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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:34 AM Original message |
What People Don't "Get" About The McClurkin Thing |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. I am voting for Obama. I would never, ever vote for Clinton. eom |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Hoping "The Gays" can get cured by Obama's "ex-Gay" buddy McClurkin? |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
113. Come on, now. He never said or implied that. We get it, we get it. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
109. As if your rainbow flag avatar fools anyone. /nt |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
112. Ditto. I still don't see what McClurkin has to do with any of what the initial post ... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes. They key is to find the common human factor in people |
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alteredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. Great post |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. You have the timing wrong |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. So Democrats need to ignore a significant section of the black community. People who're progressive |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. there is a massive difference between John Doe |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. Wow. Homophobia is okay because it is not everyone's main issue ... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. it's not okay |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. Don't claim racism - it is a fat that there are MANY who will never vote for a |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. define "many" |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Many everywhere, the majority of those in the South. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. so you're implying |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Apparently he does, judging by his actions. He certainly promotes homophobia in order to get votes. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:39 AM Original message |
Oh, I get it, you just can't sell it. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
6. self delete, double post. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
7. The Democratic Party doesn't function like a real party; it's really just a coalition as you say. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. Wow- Magic Rat- that |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
11. Maybe being tolerated isn't good enough for many gays. nt. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. well, you have to start somewhere |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. maybe gays don't care if hateful bigots love them or not. give them civil rights... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. i think he supports civil rights |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Hell's bells |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. then don't vote for McClurkin |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. But Obama is |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. who? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Rev Kirbyjon Caldwell |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. oh |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. It's not just a Black Church issue |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. if he did |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. very much so |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
117. McClurkin |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. Obama's pandering to the Hate Wing of his church is OK, cuz it's just "the gays" anyways. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. pandering? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
65. Yes - we LIVE with it - it's YOU who doesn't... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. i think you need to get a clue |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. That is not what the OP said. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
13. I'll be sure to tell my stepdaughter |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. i don't think you do get it |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Well, I know what I do get |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. whispering in his ears? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Nice maneuver |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. that's not what I was implying |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Good post |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. Agree and recommend! |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I don't think he knew he would say that |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. then he is a total idiot |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. exactly, a receptive crowd |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. He didn't tell that crowd squat |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. maybe not that crowd |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yeah - it was a "McClurkin event" |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Stop using facts to bash Obama! |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
78. He didn't tell *them* ANYTHING. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Obama's campaign was apparently willing to take the risk |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. did he sing at the event? |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Obama has admitted he is not into details |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. what does that have to do with anything |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. Forget it. Their eyes are shut wide. |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
29. I absolutely agree with you |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You aren't all homophobes |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I hope you don't think that of me |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #39 |
54. I don't think that of you |
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FunkyLeprechaun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. I'm terribly sorry that had to happen to you |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
49. What if it was a member of the KKK? No seriously.... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. it's not different |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. Yeah, he expressed "disagreement" with McClurkin's ideas |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
98. Would you offer the same platitudes to black church groups if the situation were reversed? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
107. A large and crucial segment of our party do not support racial equality either |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
51. The thing is, a lot of folks do "get" it |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
58. it infuriates me that supposed liberals want to make |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. wait, wait, wait |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
72. they've all been discussed here before -- |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
108. Here you go... |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Did Obama really say that ???? :-( if true. |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. It was issued by his campaign the night of the McClurkin concert n.t |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. FredScuttle, someone, link to the "McClurk doesn't want to convert happy gays" statement please |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
60. NO SALE! sorry - no amount of RATIONALIZING will clean this STAIN from him and his campaign... |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. one of many cuts? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
64. So, will you make the same "concerns" for white RACISTS?! |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. would racists be willing to hear Obama speak? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
106. It depends. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
68. thinking this morning about the feminists who |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
105. I agree too. |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
69. And the OP |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. the only spin |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Great Argument.....NOT |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
76. What a condescending post. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. You said it better than me |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. heaven forbid he tries to change people's minds |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. He's not changing anyone's mind. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. he's looking for votes in a black church? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. What converts did he win? |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. he said he rejects those statements |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. He said he "disagreed" |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. are there large segments of the party that are white supremacists? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. LOL |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. it's impossible to answer |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. This is not about "attitudes" |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. HAHAHAHA |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Has a pro-life priest been invited to speak at a Clinton campaign event? |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. no, but I'm sure Clinton has spoke in church's |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Nobody here has a problem with Obama speaking anytime, anyplace, anywhere. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
90. i don't suppose obama would associate with a klan member for votes, would he? nt |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
91. You simply do not grasp the seriousness of the issue |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. I predict a cricket response to this. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. but I don't see anyone supporting that |
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VarnettaTuckpocket (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. His campaign issued a statement that McClurkin only wants to help gays who are unhappy |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. That's like saying we will help black folks who want to turn white. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
96. Great post. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. This is such naive nonsense. These are coded statements to the anti-gay voter. It's not "tolerance". |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. well, i guess I can't change your opinion |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. "This is such naive nonsense." |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
104. Interesting point you make. What about the "prolife" Democrats? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
111. This is an excellent thread for figuring out who you want on ignore. /nt |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
116. This isn't about "one man", godsfuckingdammit! |
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