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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:01 PM
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Tonight is the night Obama lost the election
This is a collapse of monumnental proportions.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:02 PM
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1. What happened?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:28 PM
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39. Grain of salt. He did fine -- but debating isn't his forte. He hems and haws a bunch
but when he was in his groove, he was doing awesome.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 PM
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47. Sorry, awesome never happened tonight from Obama.
Obama can deliver prepared speeches as none of the above can - - that is when he is awesome, uplifting, inspiring.

Edwards was awesome tonight.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:02 PM
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2. He definitely is not ready for prime time...n/t
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 PM
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46. Exactly..
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:02 PM
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3. Care to elaborate? nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:03 PM
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8. Consider the source.
Total bullshit.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:02 PM
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4. And it's all because the truth is coming out that he's the LEAST progressive on the stage
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:10 PM
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24. He really is the least progressive
His support on DU is a complete mystery to me. I can't see how anything about his positions can appeal to the base.
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:14 PM
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32. Because you need more than fringe left to win elections.
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:40 PM
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54. Sorry, but universal healthcare is not a fringe issue
And he is so completely unprogressive on that. He's got a BS, just for show, plan for healthcare. If he were to get to the GE (which I do not think he will), all you would hear is there is no difference between himself and McCain. That ain't gonna get it.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:02 PM
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I'm not sure.
Will people feel he's been ganged up on, and backlash against the others? Time will tell.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:50 PM
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57. He tried to point that out
In the second half, so I am sure he "will" use it if he thinks it will help him.

I think the worst thing for him was the childish back and forth fighting with him and Hillary. Not good at all for either of them. Edwards clearly stood out tonight by not getting involved in that, and pointing out that that kind of crap was not going to help anyone in this country get the things they need, like health care.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:02 PM
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5. You can say the same thing about Hillary
She totally lost South Carolina with the slumlord comment.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:03 PM
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6. We shall see. We shall see.
But what if it's the night Hillary lost the election as well, hmm?
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:03 PM
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7. And the night the Republicans won.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:04 PM by BayouBengal07
Republicans are licking their chops at the opportunity to run against Clinton so they can pound her into the dirt.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:04 PM
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13. as Tweety says "HA!"
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:03 PM
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9. Both Obama and Hillary lost BIG time..
Watch for John Edwards to climb up this week by double digits and making it a dead heat - when SC is done, JE will win the primary and steamroll Super Duper Tuesday!
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:04 PM
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10. Blame it on technical difficulties
Obama will.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:04 PM
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11. Not seeing it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:04 PM
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12. Put down the bong.
Seriously.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM
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16. He's a paid Clinton operative nt
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM
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19. Herman does not smoke the reefer.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM by ellisonz
He chugs cans of Natty Ice Lite.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:05 PM
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14. Here's a flash
If I were the Repukes I'd love to run against your candidate.

Shooting the Clintons is like shooting fish in a barrel.

It's easy.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:07 PM
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20. Shooting Clintons is easy. Defeating them is nearly impossible.
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:08 PM
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21. will Ross Perot be on the ballot in November?
just sayin'.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:13 PM
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31. I dunno. But I do know that except for one governor's race, both Bill and Hillary Clinton
have won everything they each have run for, and earned high approval ratings in doing so.

Does it still hurt?
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:22 PM
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37. does what hurt?
what hurts is pissing away the White House in 2008. We deserve what we'll get if we nominate her.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:19 PM
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35. Yeah we'll see
Bill's days as a pol are over - you wait and seee what's awaiting your campaign.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:23 PM
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38. My campaign is the Democratic ticket, whoever it is.
But smarter and more powerful than you have tried to defeat Bill and Hillary.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:35 AM
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58. That's funny
Do you know the Clintons? Or do you simply think they are Gods?

I'm not very smart but I'm well-acquainted with the topic.
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bodhi Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM
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15. How so .....
Wasn't it "first husband-to-be" Mr Bill Hillary who fell asleep during a MLK Day speech?

You can write off the Black vote in SC - all thanks to the first "black president" ..... (snicker)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM
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17. Obama should have been put on political suicide watch
It may be too late.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM
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18. A Herman Munster O.P. without mentioning "race". Wow. Maybe there's hope after all.
One step at a time, Herman. You can make it. I'm pulling for you.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:28 PM
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40. I wouldn't hold my breath
*sigh*
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 PM
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48. LOL! He should have his own entire forum at the DU for his countless threads.
I honestly think that whatever passes through his head is immediately launched as a thread here.

Wonder when the "I'd like to have a ham sandwich 'cuz I'm hungry" will be a thread.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:37 PM
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53. Well, then I will just beat him to the punch.
:evilgrin:
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:09 PM
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22. I really don't understand why any Dem supports him
Listen to him on the healthcare issue. He's awful. He can't even convince me of that he's solid on this issue, and he sure as well isn't going to get it through Congress. Gawd, how can a Dem vote for this guy???
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:10 PM
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23. That's nice Dear. Now go to bed.
:crazy:
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:10 PM
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25. If true
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 PM by ClericJohnPreston
I hope it comes in time to rescue Edwards!

Now that the M$M has Biden, Dodd, Kucinich and Gravel out, they are aiming for the only candidate that scares the Corporatocracy and M$M alike, EDWARDS. He is to be marginalized at all costs.

Obama AND Hillary are Corporatists.

We ALL lose if either wins!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:11 PM
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26. I fucking hope so. /nt
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:11 PM
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27. I Think Not. n/t
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:12 PM
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28. He never had a chance anyway
This country is not ready for someone like him on many levels. Nothing will change when either Hillary or McCain is in office.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:13 PM
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30. For someone who never had a chance he seems to be doing quite well
what with having more delegates and all.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:13 PM
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29. We must be watching different debates. He's finally defending himself.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:16 PM
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34. Unsane....good name
:eyes:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:15 PM
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33. What Herman Munster said!
:yourock:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 PM
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36. Only if America wants a proven liar
which Hillary has clearly been shown to be.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:28 PM
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41. Whatever you say, Bill.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:34 PM
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50. Gahahahahahahaha
Egggggs-cellent.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:29 PM
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42. He did fine. Tonight was the night that Hillary showed how defensive she is about her $$$
from lobbyists, etc.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 PM
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43. I wouldn't count him out just yet. Edwards did take the spotlight, though
...
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Zhuk Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 PM
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44. Obama is weak in debates
Without a teleprompter and a speech in front of him his skills as a orator disappear, I don't think this will significantly hurt him but this debate tonight did nothing to help him either
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:31 PM
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45. hillary came across like an obnoxios school marm!
And one that was wrong numerous times to boot. If anyone lost tonight it would the the Hill
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:33 PM
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49. Your opinion surprises me given your usual love for Obama!
Oh wait. That's not you. You're usually posting 25 OP's an hour attacking Obama.

That's right. My bad.
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TheJizzaking Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:35 PM
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51. Whatevers
------ Please.

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:36 PM
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52. John Edwards handed Obama his ass..
when Obama is under attack he begins with the.... ah,ah,ah,ah,ah,..shaking his finger not listening to the allegation but interrupting to stop the accusation... Edwards nailed him good. He said: "Now let me finish!" and backed Obama down..
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:42 PM
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55. lol That's a spin of monumental proportions.
Like everything you post here about Obama.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 10:43 PM
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56. Clap your hands and believe!
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:39 AM
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59. These debates always leave me liking
John Edwards more and Barack Obama less. However, I'm still committed to my first choice.
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