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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:02 PM
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ave "Latte Liberals" managed to shut out Working Class Democrats Again?
Will the working class EVER be represented by the Democratic Party Again?
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:03 PM
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1. Aren't latte liberals voting barack over hillary?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:18 PM
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12. Yes they are but don't confuse them with the facts
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:38 PM
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24. Only the ones under 45 =)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:56 PM
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39. Yes, that seems to be the trend
Not sure who the O/P is referring to though? Edwards?
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:03 PM
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2. I'm pretty sure that "latte liberals" work, too.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:06 PM
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4. the one's I know hang at the Country Club
that's what I see/
except for the College Profs.who dwell in academia.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:58 PM
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41. Narrow minded stereotyping is so foolish!
What planet are you from?
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:04 PM
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3. Class prejudice cuts both ways.
You seem to resent people who like to drink coffee. As if they're not as good as you or they're not people. They work, too, or don't they matter? As if they're the callous rich? Get real.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:07 PM
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5. the rich ARE Callous, because they don't HAVE TO WORRY EVERY DAY
and class warfare is waged from the top down!
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:08 PM
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6. Exactly. There is nothing wrong with being successful.
What is wrong is using the taxpayer to give corporate subsidies/contracts to supporters (thank you Republicans).
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:54 PM
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50. That's Right !
And John Edwards Is a PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AMERICAN SUCCESS STORY!
A Crusading Lawyer ,like something out of a John Grisham novel!
Standing up to Corporate America!
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:41 PM
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25. Exactly. Thank you. n/t
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:08 PM
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7. Its trendy for the "latte liberals" in the cocktail circuit to support Obama.
Its the working and middle class Democratic base that is breaking for Hillary.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:09 PM
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8. Working class Democrats are voting for Hillary Clinton
They are not shut out.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:17 PM
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11. With the Rupert Murdoch photo ops and the close ties to Wal Mart?
really?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:38 PM
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23. for whatever reason it was, they voted for her and she won Nevada
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:47 PM
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26. Do You REALLY Think She can win Nationally?
I don't.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:21 PM
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55. I think she's got a better chance than anyone else in the race
It's just a given that the Repubs will smear our nominee. They are very good at it.

Our only chance is someone who can fight back effectively, and who isn't afraid to go on the offense. Hillary knows what she's doing. She'll do as well as anyone can.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:31 PM
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56. I am uncomfortable with her connections to people frankly consider to be evil
Rupert Murdoch, Sam Walton!
UGGH!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:10 PM
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9. Are you talking about liberals who live in big-ass houses with indoor recreation facilities...
...who get $400 haircuts?
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:19 PM
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13. Edwards is a poor kid made good, Obama has land problems of his ownand ther
isn't much you can do for his hair he hardly has any!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:29 PM
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20. Right, so you shouldn't stereotype people for drinking lattes and having money. n/t
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:36 PM
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21. can't wait for the scandal to break on OBAMA!
you are now blocked Buh bye.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:38 PM
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22. WAIT! WAIT! Before you put me on ignore...
...made you look.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:01 PM
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43. He put me on ignore after I asked him a simple question
This person is a troll, plain and simple.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:21 PM
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15. That's uncalled for...
WTF does that have to do with anything? As an Edwards supporter that's insulting and completely unnecessary, I wish we could get over these kind of low ball attacks. Now, although I support Edwards, I will have no problem supporting the eventual nominee, whoever that may be, in the GE. Can you do that?
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:22 PM
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16. no you didn't use the $400 haircut horseshit
he paid the guy $400 because he had to wait around and he missed his other appointments. Edwards did the right thing and made the money up to the guy.

Don't do that shit. That's for the Republicans.

We're the people that show more class than the Republicans. Remember?

Please keep it real, people
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:24 PM
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18. ...
:spray:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:15 PM
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10. For me the question is..
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 06:19 PM by stillcool47
Did they ever? I need to freshen up on some reality..
There's an online library that offers out of print books for free download such as..
The Rich and the Super Rich -Lundberg, Ferdinand. New York: Lyle Stewart, 1968.
Shows with overwhelming evidence who rules and specifically how they rule. Although decades have passed since this book was written and the individuals have changed, the families in power haven't changed. This book allows someone with perceptiveness to look through the news, peek behind distractions of current events and see what probably is really happening. OUT OF PRINT
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/0303socialcriticism.html


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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:20 PM
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14. Will the working class EVER vote for your candidate?
Maybe working class voters gets to vote for who they want.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:35 PM
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46. I REGISTER PEOPLE TO VOTE EVERY DAY....
And they would vote for "my candidate " if we got to hold our Primary 1st!
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:23 PM
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17. Lets not divide the party with that kind of talk
I am an Obama supporter and will never vote for Hillary, not even if she is running against Romney!!!

(I will stay home that day)


But.... that type of talk is uncalled for. Attack the Clintons, not the people who exercised their right to vote for the candidate of their choice.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:27 PM
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19. BAH!
you ain't no John Lennon.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:30 PM
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30. You're no Guy Fawkes
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:09 PM
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45. And HOw Would You Know That???
Remember the end of the film" All the People in their "V" capes and hats and Guy Fawkes masks! WE ARE ALL "V" if we choose to be!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:02 PM
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27. Don't you mean the "Hollywood Liberals"?
I'll drink a latte from time to time. I drink beer sometimes too. And I've even had a glass of milk before. Two days ago I drank water by accident. But guess what? I was voting Dem long before there was a Starbucks on the corner.

BTW, what exactly do "Working Class Democrats" drink? Chardonnay or Merlot? Earl Grey Tea? Just wondering.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:17 PM
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28. potato / potahto
it's all one.
They are the ones who don't have to work everyday, worry about paying doctor bills, house payments car payments.
6 figure incomes and up!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:28 PM
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29. You mean a Republican? nt
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:31 PM
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31. I Mean a "Social Liberal" and a "fiscal" Conservative.
There are lots of them!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM
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32. Define fiscal conservative
Do you mean fiscally conservative, ie balance the budget, don't waste money on "bridges to nowhere" etc, or do you mean fiscally conservative, ie cut taxes and social programs so that all that's left is money for wars?

The second one would be bad, the first one is not so bad.

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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:47 PM
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34. Sure.
know how the Federal Reserve decides how much the bloated excess $$$ of the wealthy is worth.
The Fed chairman decides on interest rates. They chairmen have seldom changed when the office of the Presidency has changed hands from carter to reagan, from Bush I to Clinton.

This speaks volumes as to how working class Americans will live. Clinton and Carter did less to help the working class than Nixon did . Middle Class incomes have not increased in REAL Dollars since the 1970's!

Read Paul Krugman, William Grieder, Kevin Phllips.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:51 PM
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35. I've read Krugman and Phillips
But not Grieder.

So which president did the most for the working class during the last 50 years and how?
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:57 PM
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40. Lydon Johnson
War ON POVERTY,Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights,National Endowment for the Arts and well, lets see...

* 1964: Civil Rights Act of 1964
* 1964: Urban Mass Transportation Act of 1964
* 1964: Wilderness Act
* 1964: Nurse Training Act
* 1964: Food Stamp Act of 1964
* 1964: Economic Opportunity Act
* 1965: Higher Education Act of 1965
* 1965: Social Security Act of 1965
* 1965: Voting Rights Act
* 1965: Immigration and Nationality Services Act of 1965
* 1967: Age Discrimination in Employment Act
* 1967: Public Broadcasting Act of 1967
* 1968: Bilingual Education Act
* 1968: Fair housing Act

That enough?
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:59 PM
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42. Whew. I was afraid you would pick a Republican
You'd already eliminated every other Democratic president of the last half century.

But didn't he have the largest government in history until Reagan and then Bush Jr beat his record?
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:05 PM
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44. If I Were To Choose a REPUBLICAN My Union Organizer Grandfather Would Rise From His Grave And Come
For ME!
Look, Big Government is here to stay, The QUESTION IS WHOM WILL IT SERVE??
The Privileged few or the MANY?
I Vote for the many!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:46 PM
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33. Oh wait. I forgot to ask- are you attacking social liberals or fiscal conservatives? nt
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:51 PM
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36. Both
BLESS THE CHILD OF A WORKING MAN!
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:53 PM
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37. I'm a Green Tea Progressive for...
... a ban on those Peach and Citrus flavored Green Teas- they are nasty.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:41 PM
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47. I like Peach Tea
there is some in my fridge now!
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:57 PM
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52. Peach Tea is an abomination.
Its worse then those big marshmallow peanuts that are banana flavored.

Peaches are great and green tea is great but ne'er the twain shall meet.

I have spoken.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:59 PM
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53. A Peach Tea Separatist, Eh?
I may have to report you to my support group!
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:54 PM
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38. LOL
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:48 PM
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48. Is That a Self Portrait?.
.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:53 PM
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49. No, that would be you, sweetums.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 08:53 PM by Chovexani
Are you the model that comes with the magic jewel in the belly? I love those!
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:56 PM
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51. Actually I'm quite sure it more resembles you.
You are much more like something that would lurk beneath abridge and frighten small children and now you join the ignore list.
bu bye!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:00 PM
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54. "latte liberals"is a RW slur/meme with no place on DU
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:33 PM
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57. I Disagree
But Then I'm not one.
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:35 PM
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58. But You Can Call Me An Environmental Wacko if it makes you feel any better!
:-)
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