Obama people, Do you think Hillary is a racist?

[MadBadger]

I know I dont, and yet I see threads popping up here accusing us of saying she's a racist. I just dont see that Among Hill Supporters. What do you think?

[XemaSab]

1. Nope

:(

[billbuckhead]

4. The real point is that some don't care if it's true

[MzShellG]

41. Not necessarily racist...

As in Ku KLux Klan-esque but she has revealed herself to be pretty vile and vicious.

[XemaSab]

43. I don't think it's race related though...

If it were some white dude instead of Obama she'd be pulling out the stops for them too....

[MzShellG]

61. Maybe

But do you think she and Bill would've made those same kinds of comments about John Edwards had he been neck and neck with her? Would he have gone into those NV caucuses if Edwards was their opponent? I doubt it.

[Evergreen Emerald]

55. in what way?

[Colobo]

2. No.

[tammywammy]

3. No

[JVS]

5. Do you mean holding racist views herself or being willing to exploit racism for primary wins?

[thunder rising]

10. EXACTLY!!

[thunder rising]

6. No, but I'm not going to tell a black person that he cannot be insulted either

There are all kinds of things that WE DON'T KNOW WE DON'T KNOW!

Let that sink in for a bit.

[IndianaJones]

9. bwahaha. nt.

[durrrty libby]

12. I know. What a load...Jesus

:crazy: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

[IndianaJones]

14. In another thread he was telling a gay poster to pound sand for being insulted. nt.

[durrrty libby]

16. Not surprised.

[MadBadger]

15. You realize you support a bunch of cheaters?

[durrrty libby]

21. Says Obama supporters. Not exactly loaded with unbiased credibility

[MadBadger]

22. Talking about the Patriots

[durrrty libby]

29. Goes to show how ridiculous and simpleminded you are

Not to mention you know diddly squat about football. Because if you did you would know
what a foolish statement that is


18-0
PERFECTION

[MadBadger]

37. Ummmm, so they were caught cheating and lost their first round pick and 500,000 dollars for Billy

And that means they weren't cheating?

[durrrty libby]

38. They were railroaded, but no matter. Belichick was pissed

at the shabby and wrongheaded treatment so he resolved to crush and embarrass his opponents

It was a very good season. I like his style

[CTLawGuy]

57. that's crossing the line pal

I support the Patriots too! The were fined for breaking the rule against filming while on the sideline. There is no rule against stealing signals.

GO PATS!

[MadBadger]

59. So you support the most evil empire in all the land too?

Terrible!!!!

[CTLawGuy]

60. The New York Yankees?

No I don't support them.

[Pathwalker]

63. Are you Donald Rumsfeld, or just channeling him?

[globalvillage]

7. No

[NYCGirl]

8. No, the Clintons are not racist. NT

[earthlover]

11. I don't know. I think she is someone who is totally obsessed with power

And Obama is in the way. So he looked formidable. And she and her husband figured out that it would be politically expedient for them (at the expense of the party) to raise the race issue, knowing that if Obama defended himself it would reinforce race as the issue. It was a totally cheap shot and race baiting at its worst. But no, I don't think Hillary is a racist. She will just act like a racist if it will get her political gain. Sad to say, if she were a racist that would be better. At least it would be genuine, something the Clintons could never dream about.

[aquart]

28. So Alice Palmer wasn't in Obama's way?

And he's not the least tiniest bit obsessed with power, first term Senator running for the White House that he is?

How is it only wrong if the WOMAN is ambitious? Oh, wait.

[RaleighNCDUer]

39. You do know that he was asked to run for her seat when she got

other ambitions - then when that didn't pay out she reneged and wanted her seat back.

That made her just another contender for an open seat. And he beat her.

What's the big deal?

[DJ13]

13. NO, just an opportunist who will use any dirty trick .........

.......in satisfying her and her husbands lust for power.

If her opponent was gay, they would become gay bashers if thats what it took.

Even if her opponent was another woman, Bill would be making snide sexist comments about Hillary's opponent.

It doesnt matter who Hillary's opponent had been, they would have smeared them in any way possible just to win.

[FrenchieCat]

17. She's willing to have race be used as an issue, if it gets her ahead....

so she's not a racist, she just not doing what she can to keep race from being an issue. Makes her an enabler to the problem...since she's not a solution to it.

Kinda like her bringing up LBJ a right prior to MLK's birthday. Why did she feel compeled to mention LBJ as part of the conversation to begin with? Because she was attempting to imply that although Obama is a "good" talker, that wasn't the only thing important. Cause she wanted to equal herself with being the "Doer" like LBJ was. In other words, she equalized LBJ to MLK standing...because it suited her narrative.

So in fact, she brought up someone that wasn't even relevant to the moment in order to make political points for herself. The carnarge ensued after that. Instead of making that admission and cleaning up that act, she remained insensitive to why that could have been seen perceived as a slight, and acted like she didn't quite get what the hoopla was about; Wide eye innocence and all.

[plantwomyn]

27. If you think that LBJ

was irrelevant to civil rights in this country you need to read more.

[RaleighNCDUer]

40. And if you think that LBJ was more relevant than MLK

your name is Hillary.

[plantwomyn]

52. It is so sad

The lack of ability to understand the English language and vocabulary around here.
Irrelevant means a lack of reverence. Unrelated to the matter being considered.
Relevant means having a bearing on or connection with the matter at hand.
Now were in my post do you see a relevant adjective?
Did I say anywhere that LBJ was more of anything? NO.
My post suggested that you may reconsider your opinion that Clinton had no business mentioning LBJ in the same breath as MLK. Historically their work was interlaced. MLK's legacy was in part is his use on nonviolent confrontation. MLK was the conscience that made it hard for LBJ to sleep at night. LBJ forced the Congress to vote for legislation which would NEVER have seen a vote on the floor without him. LBJ "told an aide, "We have lost the South for a generation," anticipating a coming backlash from Southern whites against Johnson's Democratic Party.<20> In 1965, he achieved passage of a second civil rights bill, the Voting Rights Act, that outlawed discrimination in voting, thus allowing millions of southern blacks to vote for the first time." Wikipedia.
At least he had the balls to do what he thought was right despite knowing he and his party would pay the price. Unlike most of the candidates now, who pander adnausium.
Should he have done it without black citizens being attacked by dogs and beaten by police. YES!
MLK was brilliant, inspirational and selfless. Looking at the landscape of "leadership" today, his star outshines everyone not just LBJ. This country needs a leader, not just African-Americans but all Americans.

[dailykoff]

46. I think she's racist. She's a calculated provocateur and exploiter of racism

which I've personally witnessed, and that is racism. If she cared about the people she exploits she wouldn't do it, just like if the oil companies cared about Iraqis they wouldn't be committing genocide there. They don't and they are, and incidentally that's Hilly's grossest manifestation of racism -- she knows "Islamofacism" is a load of crap but she pimps that one too for political profit.

p.s. I meant this to be an answer the OP but I also agree with your post Frenchie.

[BenDavid]

18. We all know that the clintons are political geniuses and political

savvy unlike no others, and this begs this question to be ask and maybe answered by obama folks. WHY would the Clintons, especially HRC be playing the race card against the group of folks she will need in this campaign, and MORE SO in the general election?

Plus to those slinging chit I would hope you understand the Clintons don't deserve to be put in the same category as Don Imus.HRC did not diss Martin Luther King and Bill did not mock Barack Obama's run for the presidency as a joke.

[RaleighNCDUer]

42. It's called triangulation. They think they can do what they want in the primary

because in the general, where are those people going to go? To the Republicans?

It's the same game they've played with progressives and gays for years - give a little lip service, do nothing, and count on them staying with the Democrats because at least they aren't Republicans.

I'll tell you now, if she gets the nod they WILL lose a lot of those progressives, and gays, and now, blacks as well. Just staying home is always an option.

[NJObamaWoman]

19. Nope but they want to win at all cost.

[aquart]

30. Alice Palmer. Alice Palmer. Alice Palmer. Alice Palmer.

But Obama's not like that. Not a bit.

[Evergreen Emerald]

56. tell us about Alice Palmer, for those who do not know.

[jefferson_dem]

20. Nope.

But i'll be watching closely... ;)

[gdaerin]

23. No, I absolutely don't! nt

[Bluerthanblue]

24. NO-

plain and simple.

peace~

[madrchsod]

25. no

[Pirate Smile]

26. No

[Cha]

31. hillary is hungry

for more power and thinks she has to smear Obama and bill needs to lie about him.

[THUNDER HANDS]

32. of course not

it's stupid for anyone to suggest that she's a racist.

[rufus dog]

33. Not me!

I can think of a lot of other negative terms but racist is not one that comes to mind.

[SoxFan]

34. Racist? No.

Ruthless, conniving, and ready to sell blood relatives to the highest bidder?

Different story.

[LittleBlue]

35. I don't. I just see her words as being idiotic in the extreme. Might as well bash Jesus and Gandhi

or something. But then again, I'm white. A black person who has faced this their whole lives might reasonably expect more from her.

[sb5697]

36. If using race will advance her cause then she'll use that

and most anything else she has. That's what I think.

[AGirl]

44. racist is not a black and white yes and no answer

[BluegrassDem]

45. She apparently uses the "N-word"

So that would qualify as a racist in my book.

[MadBadger]

49. With a post like this, I need to see a link.

[Egnever]

47. No but I dont think she will hesitate to use it to her benefit.

[Barack_America]

48. I've said this before...

No, I do not think she is racist.

Yes, I do think she will use race in order to win.

[dailykoff]

50. But how is exploiting racism NOT racism?

There are several posts here making that distinction but I personally think it's bullshit. If she knowingly stirs up racial animosity, she's exploiting race, and that's racism.

[Barack_America]

51. I hadn't thought of it that way. You're right, that complicates it...

I'll have to think about that.

[auburngrad82]

53. No, I don't

And I don't believe Obama is anti-gay.

[CTLawGuy]

54. no

she just wants to win REALLY REALLY REALLY badly.

[mtnsnake]

58. I think the purpose of your OP is to make this ridiculous notion become one more vicious rumor

just by bringing something as farfetched as this up and putting it out there.

I haven't seen threads popping up all over that accuses Hillary Clinton of being a racist. The only threads I've seen along those lines are threads implying that the Clinton campaign has played the race card, but very few posters ever calling Hillary a racist.

This is just as shameful as someone posting something as ridiculous as "Do you think Obama was a drug dealer?" in an OP.

[dorkulon]

62. Of course not.

I wish we could get past this shit.

[JackORoses]

64. She is not racist, but she is not above hinting at race to win an election.

[rox63]

65. Of course not

But I don't think the Clintons above using whatever will help them get elected. They're not anti-gay either, but Bill Clinton still stuck us with DOMA and Don't Ask, Don't Tell.