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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:51 AM
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OK--Who really thought McCain would take So. Carolina?
I didn't, that's for sure. I thought So. Carolina was red enough to vote Huckabee and I was worried about him. I was wrong, wrong, wrong!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:53 AM
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1. I thought Huckabee would win SC and I am less worried about him than McCain.
I think McCain will be almost as bad on social issues and will be far worse on everything else. And harder to beat.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:38 AM
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13. Then you don't know enough about Huckabee, IMO
Huckabee is intent on establishing an American theocracy.

In addition, he is corrupt, and condoned the cruel abuse of an animal by his then 17-yr-old son.

Anyone like that WOULD be worse than McCain. IMO.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:01 AM
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2. I didn't...
...I thought Huckabee would win

The way I see it Fred Thompson took votes away from Huckabee which favored McCain.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:06 AM
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6. I agree .Fred Thomson was the unintentional
spoiler in S.Carolina. I was really hoping for a Huckabee win,but I think he's lost his juice now.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:03 AM
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3. I Did
I looked at Intrade and the RCP Average... They are usually but not always right...

The Huck is done... He might win a few uber red states like Mississippi and Alabama but that's it...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:05 AM
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4. Agree with some others here in thinking Huckabible would win. n/t
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:05 AM
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5. I did. I also believe he will be the nominee. nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:09 AM
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7. Where Does He Win Beside Hard Core Red States?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 AM
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8. Well, he won in New Hampshire (nt)
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:18 AM
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9. Edit: Never mind
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:18 AM by Zynx
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:24 AM
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11. He has a history in NH....
They voted for the lesser evil. Huckabee didn't stand a chance here. (Not enough evangelicals). He beat George Bush here in 2000 so he's known as NH's "comeback kid", along with Bill-Hillary Clinton. I think it was sentiment more than anything else.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:40 AM
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14. McCain Won New Hampshire
I thought we were talking about The Huckster who is done...

He's the Pat Robertson of this election...
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:05 PM
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23. I thought the subject of this sub-thread was McCain
:shrug: I think we probably agree about McCain, then.

For Huckabee - well, I wouldn't call Iowa 'deep red' - 751,957 votes for Bush v. 741,898 for Kerry in 2004 looks more like a marginal state, to me. But I don't think Huckabee will have much more success - the 'man of the people' image may work in a rural state with a caucus with a lot of personal appearances because it's the very fist, but won't, I think help so much in the big states. He's not a Republican establishment candidate, so won't get the big money for adverts. So I think we agree on that end outcome too.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:23 AM
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10. I thought McCain would win. In the south Patriotism trumps
all. They can be pragmatic. Even some Christians realize that
Huckabee might not compete well in GE.
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patch1234 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 AM
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12. I did. Huck is a one-trick-pony
Huck's, visit every church in Iowa trick,
has limited legs.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 AM
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15. Evangelicals Make Up 25% Of Pug Voters
Not enough...
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patch1234 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:51 AM
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17. but lots more than that in Iowa .n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:43 AM
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16. The nominees will be McCain and Clinton.
It was decided a long time ago; we just go through the motions of elections, continuing the sham that is supposed to be democracy.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:53 AM
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18. I was surprised, since he lost the state in 2000
But Huckabee has proven himself to be a one-trick pony. Maybe there are fewer "evangelicals" out there than we had thought. And Romney's persona just doesn't work in the deep south.

McCain worries me most as the GOP front runner b/c the media seems to have a love affair with him. The freeper types don't seem to like him now, but I'm sure they'll get in lockstep should he prevail in the primaries.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:38 AM
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19. I thought so too
But it should be noted that if Thompson has not been in the race, most of his votes would have gone to Huckabee. I think he will still do well in FL and any southern Super Tuesday states. But I no longer think it will be good enough for him to win the nomination (altho I'm still not certain of that).

I'm guessing the Huckster will end up a VP for McCain. Which is probably all he aspired to. But that may be the worst possible outcome, since McCain is old and not too healthy.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:38 AM
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20. dupe
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 11:39 AM by Jai4WKC08
sorry
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:41 AM
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21. Yes. It was clear he'd be the nominee after NH.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:45 AM
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22. The evangelicals didn't turn out much
I guess they were afraid of the snow.

50% of those who turned out never attend church, and 28% believed abortion should be legal.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#SCREP
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