Most ironic debate quote of the year from St. Obama

[jackson_dem]

OBAMA: But when you comb my 4,000 votes in Illinois, choose one...

(APPLAUSE)

... try to present it in the worst possible light, that does have to be answered. That does have to be answered.

EDWARDS: We've cast hundreds and hundreds of votes. What you're criticizing her for, by the way, you've done to us, which is you pick this vote and that vote out of the hundreds that we've cast.

(APPLAUSE)

OBAMA: No.

EDWARDS: And what -- all I'm saying is, what's fair is fair.

[polichick]

1. imo Obama is upset that his stay-above-the fray bubble has burst...

But it's about time ~ better now than in the general.

[Andy823]

16. You are so right

If it doesn't come out now, they will kill him in the general. If he has something that will come back on him later, it's best to find otu now before putting him in the general withoug a chance in hell of winning!

I thinkt he days of his "free ride" are over, and he doesn't like it one bit!

[AtomicKitten]

2. One vote deserving of that kind of scrutiny is the IWR which Hillary and Edwards both voted for.

[redqueen]

3. That's kind of what Edwards was referring to, I think.

The IWR has been harped on since last summer.

[jackson_dem]

And a few others like the China bill Obama attacked Edwards with again last night

Why didn't Obama mention Ted Kennedy (now there is a real enemy of the little guy! And I hear he is rich too! :sarcasm: ) voted for that bill, along with 82 other Senators and that the bill was pushed by a Democratic president?

[redqueen]

10. Yup!

Exactly!

[AtomicKitten]

7. And it should be harped on til the end of time.

The IWR was the door that opened up to torture, rendition, illegal wire-tapping, loss of habeas corpus, etc., and the hits keep coming.

I will not reward any of the dipshits who voted yes on the IWR with my vote.

[redqueen]

11. Did you not vote for Kerry/Edwards?

Is that what you're saying?

[lapfog_1]

15. Actions have consequences

the co-sponsorship of that bill or a vote "AYE" on it should disqualify you for the Presidency.

Which is why I can't support my favorite of the three, Edwards, nor can I support Hillary.

[redqueen]

22. You didn't vote for Kerry/Edwards either?

Wow...

[jackson_dem]

5. Obama decides which votes count and which don't.

When the same game is played with him he cries like a baby.

[AtomicKitten]

9. No, I decide. I will not reward any of the dipshits that voted yes on the IWR with my vote.

[redqueen]

12. If he gets the nod, the GE will be... somethin else.

He's obviously not used to playing at this level.

[OzarkDem]

31. No, he's an amateur

The GOP will chew him to pieces. He must think that having GOP'ers help write his policy agenda and fund his campaign will keep him safe, but it won't.

[redqueen]

4. Edwards knocked that one outta the park.

Heh.

[Monty__]

8. sure did

and Obama's response was "no"....?

[OzarkDem]

32. Trial lawyer

I can't wait to see those sharply honed skills go to work on GOPers in the GE and later when he moves his agenda through Congress when he's in the WH. Foreign policy should be interesting too. Oh, and dealing with the MSM as president - Edwards will be fun to watch.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

36. Wish he would've used those "sharply honed skills"

when he went up against Cheney.

[OzarkDem]

41. IIRC, he did n/t

[Cameron27]

6. I loved that quote,

and I'm not a fan of Edwards, but he put Obama's complaints into the right perspective.

[THUNDER HANDS]

13. i think it's a fair point

I would contend, however, that Obama hasn't backed away from his votes the way Edwards and Clinton have.

[GalleryGod]

17. See my #14 , Magic.

[jackson_dem]

20. That is because he was never called on his votes until last night

And his MO is to always have an "explanation" instead of, as Hillary said, ever taking responsibility for a vote he made.

[GalleryGod]

42. Well...as Phillip Seymour Hoffman says in "Charlie Wilson's War"

We'll see. We'll see.

Last Spring. After two days with my classes.

[GalleryGod]

14. State House Political Systems 101

In the N.J. Legislature a "present" vote is accepted strategy when a bill is headed BACK to Committee for "more fine tuning"


Read it. Believe it.

[Nailzberg]

34. State House Politics 101 in IL

Present votes in Springfield indicate to the Governor a bill requiring fine tuning, and he can use his amendatory veto to fix the bill at signing.

[GalleryGod]

38. O.K. Thanks.

Philly Cheese steaks for EVERYbody! :grouphug: You low-carb folks hafta take your chances,though.

[cali]

18. Let's talk

about St John of the Hedge Fund's votes. I can't think of why he'd go on this tangent. Oh, wait a minute, I can.

[jackson_dem]

23. Obama can't cry about his opponents turning the tables and playing his little game on them

The fucker has used it to swiftboat Edwards for a year and also used it against Hillary. Now Hillary turns the tables and he is crying like a toddler who just had his ice cream stolen from him. :eyes:

[Andy823]

40. Yep

But we all know that the "rules" are that nobody can attack the great Obama, but he can attach everyone else! When is't turned on him, he has to cry foul, and as I have already seen today, the race card is coming back out. An attack on Obama is an attack on his "race" and that's crap!

I am far from a Hillary supporter, but at the moment I would vote for her over Obama, and I think there are a lot of Edwards supports that feel the same way! Obama isn't up to the job of president, and I want to see the party take back the whitehouse, and I really don't think Obama can do that!

[Occam Bandage]

19. John Edwards trying to deflect scrutiny? Shocking.

[jackson_dem]

21. Deflecting scruntiny of Obama's record being scrutinized by Hillary?

[redqueen]

24. deleted

[jackson_dem]

25. They want to be able to distort Hillary and Edwards' records all the time

Yet they apply a different set of rules for St. Obama. Why is this even necessary? I thought the One True Candidate had a perfect voting record anyway? Right? Isn't that what we have been told for a year?

[redqueen]

27. Well the media's letting them get away with it... for now.

I wonder if *anyone* in his campaign senses a trap... if they're prepared for it, should they get called up to the Big Leagues.

[Occam Bandage]

26. Yessir. He took the opportunity

(and man, those four words sum up his entire political career) to step in and deflect previous criticism of his record. That was all he was doing there.

[jackson_dem]

28. Is Obama not ready for the big leagues or just a shameless hypocrite?

[Occam Bandage]

30. Neither. He's the next President of the United States.

Edwards, on the other hand, is a pathetic phony, and voters are seeing right through him.

[BenDavid]

29. I believe edwards has just about has his fill of obama, and he

on several occasions last night went right after obama and another time was when obama tried to explain the voting for credit card 30% interest....

I think obama's problem last night was bill clinton has gotten into obama's brain and he was gun shy so to speak and when he answered a question that was rambling hrc hit him and then edwards hit him more....

obama, seeing Bill over here :hide: seeing Bill over there:hide: and this made obama :crazy:

[OzarkDem]

35. Good analysis

I don't think Edwards is doing it to be mean and hurtful to Obama, he's just trying to keep the debate honest.

[DrFunkenstein]

33. Procedural Votes Vs. Giving Bush Green Light For War?

Let's have, as Clinton would say, a little reality break.

[durrrty libby]

37. He sure did hem and haw a lot. He only sounds good when giving

his speeches, and personally I can't stand all that preacher speechifying he does.


He does not have a good grasp on subject matter and veers off the tract into

Obama maze-world

[GalleryGod]

39. Not according to my college sophomores this A.M. He cleaned her clock.

"good grasp" yeah,sure, durrty. Subject matter? Please.

"You..in the back"

[durrrty libby]

44. And according to the inmates convalescing in my infirmary,

she shanked him.

[Dante_]

43. Obama's supporters (or Hillary haters) arguments are more ironic

What do you get when you mix more and ironic: moronic.

People attack Clinton for the exact same things a candidate they supposedly support does. How ridiculous is that? Do they think they are convincing anyone to vote against Hillary?

[femrap]

45. Is Obama an only child?

Is his mother still living? And if so, where is she?

I have read his bio and see none of my questions answered.

If he does have siblings, I assume they are half-siblings.