When Obama STARTS to court the RACIST voters, then we can BEGIN to have a dialogue...

[TankLV]

until then, STOP TRYING TO DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE!

He still trys to "excuse" his PANDERING to HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTS by this "reaching out" crap...

I am so fucking disgusted with him and his supporters on this...

IGNORE GBLT at your peril!!!

[jlake]

1. K&R

[Renew Deal]

2. Evangelical does not equal bigot

Sorry to break it to you. And you're home state put a "bigot" in second place in the republican race.

[TankLV]

4. 1- YES IT USUALLY DOES! 2 - I'm a DEMOCRAT - I could care less what these idiots do...

what a fucking ridiculuous bunch of crap to put forward!

Then I assume I can blame YOU for the repuke assholes in YOUR locality?

[Renew Deal]

7. Usually does does not mean does.

I live on LI. We've had some shitheads here too.

[mondo joe]

5. True. But since Obama is in fact giving bigots a free platform and using them or outreach,

we've got a problem.

[Bluebear]

18. "And you're home state"

("And you are home state"????)

[Renew Deal]

24. lol

Oops :dunce:

[Barack_America]

3. Obama wants to repeal both DOMA and DADT. He is in favor of adoption for gay and lesbian...

...couples.

Do NOT try to insinuate that he is disinterested in gay and lesbian rights, simply because he is willing to reach out to Christians.

[TankLV]

6. reach out to "HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTS"! not simply "christians"...

stop trying to give us a blow job...

[Renew Deal]

8. Get a grip

Blow jobs? What are you talking about.

[TankLV]

10. We notice you don't try to answer my OP...

when is he going to go after the RACISTS?!?!

We DEMAND an answer!!!

and don't act so fucking ignorant - you damn well know what I mean...

[Renew Deal]

11. You're OP is shrill garbage

There's nothing there except yelling about nothing.

[TankLV]

12. Your fucking support of Obama's GARBAGE is KILLING us!

Don't you DARE tell us to shut up and go away...

We've noticed that on all these threads, NOT ONE TIME have any of you disgusting supporters of this PANDERING have dared to even give us ONE answer...

and you know it's because you CAN'T!!!

My OP Question is the ELEPHANT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM SHITTING ON THE FURNITURE FOR ALL TO SEE!

[Renew Deal]

13. Who is us?

Who did I tell to shut up and/or go away? Show me where I said that. Please tell me what you want an answer to. There's no question in the OP and none in your response. So please tell me what the question is and I'll try to answer it. All you're doing is yelling, but it makes no sense.

[TankLV]

15. Read it - I"m pretty clear.

when Obama - or you for that matter - STARTS - just ONE time - to REACH OUT to the david dukes, the KKK and other VOTERS - which is YOUR apparent "excuse" for PANDERING to these HATEFUL RELIGIOUS HOMOPHOBIC BIGOTS and GIVE THEM A FUCKIN PLATFORM to spew their HATRED - then we can even BEGIN to talk about GBLT just ignoring this horrible FACT of his campaign!

Until then...

no - YOU don't fucking "get it" - because you REFUSE to "get it"...

[Renew Deal]

16. It's incomprehensible.

There's no question there either. I really, truly want to discuss whatever you want to discuss. Please re-read what you just wrote. It's a run on sentence that means nothing. You know what you're talking about. I can't read your mind.

[TankLV]

17. then I suggest you go back to school and take some reading comprehension courses...

there is nothing I can do for your being PURPOSELY ignorant...

[Renew Deal]

20. I'll go with you and we can take grammar too.

Ask a question. Go ahead. Here's a question for you. What's your question?

[TankLV]

21. Here - I'll go slowly again:

When - as in a moment that can be documented at a particular point in time.

Obama - the black hawaiian white mixed race man currently vying for the democratic nomination for President of the United States of America, Planet Earth, in the year commonly know as 2007 After the Common Era - or "After Christ" for religios bigots and non religious bigots alike.

STARTS - as in begins, commences

to court - to go after, to seek, to try to get to agree with

the - I could have said ANY, or JUST ONE here

RACIST - persons who base their actions/beliefs on a persons ethnicity - in a negative way, as in "hateful"

voters, - persons or groups of persons who are likely to participate in an electoral process

then - at which time, after all the previously stated things come to pass or are acted on

we - a group of persons, pluraly of I or me

can - are able to

BEGIN - start, commence, make the initial steps

to have - to entertain, to hold, to do, to take possession of

a dialogue - a discussion, talk with one another, speak words, enunciate thoughts, put words to paper - usuall involving two or more persons

if you don't understand this - may I suggest a dictioary - Websters, Funk and Wagenenals, or some other such similar compendium of meanings and definitions.

Candidates get the most heat when they violate their own stated principles, and this is precisely what he's done by allying himself with the forces of prejudice while claiming to be the most inclusive. The sheer incongruity of it all is discordant to all but those with an unshakeable bias for the man, and defense of these actions are nothing short of an evocation of privilege.

[Renew Deal]

22. Great use of discordant

:)

OK, I get you now. You think Obama is pandering to "bigots" by asking evangelicals to vote for him, and his supporters are just apologists. I'd say that asking for Evangelicals to vote for you is not pandering. You're supposed to ask people to vote for you. That's the point of all this. I also think that Obama and the other candidates know that true "bigots" will not vote for them anyway. I do not automatically equate evangelicals and/or christians with bigots.

[TankLV]

26. god god for christ on a cracker: not just "evangelicals" - the fucking RACISTS...

I'M done with you - you win - you're totall a fucked up ignorant son of a bitch who is purposfully trying to be an asshole...

well - you've succeeded beyond your wildest dreams...

congratulations...

[Renew Deal]

28. Unreal

You're inability to discuss something without going crazy is unhelpful. Of course you're done, because you can't stand to have your fragile world view challenged.

[TankLV]

32. WTF are you talking about?

look in the mirror - YOUR the one with language impairment...

I'm done toying with the trolls...

[Renew Deal]

34. No loss

as far as I can tell.

[CyberPieHole]

9. Bingo...

TankLV...you nailed it.

:kick: and recommend

[Bluerthanblue]

19. you are so blinded by hate and anger

you cannot see what you are doing.

YOU are spreading your own flavor of hatred and bigotry.

"OH, I don't mean "christians"... I'm talking about "bigoted ones"- is your qualifier-

that distinction will be applied at will- as it already is being done.
I'm sorry you are hurting. That is NO excuse.


you really need to stop and think.


peace

[TankLV]

29. hatred of people who hate me is a bad thing - nice...

clueless as usual...

try it out on somebody else, honey...

they tried that on Matthew Sheppard, too...

[Bluerthanblue]

39. I'm not your honey- and I am not

clueless.

You are already infected, you think that hating those who are rotting from the inside with hatred is ok, never mind that it makes you somehow "superior". And unless you get a hold of it, it is going to kill anything about YOU- TankLV, that really matters.

Angry? Frustrated? Enraged? Outraged? all those and more, are understandable, normal reactions to injustice, prejudice, abuse.

Who tried what on Matthew Sheppard? Do you think invoking his name gives justification for blanket hatred? You can't speak for Matthew- no one can.

If you are choosing to hate groups of people because of the actions and words of some very evil, ugly individuals- who may hide their cruel intentions behind a 'religion' - If you are going to incite hatred and ugliness towards strangers, because you fear them may harbor hatred for you- then I pity you.

I support the equal rights legally, socially, religiously, secularly, _________ of GLBT individuals-

I will never support group hatred.

I sincerely wish you peace and healing~

[Beausoir]

30. Uhhh...you can be a Christian without being a homophobic gay-basher. Honest!

Jesus. You are so sadly misinformed it makes me want to puke. But, we've been putting up with the likes of you for many sad years.

And don't you DARE try and lecture me about adoption and GLBT issues.

I will take your head off.

[NMMNG]

14. Amen!

No more of this nonsense! Don Imus says racist stuff and Obama demands "Fire him!". John K. Tanner makes racist comments and Obama demands , "Fire Him!". People on his campaign staff spew horrific homophobic garbage and he says "we need to reach out".

Why the double standard? Why does racism need to be shut down but virulent homophobes given a stage and a microphone?

[Solon]

23. To be honest, I don't think they care...

Honestly, with the language they have been using, most bordering on the homophobic, if not already crossing it. They don't care.

[NMMNG]

36. Unless they want our money, our support or our votes

I really don't think they care. This quote (and it's from an Obama supporter--I actually do agree with what some of them have to say) sums it up very nicely:

"I've gotten a sense from my friends -- and I feel this way too -- that we're tired of being ATM machines. They come and take our money and leave California and they don't really pay attention to what we think or believe. In Boston , we were good soldiers because Bush is so bad. But it's the last time. We're not going to swallow our pride like that ever again. In 1992 , we were part of a new, exciting world. To think that 12 years later we have moved backwards -- it's horrifying. And the fact that most people didn't think about it and no one noticed at the Democratic convention -- that's the saddest part."

Jeremy Bernard

[ProSense]

25. Bill Clinton on Huckabee: "he is a very good man"

Bill Clinton on Huckabee: "he is a very good man"

[TankLV]

27. ahh - the old "Look - over here - THEY'RE saying something" ploy without answering the question...

sorry, but even if it WERE true, which it pathetically on your part is not, it has NO bearing on the particular point of this post...

[ProSense]

35. No,

look over here, no here, no over here.

[Tatiana]

37. Admirable.

Very admirable, ProSense, but I get the feeling that this is one of those issues that is so sensitive and so volatile, that you may be laboring in vain.

[MzShellG]

31. RACIST voters would never work with him...

Otherwise, I'm sure he would.

[NMMNG]

38. No he wouldn't

"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude." link

Obama won't "reach out" to racists, so why does he "reach out" to homophobes?

[SoxFan]

33. Hmmm