NOT the solution.
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Polemonium Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:36 AM
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10. well said, no on 57 and 58
Further, the Governator is getting all the adds for 57 and 58 paid for by big dirty money. Kind of makes you wonder why these guys are so keen to make the Governator look good. Either way, the mentality that raising taxes is somehow unamerican is rediculous. Sometimes you've got to give a little to get something in return.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:53 PM
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3. What do you guys think about voting No on 57, Yes on 58?
I heard that they are tied together, one must pass for the other to pass...but is there any reason why voting yes on 58 alone would be an unwise thing to do?

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rdfi-defi Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:54 PM
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5. no on both 57 and 58
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:07 AM
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9. Hi rdfi=defi!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:13 AM
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7. I plan to vote NO on 57 and 58
unless somebody can convince me otherwise.
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