Smart politics by the Obama camp: They are minimizing their NV loss

[Colobo]

by pushing the "We won more delegates" meme, which although true, doesn't change the fact that he did lose in NV.

They are creating the impression that Hillary's win is not really a win, and if it is, it is a very close one.

Smart politics by Axelrod & Co.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

1. Not really. They would have been better off to say it was "close." They blew it.

[Unsane]

13. They didn't "blow" anything, except Hillary's momentum away.

[goodgd_yall]

2. It's smart for his supporters

so they don't feel so bad that he lost a second state.

[Colobo]

5. It's smart in the sense that the media

will push the meme by reporting, or even by debunking it. It's perception.

[MADem]

22. The media is saying Obama's WRONG. That's not "good" for him.

The media is saying the NV Dem Party Chair is "correcting" Obama.

[journalist3072]

3. You think their tactic is smart? Says a lot about you, as well as them....Pretty pathetic.

[DJ13]

4. "...Hillary's win is not really a win, and if it is, it is a very close one"

Which is true considering how far behind her he was up until a few weeks back.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. it was very close

and O has 1 more delegate

[rateyes]

7. There will be joy for Obama's supporters after the SC primary.

Obama will kick her butt in SC.

[jackson_dem]

8. They sound like sore losers by doing this

[Evergreen Emerald]

9. But, everyone sees through it except the really really stupid and the drunk

so, how is it smart?

[Colobo]

18. Do you realize what country you live in?

You ask your average American about John Kerry and they will tell you he's an American Idol participant.

People pay little attention to details. They hear soundbytes and read headlines. Perception is everything.

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. so you are suggesting to lie to the American people because they won't know the difference

That Bush mentality is what got us into this mess in the first place

[Colobo]

30. I'm telling you how things are, and why politics relies on half-truths.

Your camp does it. Mine does it. Everyone has done it because they know people only care about what they hear or see, not on what the truth is. Look at Bill Clinton talking about voter supression by the CWU.

[DrFunkenstein]

20. I'm Not Drunk Yet

And I'm sure the stupid is going to wear off one of these days.

[Evergreen Emerald]

34. I find that the drunker I am, the smarter I feel.

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. it is smart politics

the point is to minimize the damage for the next 48 hours, until coverage of South Carolina starts to heat up Monday night after the football games end.

Then it becomes a whole new ballgame, pardon the pun.

[durrrty libby]

11. Olbermann said regarding delegates"The Obama camp is wrong"

That doesn't sound very nice for Obama

[Unsane]

16. Must have wax in your ears. He said no such thing.

He merely said that Clinton's camp was disputing the claim.

[jlake]

12. Only if you like Rovian style politics.

The delegates will NOT be calculated until Feb 23 & NOT by the method that Axelrod claims.

[DURHAM D]

24. Facts - those damn facts. n/t

[ccpup]

14. the more delegates meme is not true

and, as more Nevada State Officials start publicly asking "why is he saying that? we don't decide until April!", he'll look like a sore loser or a bad liar, neither of which is good for inspiring a sense of confidence in one's ability to practice the New Politics of Hope and Change he often speaks of.

It would have been better if he would have congratulated Hillary and moved on to SC.

[MADem]

15. Well, the Democratic Party in NV is saying WTF???

I have no dog in this fight, I have no idea how NV does their halfassed calculations, but here's the latest:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_won_or_did_she.html
Delegate Math: Who Won Nevada?
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UPDATE, 8:15 p.m: Both the chairwoman of the Nevada Democratic Party and a senior adviser for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign are insisting that the contention that Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) won more delegates in today's caucus is incorrect.

"The calculations of national convention delegates being circulated are based upon an assumption that delegate preferences will remain the same between now and April 2008," said Jill Derby, the chairwoman of the state party. "We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."

Howard Wolfson, communications director for Clinton, echoed that sentiment. "Hillary Clinton won the Nevada Caucuses today by winning a majority of the delegates at stake," he said. "The Obama campaign is wrong. Delegates for the national convention will not be determined until April 19."

[ruggerson]

17. Disagree Katz

people much prefer gracious losers in politics.

[Colobo]

21. That's the thing, rugger...

What if Obama never "lost" or didn't quite "lose"...? Perception, brother, perception.

[Barack_America]

19. Just like next Saturday the Clinton camp will minimize their SC loss due to all of those "blacks"

I've no problem with Obama anticipating that move and jumping ahead. Particularly after that classless move on Clinton's part, by claiming a victory in Michigan.

[MADem]

29. Real classy, that comment. Not even subtle.

I hope you aren't supporting Obama--he sure doesn't need that kind of "help." Especially at this stage...

[ElizabethDC]

23. They're certainly trying to minimize it

unclear whether or not it will work yet. Apparently the NV Dem party is calling them on it, so we'll see what happens.

[Colobo]

27. I'm taking a more objective tone now.

It's so close that now I will try to analyze events more, rather than root for my candidate all the time.

[JackORoses]

25. What is the Caucus for, if not to award delegates?

Sure, Obama won't get a big bounce out of it, but neither will Hillary.

I think this is a big thing.

[TomClash]

26. That's probably because their loss is minimal

February 5th is the day.

[LordJFT]

31. He didn't lose

Delegates are the way you win or lose primaries and Obama got more. However losing the popular vote will of course hurt him and give Hillary a minor boost.

[Little Star]

32. Has he congratulated her on her win? nuff said.

[goldcanyonaz]

33. If Clinton had done this, this board would have gone NUTS.

Obama, on the other hand gets cheered on.