Hillary Clinton won, Barack Obama lost, its that simple.

[MadBadger]

We all know right now delegates are really not what is important. It is the press and the headlines that matters here, and Hillary won the caucus because she had more support in Nevada, that simple.

Id like to offer my own congratulations to the Clinton supporters who have shown the decency to not become sore winners. REally I congratulate all of you except for maybe 1 or 2 DUers. I know we've had our strong disagreements over the past 48 hours, but I just want to say congrats on a good victory and its off to South Carolina, may the best candidate win.

[NastyRiffraff]

1. Thanks to a sane and gracious Obama supporter

I don't support either Clinton or Obama, but this is a refreshing post, given all the Obama "we won Nevada! No really!" posts.

[musicblind]

24. I LOVE that picture of John Edwards

I'm saving to my computer if you don't mind :)

[NastyRiffraff]

33. Not at all...I stole it, too.

[niceypoo]

45. I admit, I was floored to see an Obama bumpersticker by the posters name

Most Obama supporters (or at least the most vocal ones on this board ) tend to react to every setback with hysterical, vicious, attacks. This is quite refreshing.

[opihimoimoi]

2. I have to agree.....Dispite strong union backing for Obama...She won...

Its so revealing......

[Barack_America]

5. But the backing of everything else was in her favor. Reid's son is with her..

campaign. Trust me, it's a testament that Obama came this close.

[MadBadger]

6. I agree

He was down a lot a long time ago. She still won though and Obama lost. But I honestly believe this was a good showing for him.

[jackson_dem]

15. Obama had the newspapers in his favor, including the Vegas and Reno ones

[MadBadger]

16. That isnt true though

She had the Vegan Sun. He had a conservative rag and Reno. but she had the influential newspaper. Though Iowa may have proven that those papers dont mean a thing.

[jackson_dem]

19. He had the two biggest newspapers in the state

[MadBadger]

21. Reno journal Gazette is bigger than the Las Vegan Sun?

I dont know, I'm asking. And again, the Review Journal is a big time conservative rag that in its endorsement shat on Obama, but shat on Hillary just a little more.

[TankLV]

26. The Sun is only mildly more "liberal" but it is also only a "supplement" to the RJ now...

The RJ prints both papers and the Sun is just a "section" in the RJ on weekends now...it was in danger of folding entirely a few years back if not for this "arrangement"...

the RJ never met a repuke and right wing asshole it didn't like - STRONG "WAR Criminal" supporter...

Even tho the Sun's Owner Brian Greenspun says he's a repuke - he's a strong supporter of the Clintons and Democratic causes - go figure...

[MadBadger]

28. I still don't think papers matter.

[jackson_dem]

27. I think that was the hype I think when the endorsement came out

Or maybe it said it was the paper for the second largest city. I don't remember for sure. What is clear is Obama had the backing of most newspapers and had a rapid-fire of establishment endorsements come to him after New Hampshire, including Kerry.

[MadBadger]

30. I think ultimately she had too big of a lead for Obama to overcome

And Edwards...well I dont know. My original prediction was Clinton winning 37-35-28. Edwards just shocked me.

[IndianaJones]

3. is this an honest assessment? nt.

[MadBadger]

4. Yep

I take pride that he has those delegates, but she won.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. You're wrong hnmnf. The entire purpose of the caucus was to award delegates

Obama will be able to spin this into a win.

[Name removed]

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[TankLV]

34. Wolsh has a point - stop arguing past each other...

and I voted for Hillary...

[MadBadger]

35. How did you respond to a deleted message?

[TankLV]

38. It was magic - it suddenly changed to "deleted" just as I posted!

For once I caught it in time!

But now I can't remember what the poster exactly said - all of their 6 posts before they went "poof"!

Needless to say it was argumentative and not very good - but I don't remember thinking that it was particularly offensive - must have been deleted for something ELSE said down thread...

[MadBadger]

12. No he will not, and hed do himself better not to do so.

Id agree with you on Feb 5th, that delegates are more important, but in these early races, its all about momentum taking you into Feb 5th. Even though he may have won more delegates, she has the MO, though I think it will stop in SC.

[ElizabethDC]

8. Thanks hnmnf, it's very gracious of you to say that

not just to realize it, but to say it. Yes, she won, and the media is going to count it as a win, and it's the momentum that matters at this point.

Besides, I think most considered that Hillary had come in third in Iowa, even though she technically had one more delegate than Edwards. :shrug:

[dkf]

9. Yeah and Gore won but we all know how that went.

[jillan]

11. hnmnf - you are one of the good guys at DU.

:)

[jlake]

13. Thank you for such an honest assessment. Rare from anyone on DU.

[MadBadger]

25. Sure thing. FOr the msot part I give it as I see

Except when Im being sarcastic....which I'm not.

[cali]

14. you are right

and gracious too. I'm glad that we support the same candidate.

[MadBadger]

22. As am I.

[Clintonista2]

17. K&R, thank you for being gracious. There's like one or two fringe DUers saying Clinton lost

And they are the same posters who claimed that Clinton rigged NH.

[MadBadger]

18. Now if we can just get you to stop using fired up and ready to go.

I promise I wont steal 35 years. Obama was 11.

[Clintonista2]

20. LMFAO

[TankLV]

23. I'm glad I went - I came back LIKING Obama supporters - a LOT!

It sure opened my eyes...especially in light of the nastier posts here in the past few weeks...

The media whores are gonna be damn surprised at our UNITY as this process progresses!!!

[GalleryGod]

49. Tank! Listen up, Friend! DU posters have little to do with Real World Politics.

If ther are HERE then they are NOT helping their candidates.

We vets call them "Keyboard Kommandos"

[ruggerson]

29. Are you going to come back with another post in five minutes saying this one is bullshit?

:)

[MadBadger]

31. Nope. It would be pretty stupid to come back and say, "facts are wrong, I was BSing"

These are the facts. Id like it if they were different, but such is life. Though i did expect this.

[THUNDER HANDS]

32. well, actually, what matters is who spins this best

both candidates can technically claim a victory.

[sniffa]

37. Pretty much.

Remember Iowa? And New Hampshire? More than one clamp claimed some sort of victory.

[sniffa]

36. Listening to the MSM

Right now, it seems to be saying that Obama won. The current theme that were watching now, is that Obama won the most delegates.

I'm excited for tomorrow's Sunday paper and shows, to see what the dominant theme is. :popcorn:

[Cha]

41. I'll bet you are...pretty

exciting stuff what the media can dream up for us to suit their latest agenda.

[MadBadger]

44. Its always about their agenda.

[JackORoses]

39. is this another one of your trick threads?

You have to admit this throws a severe kink in Hillary's celebration festivities,
and is likely to diminish any Momentum she might have gained.

This delegate count is what people will be talking about because it is an oddity.

[MadBadger]

40. I'm done with the trick threads

Im actually surprised that the MSM is covering it this way. KO seems to be running with this theme, Tweety, not so much.

[JackORoses]

42. thanks, you had me with that last one.

Just watch.
They won't be saying "Hillary won Nevada" for a week
They will be saying "Obama gets more delegates?"

That's much more controversial. You know how they roll.

[MadBadger]

43. And in the end...that will be fine by me.

What can I say? I'm a bitter partisan.

[Pachamama]

46. Yeah and Hillary will win the nomination and lose the General Election...

...it's that simple and I'm sickened already realizing where things are headed....

[DemCam]

47. She'll win...and it will be a surprise...just as it is here....now.

[MadBadger]

48. Is it really a surprise that she won?

[MercerForPrez]

50. I am surprised

that Lee Mercer, Jr. did not meet viability threshold in many areas.

[BootinUp]

51. thanks

your gracious post is appreciated. :)

[MercerForPrez]

53. Clark supporters should have been more chary

before following their leader to Hillary's camp, Jim. The military teaches one to follow orders -- don't think, just shoot!; a kind of mentality not palatable for politics.

[BootinUp]

55. I have been a Clinton fan

for a long time. You're jumping to assumptions and just hurling insults. :thumbsdown:

[rufus dog]

52. Agreed, she won

Regardless of the delegate count she received more votes and won. Moral victories are for losers! Sorry fellow Obama supporters but anything else is just spin.

[Hobarticus]

54. This post is EXACTLY why I come to DU...

Excellent post!