Why did Hillary only beat Obama by 6%?

[jenmito]

I recall Hillary being up by about 20% or more. What happened?

[ursi]

1. it's not done yet ...89% reporting ...

[jenmito]

5. It won't change by much-if at all. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

62. she won by about 400 votes!

[ellisonz]

2. Name ID can only carry you so far.

[jenmito]

8. True. n/t

[rox63]

3. Obama did very well in the last few weeks

He caught up quite a bit.

[jenmito]

15. True. And he did better than predicted by all the final polls but one. n/t

[William769]

4. Is this the new meme of the day?

What happened in N.H.?

What happened to the Cullinary union?

You really need to move on. :eyes:

[Tropics_Dude83]

13. Movements need victories

Movements need victories. This is 2 losses in a row now for Obama. Losing by 2 or losing by 6 is still a loss. Obama's whole campaign was predicated on winning Iowa, slingshotting into New Hampshire and winning there. That's fallen apart.

And actually a 6 point win is pretty impressive.

[Samantha]

That was the media spin on Obama's plan

Hillary took Nevada because of the Reid influence over the state and because of the casino's determination she would take it.

This election is really telling Democrats a lot about the true character of its major players. Not that long ago on this website, people were recoiling against the Dems supporting that resolution Bush requested regarding preemptive war on Iraq. Not that long ago on this website, people were recoiling against the Dems who refused to stand up to Bush* and confront him for his war mongering. In retrospect, as the players now openly fall in line behind their candidates, it's very easy to see why each of these politicians played their hands as they did, while giving lip service only to the cries of the base.

It's a familiar inside-the-Beltway refrain when truly taking the measure of a politician, don't listen to what he or she says, watch what he or she does.

If there's one excellent lesson to be absorbed as this campaign unfolds, it is that of remembering what our leaders have told us in the recent past compared to where they are actually playing their political chips in this election. Very revealing indeed. Shame on you, Harry Reid. No wonder you would not take a position on impeaching Bush* -- you could not do so without clouding the political future of your personal 2008 favorite.

[jenmito]

21. It's not a meme. It's a fact. You saw the polls just like we all did.

I AM moving on-to S.C.

[William769]

26. Doesn't sound like your moving on at all.

But thanks for avoiding everything I pointed out to you.

[jenmito]

31. I can roll and chew gum at the same time...

What happened in NH was Hillary's "tearing up."

What happened with the CWU was many of the members already made up their minds before the late endorsement.

[William769]

37. What really happens was and yes this is the bottom line is.

Obama lost!

[jenmito]

40. He lost by one delegate. Now they're tied. n/t

[William769]

41. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!

:rofl:

[jenmito]

47. Not true. The delegates are divided up and now they're tied.

[William769]

50. Hate to burst your bubble but they are not tied.

On EDIT yes i am counting Super Delagates untill that number changes you will just have to live with it.

[goldcanyonaz]

6. Can't we Clinton supporters just have one nice day after winning?

Or, is that really too much to ask?

[Clintonista2]

10. To me this is a nice day. I love watching the whiners cry.

[Bodhi BloodWave]

44. Depends, can Obama supporters have just once nice

day after your candidate's win without Clinton supporters gloating?

[Laurab]

52. I would like to congratulate the Clinton supporters .

I'm an Obama supporter - it's difficult to offer congratulations after seeing all the nonsense threads that have already popped up, but to the reasonable Clinton supporters - "Congratulations"!

[grantcart]

7. Obama moved 20 points

I am jealous and congratulations

[jenmito]

33. True...

and thanks. :hi:

[grantcart]

43. your welcome

now its all on Obama's shoulders I just hope he dosen't fuck it up. But he is a very smart cool guy. Actually the result could end up being the worst possible for HRC. Many Edwards supporters will now peel off. She inherits the problematic front runner status and any movment by Obama will be exaggerated in terms of momentum. Any win will be an upset. For the Clintons no more triangulation.

[jenmito]

48. Good points...

You're probably right.

[mitchtv]

9. One percent is enough.

California's coming up

[jenmito]

36. Not really...

they are tied in delegates. And yes, CA is coming up.

[KennedyGuy]

11. Last I heard the Culinary workers were supposed to provide an Obama upset..

call for the whaaaaaambulance...

[davidwparker]

19. it shows the gaming industry, who was behind Hillary, was more of a

factor in the outcome.

[jenmito]

38. I agree. n/t

[jenmito]

27. The gaming unions were for Hillary.

No, last I heard the endorsement was too late and union members already decided on Hillary.

[davidwparker]

12. Hillary has had a lot of name recognition. Obama is showing he is viable.

[suston96]

14. Why only 6 points? Because she promised Zogby.

[joeybee12]

16. I reacll polls showing Obama up...

...so why did he lose????

[jenmito]

42. I saw him winning in one poll by 2%.

[joeybee12]

49. Caucuses are hard to predict...and I think the nature of them

means they should be abolished...

[goodgd_yall]

17. Wasn't the 20% lead quite a while back?

A 6% lead is a decent one.

[tritsofme]

18. If that's what it takes to make you feel better about the results.

Then by all means indulge yourself.

[no name no slogan]

20. To get to the other side?

:shrug:

[Clintonista2]

23. LMFAO

You're on a roll today.

[no name no slogan]

30. I blame the Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three)

And Jeb Bush is all in my house with disease.

[Herman Munster]

22. Edwards unviables

Entrance poll had Edwards with 11% support and the results have Edwards with 4% of delegates. His mostly unviables went to Obama.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. Let's Celebrate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFCnvH2E-6A&feature=related

[Herman Munster]

32. lol

it's great, now on to south carolina, if she can get to within 3 or 4% of obama, that will be a huge win.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Salu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q7mjoxHzm4

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. If Edwards Totally Collapses She Can Pull SC Out

Then it's "turn off the lights" time...

If I was an Obama supporter I'd be really, really concerned...

[jenmito]

51. That's good news for Obama. n/t

[mtnsnake]

24. Why did Hillary win by so much?

[jenmito]

53. She won by less than almost every poll showed.

[mtnsnake]

55. wahhhHH

[ecstatic]

25. They say the culinary endorsement turned things around nt

[DJ13]

28. Why by such a small %?

Bill started gettin pissy, turned off a lot of those who earlier had told pollsters they were going to vote for Hillary.

[jenmito]

54. Then I hope he keeps that up. n/t

[bigwillq]

34. A win is a win

:)

[Bumblebee]

35. Oh, no, must mean she is a terrible candidate and Romney will beat

her by 20% in the GE!!!!:sarcasm:

I switched from Edwards to being undecided and then to a very lukewarm supporter of Clinton within the last three months or so. Now I am a strong supporter of her. The difference? Some of it stems from the posts of (mostly) Obama supporters here. BTW, when it looked like Obama may win both Iowa and NH, and Clinton would fade away, I was quite content to rally behind him, support him as our nominee, and work my butt off for him.

[boston bean]

46. The fix was in they frauded hillary out of the other 14% so it would

look like obama was still viable.

:eyes:

[MagsDem]

59. That's what I think as well (n/t)

[loveangelc]

56. lol NV is pretty irrelevant imo.

I guess Hillary could find it a victory but I don't really think it will matter. Only 10,000 people even caucused.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

57. I think Obama is doing very well considering!

[MagsDem]

58. Because the crooked CWU system...

Gave Obama an unfair advantage. They were the only workers in the state that could vote from work. I'm sure the CWU paid off the state party well, but it still wasn't enough to carry the day.

Never have been crazy about Obama, but now I hope he gets his butt kicked royally on Super Tuesday. He's unqualified, and his campaign is just crooked as far as I'm concerned. He plays from the Rovian book of campaigning... all down and dirty, behind the scenes, happy to see voter intimidation of union members, not saying a word against it. And of course, desperate attempts to pretend that the nasty tactics are not being approved by him, but by surrogates he can't control instead. Reminds me of Bush and the Swift Boat vets.

[jlake]

60. Meh. Obama is toast and should drop out.

[MethuenProgressive]

61. Obama's arttempt at Casino voter intimidation backfired.

Hispanics aren't as dumb as ObamaNation Hoped they were.

[Yuugal]

63. Hold me, Shillbot

I feel sick to my stomach populism can't even get a 5% vote in a dem primary. Tell me again the wonders of the breasted dlc candidate, because the guy channeling Raygun totally lost me as a second choice. Sigh.