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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:34 PM
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Edwards to Stay IN!
Edwards On Nevada Loss: I'm In This Until The End, For The Sake Of Middle Class
By Greg Sargent - January 19, 2008, 6:19PM

As others have noted, one of the big stories of the night is the disappointing finish of John Edwards, who came in with less than 5%. Here's the statement just out from the Edwards campaign, in full:

“Congratulations to Senator Clinton for her win in Nevada. Our campaign is very grateful to all those who demonstrated the loyalty and dedication to stand up for John Edwards in the face of very difficult circumstances and long odds, including our brothers and sisters in Nevada from the Carpenters, Steelworkers, Transport Workers, and Communications Workers of America.

“John Edwards is the underdog in this campaign, facing two $100 million candidates. But that is nothing compared to the real underdogs in our country – working men and women, middle class families, and all those who have no voice in Washington.

“John Edwards is in this race to fight for the real underdogs and to make sure the voices of the American people are heard in Washington, not the special interests. That’s why he’s the only candidate in this race who has never taken a dime from PACs or Washington lobbyists; the only candidate who will ban corporate lobbyists from his White House; and the only candidate who is honest enough to say we are in a fight for our country and we need to take on the special interests if we are going to have a country that works for hard-working families and the middle class.

“The race to the nomination is a marathon and not a sprint, and we’re committed to making sure the voices of all the voters in the remaining 47 states are heard. The nomination won’t be decided by win-loss records, but by delegates, and we’re ready to fight for every delegate. Saving the middle class is going to be an epic battle, and that’s a fight John Edwards is ready for.”

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/edwards_on_nevada_loss_im_in_this_until_the_end_for_the_sake_of_middle_class.php

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:35 PM
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1. no congratulations to Obama?
seems like Obama might have taken some of Edwards' union support


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:38 PM
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6. Congratulations go to the WINNER
You don't generally do a laundry list, unless you're making a larger point. I'm sure when he drafted his concession speech, he left a blank where the winner's name would go.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:39 PM
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10. That was released a few hours ago befor the delegate thing came up
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:59 PM
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20. People are afraid of Clinton. But they should NOT abandon Edwards. WORST tactic.
Obama could still lose if it becomes a race between just him and Clinton. Edwards people MUST continue to support John to give him as many delegates as possible. With enough delegates, Edwards can support Obama at the convention giving John some clout in the party platform.

This assumes that neither Clinton or Obama do not implode before the convention. In that case, Obama supporters could work with Edwards to make John the nominee.

The biggest mistake in 2004, was the party insiders anointing Kerry the nominee, and thus cutting off the excitement, and free publicity, for the Democratic party. Let's not repeat this disaster in 2008. Keep supporting John Edwards to the very end.

Obama supporters: Don't try to take away Edward's supporters for Barack. This could hurt Obama. This would definitely help Clinton.

If you haven't guessed, I am an ABC Democrat. If she is the Democratic nominee, we could wind up with another Republican president in 2008. This would be a disaster for this country, which is already headed down a slippery slope thanks to the Republican party. All Republicans share blame for the Iraq war, the collapsing economy, the disintegrating environment. We cannot afford to hand over control to yet another Republican.

Another danger of a Clinton candidacy. She could bring out the right-wing in force just to oppose her, and lose Congress to Republican majorities down the line.

This is a real danger and Democrats MUST support Edwards all the way to the convention.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:33 AM
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39. Look,.. I am an Obama supporter....
I think my first preference now would be Edwards but I don't think he can stop Hillary...which is why I am sticking with Obama. The only way I see of anyone taking her down is if Edwards were to drop out and fully throw his weight behind Obama... but that isn't going to happen. With Edwards running in the 3-4% range he won't be getting any delegates for the convention. I personally feel the best bet for ABC dems is to support Obama...but I kinda think it is too late even for Obama to win.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:36 PM
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2. Thank you
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:37 PM
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3. He Is Just SO Wonderful!
Words fail me!
And that's unusual!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:48 PM
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13. He is wonderful and we are so lucky to be given a candidate
that will stand up and fight for our constitution.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:50 PM
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15. I'm Still Saying My Novena!
This is my 4th day!
NEVER SURRENDER!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:37 PM
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4. I bet his tune changes after SC if he comes in 3rd again
Theres a lot of heavy hitters in the Democratic Party that wont want him to become a spoiler for Obama.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:38 PM
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7. Ain't That a Shame!
If you could see me now I have a tear in my eye!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:38 PM
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8. I'll bet it doesn't n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:38 PM
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9. His staff as much as told Bob Schieffer that they'd reevaluate if they weren't strong in SC. NT
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:55 PM
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17. Obama is his own spoiler
Wait and see, it's coming, and when it does, I hope it's before he wins the nomiation because when the shit hits the fan, the republicans will be the winners, and that's what I don't want to see!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:11 PM
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29. No, I don't think it will.
I think he will stay in regardless of what happens in South Carolina. He is going to continue debating, raising his issues and forcing the other candidates to speak to his agenda.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:37 PM
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5. I'm hoping for a brokered convention...
that would be FUN FUN FUN.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:41 PM
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11. I'm not. I don't care to listen to GOP asshats telling us how we're divided. NT
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:45 PM
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12. We are divided, and a brokered convention might help
us coalesce around a popular darkhorse candidate that can beat the pants off the Republicans.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:01 PM
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23. Oh, please. How many posts have you seen here that petulantly state
that the poster will vote GREEN rather than vote for "Fill in the Blank, Usually Clinton But Not Exclusively."

We don't need any more excitement or division, and a brokered convention will only pick someone that EVERYONE HATES...but only a LITTLE.

A brokered convention will suck. You want excitement, pray for a brokered convention on the GOP side.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:49 PM
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14. Me neither. But we won't like what GOP asshats have to say in any event.
If we're united behind a candidate early on, they'll be swiftboating him or her like nobody's business. So, like, whatever.

:hi:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:03 PM
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24. You respond to Swiftboating by RESPONDING. Not staying above the fray and 'hoping' it goes away.
They bring a knife, we bring a gun.

We've learned.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:50 AM
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35. You're spot-on.
And that's why I always caution against letting our course be influenced by fear of being slimed. The hell with the switfboatliars. Nuke'em with the truth and keep moving.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:53 PM
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16. I hope he stays in.
:thumbsup:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:57 PM
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18. What the hell for? Stay in for what? This is embarrasing. Maybe
he will see a ufo too.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:59 PM
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19. Embarassing for who? You?
Not for me. He has every right to be there.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:05 PM
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26. So did Biden, Dodd, etc. But they showed some pride.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:11 PM
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30. So? That was their choice. Edwards' choice is to stay in.
I see nothing wrong with that.

And it has nothing to do with pride, IMO.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:21 PM
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32. Well, in my opinion it is embarrassing. Richardson has more
elegance in his little toe.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:26 PM
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33. Then let us agree to disagree.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:01 PM
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22. Ask Bill Clinton
Not only did he lose fix primaries in a row before winning, he faced a late challenge from Jerry Brown. Clinton did not win a majority of delegates until the final primary in California.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:00 PM
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21. Thank God. People need a voice since the country has been hi-jacked by corporations
and their lapdogs!
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:06 PM
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47. down the corporate media!
.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:03 PM
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25. K&R
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:09 PM
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27. I'm sticking with Edwards.
He is the best candidate. Hillary and Obama have some serious problems, especially Obama. I congratulate the Hillary supporters, but I believe in doing what is right even when it is not popular. That's the way I was raised. Edwards is our best candidate. I agree with him on all the issues.

Obama is not a true progressive. Hillary takes money from corporate lobbyists. In other words, they are just same old, same old. I do not think either Obama or Hillary can be elected. And if they are, I would give them maximum one term. They are phonies. The Republican slam machine will do them in.

If you want a winner, you still have time to get behind Edwards. He has changed his mind on a couple of issues. But I like that. It shows he is flexible, that he can admit mistakes, that he is decides based on the evidence and responds appropriately when presented with new evidence. I have no problem with that. I have a tremendous problem with Hillary's inability to admit her mistakes.

Obama needs to take the time to learn what it is to be a progressive. He clearly does not understand it. He is by no means ready. I assure you that the statements in his book about Reagan and the "excesses of the '60s and '70s" will turn off many of us older, normally staunch Democrats to the point that we will simply stay home. What is the use in voting for candidates like Hillary and Obama. They do not speak for me. They do not speak for the American middle class. They are mouthpieces for the corporate elite just like GWB. What is the difference?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:09 PM
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28. Good, he has earned my vote.
Edwards 2008!!!
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:12 PM
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31. Well of course he is!
John Edwards said he was in this for the long haul, and he is a man of his word. I had no doubt.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:22 AM
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34. Good. Now, start visiting other states that have not seen
a candidate but that will vote Feb. 5th like... Minnesota.

Just visiting and meeting with supporters will generate news and will get you in the local media for free. All it will cost you is a plane ticket, two, if you bring Elizabeth.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:04 AM
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36. good
I like Edwards, good for him for continuing the good fight. Don't let those hillary supporters tear you down.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:08 AM
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37. I hope he finishes second in South Carolina
to make it look really bad for Hillary to finish third. Then he needs to get out of the race.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:09 AM
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38. Yessssssss!
I will stay with him as long as he stays in the race. :woohoo:
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:28 AM
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40. It's early days and the vast majority of Americans have NOT had the opportunity to be heard
I am really tired of people suggesting that Edwards should drop out this early on because they have decided that it is over. It's his right to stay in and it's my right to stay with him.

I am looking forward to his continuing presence in the debates. I am looking forward to casting my ballot for him .
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:31 PM
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41. As long as he's in, I'm in with him. K & R (n/t)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:30 PM
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42. The GRAVEST threat to America and democracy....
is the Corporate Control of our government!

I will support Edwards and Kucincih TO THE FUCKING END as long as they keep telling this truth to America.

And I agree, this is embarassing to those candidates who are Corporate Puppets!.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:01 PM
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44. Me Too!
My , but you look familiar!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:00 PM
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43. Of course. nt
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:47 AM
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45. I love that man!
and I'm counting on him to keep fighting!

"The race to the nomination is a marathon and not a sprint, and we’re committed to making sure the voices of all the voters in the remaining 47 states are heard. The nomination won’t be decided by win-loss records, but by delegates, and we’re ready to fight for every delegate. Saving the middle class is going to be an epic battle, and that’s a fight John Edwards is ready for.”
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:03 AM
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46. John is no Quitter!
Neither am I!
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