Hillary's Donnie McClurkins

[ProSense]

Hillary's Donnie McClurkins

One week after the gay blogosphere went ballistic over Barack Obama's ties to an "ex-gay" gospel minister, the Washington Blade has an interesting story about two prominent anti-gay black ministers who Hillary Clinton has embraced as supporters.

(Clinton supporters) said they’re generally unconcerned that anti-gay ministers Bishop Eddie Long and Rev. Harold Mayberry are supporting the campaign.

Long’s New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in suburban Atlanta once marched against gay marriage and hosts an “ex-gay” ministry. Mayberry has preached against homosexuality to his First African Methodist Episcopal Church in Oakland, Calif.

In interviews this week, Wilson and others said they were not concerned that Clinton had accepted a $1,000 donation from Long or that she recently thanked Mayberry for “fighting for civil rights and equality,” because she has not allowed either minister to speak for the campaign.

The Clinton backers tried to draw a distinction between Clinton accepting support from Long and Mayberry and Obama "handing a microphone" to "ex-gay" singer Donnie McClurkin. Actually it was the Obama campaign that picked McClurkin and the candidate chose not to disinvite him, but whatever.

Unlike McClurkin, Long is an anti-gay leader, make no mistake, gathering thousands to march in support of Georgia's anti-marriage amendment. Likewise, Mayberry said of gays, "I'm comfortable in what I believe in. I'm not rejecting people. As God loves, we love. I don't reject thieves, I reject thievery."

Another blogger, MyDD, has highlighted Clinton's ties to yet another anti-gay black minister, who has a $10,000 "consulting contract" with the Clinton campaign and spoke out in favor of the state's anti-marriage amendment.

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[Solon]

1. No deflections, fuck Hillary, and Fuck Obama...

Stop with this bullshit you fucking homophobic pieces of shit!

[earthlover]

13. Who is phobic? Your hateful reaction is pathetic!

You can stand on your self-appointed perch and call others phobic...while you display such vile bitterness and hatred?

Get. A. Grip.

[Solon]

15. I reserve my bitterness for those who deserve it...

those who apologize for the actions of Obama or Hillary, and themselves display bitterness towards those who object to their behavior deserve everything they get.

[ProSense]

16. "Stop with this bullshit you fucking homophobic pieces of shit!"

Wow! Why hasn't this been deleted?

[Name removed]

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[Renew Deal]

29. I wish you said that to a few people over the last few weeks.

But as far as I've seen, you haven't.

[terrya]

22. Because it's true?

[ProSense]

24. Handle

it!

[MonkeyFunk]

25. word

:thumbsup:

[ProSense]

27. Hypocrisy:

[MH1]

26. Maybe because too many of us have that poster on ignore?

[ProSense]

44. Kick! n/t

[KittyWampus]

66. I can't believe the moderators deleted posts after yours and yet allow you to call the OP a piece of

shit.

[hulklogan]

2. another "Obamanaut Ex-Gay Talking Points" thread

sigh

[KennedyGuy]

3. yawn..another None-sense post...

[Name removed]

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[Joe the Revelator]

5. Another non-rebuttal from KG

Just keep covering your eyes and being a hypocrite, its seems to be you MO.

[KennedyGuy]

8. Look Wolshie's back..still won't date ya bub..

but I will give ya a biiiiig kiss!

[ProSense]

79. Kick! n/t

[Bluebear]

11. ...

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

6. Everyone supporting a candidate MUST agree 100% with them!

Therefore, everything believed by a candidate's supporters must also be believed by the candidate!

Come on, enough already. This place is becoming no better than free republic.

[Kittycat]

7. Good Post!

[ProSense]

9. Except,

here hypocrisy is challenged. They are sheep.

[FrenchieCat]

10. You are right....this place in no better than Free Republic....

bunch of underage bullies in a zoo is my rendering of what this place looks like.

[earthlover]

14. I totally agree!

Sorry to say.

[Tektonik]

42. Hitler gassed and burned millions

But goddamn I love those Volkswagens. Hitler in '08!!!!!!!

[mondo joe]

49. I don't expect 100% agreement. But I don't expect - or accept - sending bigots out with

a free platform.

[ProSense]

12. Kick! n/t

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17. Kick! n/t

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

19. Discuss this: Hillary's Donnie McClurkins n/t

[rox63]

20. So what do all the self-righteous Hillary-supporters have to say about this?

And why is it any different in your view when it's Obama rather than Hillary who's sucking up to anti-gay ministers? I don't think my candidate is perfect. I don't agree with him on everything. But I do think he's the best of the remaining viable candidates. So let's hear it - Why is this ok for Hillary, but not for Obama?

[rox63]

28. YooHoo!! Any replies?

</sound of crickets>

[ProSense]

40. Kick! n/t

[Dr. Strange]

63. This is the political version of "black people loot, white people find."

White politicians "get homophobes," black politicians "play with ex-gays."

And playing with ex-gays is apparently worse. Or something like that.

[jackpan1260]

30. I look at all the issues and proudly support Obama. I will never vote for Clinton. eom

[ProSense]

31. October letter from Obama supporters and leaders in the LGBT and African American faith communities

October letter from Obama supporters and leaders in the LGBT and African American faith communities

[David Zephyr]

32. When will Hillary Clinton speak to white churches against homophobia as Obama has in black churches?

Never. Of course not.

[sandnsea]

33. Then there's Short, Matthews & Jackson

I wish somebody would put the whole bunch of them together at the same time.

[ProSense]

34. Kick! n/t

[rinsd]

35. yet another anti-gay black minister, who has a $10,000 "consulting contract" with the Clinton campai

Yes, the same man Darrell Jackson was personally recruited by Obama and offered a $5000 a month contract with the campaign.

[ProSense]

36. Kick! n/t

[NMMNG]

46. Bingo

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/02/an_endorsement.html

Obama wanted him bad. But Jackson wanted more bling.

[ProSense]

48. So Hillary hired him because Obama made her do it?

Good one!

[NMMNG]

54. Where did I say that?

Obama wanted him and offered him more than $5K. But Hillary offered him $10K, so he went to Hillary.

Obama would have had the bigot if only he'd offered him more bling. So while Mayberry is Hillary's bigot, it's only because Obama was too cheap.

[ProSense]

77. Kick! n/t

[cali]

37. It's curious that HIllary largely gets a pass but

an Obama thread on the same topic gets hundreds of angry posts. Double standard?

[mondo joe]

47. Hillary's offenses on this matter aren't in the same league as Obama's.

IMO.

[ProSense]

55. Kick! n/t

[mckeown1128]

38. kick and rec

I will kick this every few hours till that moron stops kicking the "60 days and still no apology obama/mclurk. post"

[ProSense]

39. Thanks

for the help!

[readmoreoften]

41. Fuck both of them.

But fuck Obama more for even pretending to be about change. Lying sack of neoconservative shit.

[ProSense]

43. More:

link

[NMMNG]

45. Hillary is no angel, but

1. She got a $1,000 donation from an ex-gay shithead. She didn't use multiple ex-gay shitheads to campaign on her behalf.
2. She pays a regular homophobe $10k a month. The only reason he's on her payroll is because Obama only offered him $5K+ a month. The man-O-God apparently was a man-O-cash. I guess the big O should have sweetened the deal.

She's got homophobes, yes, but he plays with ex-gays. They're far worse. They don't just want to keep us from getting married. They want to eradicate us.



And for the record, this is not an endorsement of Hillary or her actions. Homophobes and their supporters are vile creatures. However people need to understand that there are nuances. All homophobes are not created alike, and all behaviors are not the same. Hillary has done wrong, but Obama has done worse.

[ProSense]

50. Kick! n/t

[mckeown1128]

51. kick...and this is a must rec for all.....nt

[AtomicKitten]

52. K&R

[mckeown1128]

53. kick and another plea for recs....

It is now time to stand up against the hypocrisy in the attacks on Obama. Come on and stand up.

[Egnever]

56. Sigh....

Lovely welp I aint fighting this battle for Hillary thats for damn sure.

I realy wish we could stop this shit though.

[Azathoth]

57. This thread should stay kicked for a few days n/t

[FrenchieCat]

58. Agreed!

:kick:

[Egnever]

59. fuck it a kick for Freddie

[Azathoth]

60. I'll drink to that

Here's to you Freddie :kick:

[ProSense]

61. Kick n/t

[MH1]

67. Yep, it should. nt

[mckeown1128]

62. kick.....nt

[greguganus]

64. Too late to rec, but I can kick it! n/t

[ProSense]

70. Thanks! n/t

[mckeown1128]

65. kick...nt

[mckeown1128]

68. I am goin to kick everytime someone mentions McClurkin...nt

[Major Hogwash]

71. How could one guy like that get so many people upset? He isn't a mass murderer like Manson.

It really boggles my mind why one guy like that becomes a cause celebre for some around here.

[mondo joe]

80. Do you really want to understand? Because I can try to explain it to you.

But I won't bother if you're not interested.

[ProSense]

81. Kick! n/t

[ShortnFiery]

69. kick

:dem:

[ProSense]

72. Kick! n/t

[Azathoth]

73. When will Hillary apologize? n/t

[ProSense]

83. Kick! n/t

[FredScuttle]

74. So glad to see the Obamanations admit that Saint Barack is as big a phony as Clinton

So....how does that excuse your hero welcoming bigots into his campaign, exactly?

[ProSense]

76. Kick! n/t

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75. Kick! n/t

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78. Kick! n/t

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82. Kick! n/t

[Azathoth]

84. Another day without an apology from Senator Clinton n/t

[ProSense]

85. Kick! n/t