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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:08 PM Original message |
A memo to William Jefferson Clinton, from those of us with a memory |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. RE point 2 (and I know I'll regret this) |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Of course his behavior was worse |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
117. The only reason we still think highly of JFK is that the MSM didn't |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
136. and yet we all know about the JFK peccadillo's and still love him. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #117 |
154. Some of us still think highly of JFK. Some of us know the |
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rch35 (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #154 |
249. This is just to clarify. |
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LaloBorges (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
150. Has anyone here read part of the Ken Starr report? |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #150 |
162. differance between free love and cheating on your spouse. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. But it should be none of our business. That's why so much of the world |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #165 |
185. yeah--the world laughed at us cause Repugs made a fed. case of it. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #165 |
186. he knew he was set to a different standard by the idiots that had |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. Well, you're right that Hillary is the one in charge now. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #189 |
196. how naive. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #196 |
199. Spoken like a sexist. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #196 |
202. How sexist can you be?! |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #202 |
231. again i say, naive. nt |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #202 |
242. Well said - but NBC and PBS and ABC had "panels" selling Obama w/ can't control Bill = weak |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
152. Their behavior was JUST AS BAD as his, and therefore |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
190. Did you forget something... |
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irishgrl (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
241. I hope you're being tongue in cheek |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Media coverage, without question. |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. you do realize, right |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Sounds more like fanatical partisanship |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. what is partisan about it? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
132. When it comes to corporatism, Obama leaves her in the dust. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
156. It is what mortally flaws Bill. His ego. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Some of us remember, however, that Gary Hart LOST his bid because of his sexual thumbing his nose at |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
205. No, that perception isn't correct. Hart's problem was the WaPo, not the Miami Herald. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Of course he was no worse. That is not the point - what the media did |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Dems can't blame the media for everything |
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muyojoe (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
79. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
146. Evribody knows....evribody knows |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #79 |
194. Lot's of folk likes to get them a little hummer now and then. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
84. Yeah they can and in spades. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
138. On the other hand - can you imagine the reaction if the head of a major |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #138 |
155. yeah hedgehog as if that is not happening all the time in a consensual citation. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:18 PM Original message |
So..... you're saying that Clinton took advantage of a kid with an emotional problem? nt |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
246. Yes you are correct. He took advantage of a little girl skipping around the oval |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
109. A corollary to your point - Clinton was still very popular at the end of his presidency. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #109 |
134. Yes and I was one of his biggest supporters |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #109 |
235. The only possible advantage Clinton could have been is that Arkansas |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
120. The latter |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
137. Warren G. Harding is remembered mainly for having sex in the closet with Nan Briton. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
182. To me it doesn't matter. He did it in the media saturation age, among |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
191. No, probably not. However, the circumstances were. EVERYTHING Clinton did was under a microscope. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
201. Point 2 and 3 are garbage. Clinton got the right wing media treatment and Nader |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
215. My gut reaction exactly. The Clinton witch hunt was an invasion of privacy... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
227. We shouldn't have had to pay for his sins. I think that's the point. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
236. My memo: Loved you then and still do! |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Remember the center piece of Clinton's '92 campaign: the middle class tax cut? |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
195. Yepum, can't wait to get me some of that GW tax cut. Those credit card bills are eating me alive. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
210. He reneged on allowing Haitian refugees to seek assylum as well |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #210 |
218. Paul Tsongas and others called it pandering to voters. Tsongas won New Hampshire. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Points 1 and 2 are a little questionable since . . . |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. And, Clinton was re-elected AFTER everyone know about him cheating |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. Not correct. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I remember people trying to talk me out of voting for him the second time |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
139. January 1992 is when Gennifer Flowers hit the tabloids. Clinton won the 1992 presidential election, |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #75 |
203. Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones, remember them? |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
86. that is true but he didn't win the landslide necessary to beat |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
157. If it hadn't been for Bill Clinton Gore could have actually |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. If Gore had not thumbed his nose at Clinton he would have won. |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #163 |
180. Good to see that some aren't rewriting history... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #163 |
183. Gore snubbed his nose at the DLC-he rejected the corporatists to become a populist |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #163 |
211. That will be debated for years to come |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #157 |
240. Sorry, El Toro PooPoo. If not for the voter disenfranchisement, voter caging, |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
239. THANK YOU!!! And when you factor in ALL THE DIRTY ELECTORAL TRICKS... |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh, good. More Republican talking points about Clinton's penis. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The article makes a lot of sense. But hey, if you're in denial, |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Bullshit. |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Don't dazzle them with facts. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
67. Hillary supporters turn their backs on facts... |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Hoo boy...did I take a radical right turn on the way to DU? |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. self delete wrong place. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
126. I have never voted outside our party. I voted for Clinton TWICE, but now I know better. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
198. The extreme left wingers I knew at the time voted for Nader. I think most of them did in fact. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
53. There are a lot of reasons to criticize Clinton and his presidency |
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Josh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
181. I think actually only Congress can change the Uniform Code of Military Justice, |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. Good point, but Clinton basically rolled over on it. |
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Josh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #184 |
250. I think a lot of it was about political capital - |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. And, you wonder why we lose so many elections. I have to wonder if some posting here... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I prefer Republican plants to Hillary's Keyboard Commandos |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Of course you do |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. They're not Republican plants. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. that is the truth. |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Anybody bring up "Mena Airport Cocaine Conspiracy" yet? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. No but what about the Clintons, Jackson Stephens & E Liverpool OH Incinerator |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. You mean Ken Starr and the repukes missed something? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Starr would have stayed clear of Jackson Stephens-who raised a lot for Bush |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. right. Ken Starr took the billions and investigated for years |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
118. Ken Starr missed the entire iceberg, it was all smoke and mirrors... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
108. What about the leaked thingy I posted last night about PROMIS? |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
229. That's the Dems whole problem, they're so afraid of the "radical left" |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
153. Wonder no more |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #153 |
230. Funny how the Joe Leiberman/Hillary Clinton wing of the party |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #230 |
247. Consider buying a dog instead |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #247 |
248. Maybe I'll hire Mark Penn instead |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #248 |
251. "(Seriously, I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean)" |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #251 |
252. I generally try to avoid sinking to this level |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #252 |
253. Consider buying a dog instead |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. I don't own a gun and I can't afford a dog. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #254 |
256. Deleted message |
JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #256 |
257. It's telling that you can't get past the moniker which I chose two years ago and can't change |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
200. I often wonder that. Especially when I hear people advocating |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. The first post where I saw cock mentioned was on yours. |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
72. Then you didn't read the OP. |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. The point is why did they want to have beer with him? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
204. It's amazing how famous little Willie is compared |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
10. my 2 cents |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
96. great analysis |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
145. I agree - I believe that people didn't approve of Clinton so much as |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Swiftboating of the Clintons by Obamabots continues. |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. It will get worse if and when Obama should have to endorse Hillary. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Noting scrapping Healthcare and Election Reform to focus on NAFTA isn't swiftboating. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
15. He's right. Clinton fucked himself. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. He was rather centrist. That's what it took to WIN.. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
70. Yes, he was a centrist, but he made promises on the campaign trail that |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
107. Who doesn't lie about them? Who readily admits to their mistakes? |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Are you saying that there is or isn't a difference between the two of them? |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. Total BS is your post. Gore got scared when the repukes said |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
131. very suspicious of your post I am. eom |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
17. babylonsister, I love you! You have just said what I was afraid to say, |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
65. pass the greens your smoking!! |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
133. Passing the greens might be a good idea if you were not |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is GREAT! Finally the gloves are coming off and so is the patina of |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. yeah he lied. DAMN! Go into any divorce court in america |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
89. Uninformed my ass. I know exactly what the hell went on during those |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. its quite obvious that you have not looked at his state and US |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
122. Not only that, but Clinton got a little help from Hong Kong... |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
197. hey, I agree with you on the latter, but there was no dot.com |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. The writer forgot about the meddling of the Supreme Joke |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. point one is BULLSHIT. clinton despite his impeachment was very popular at the time |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
141. Yep -- The mythical "backlash" beast is just that. . . |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
23. get a life? |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
28. While this is very well written and I agree with most of it, I disagree with the recommendation |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. clinton ended "welfare as we know it" |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
37. Locking |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Truth hurts? They are not r/w talking points. And please don't |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. True they are not r/w talking points. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Now who's attacking Dems? nt |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Is Stephen Pizzo a Democrat? Do YOU even know? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
123. Try to marginalize, Clinton supporters do it so well... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. Makes no sense at all. Clinton was tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th century. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. Why did you leave out NAFTA? |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Go to the link. The NAFTA thing is the centerpiece of this whole article |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. One Point: The 2000 Election WAS Stolen |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
45. I used to repect your posts. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. This is not the first of this type of post |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Truth hurt? |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. I've thought the same thing. There are a few I once admired |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I used to have a whole list of posters I looked forward to reading. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. He's been acting like a political hack rather than a former president. I also didn't |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. his behavior lately is appalling. he's totally lost the "above-the-fray" mantle |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. I have to agree and I have been one of Bill Clinton's biggest supporters for years! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
124. Great post, keep in mind also Clinton wanted to be president of the UN... |
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NanceGreggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
54. Memo to Stephen Pizzo: |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. I second that! eom. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. Well, imagine that! What in the hell do you think you're doing? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Above our station?!! I thought Bill was a man of the people. |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
104. Bang. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
57. Damn this post makes me mad. It is everything I was thinking and more. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. Well...I think we should ALL know better than to elect a drugie then... |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Yeah, look at the disaster that is the present prez cokehead. |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. NO_bama! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
64. Thanks for the thread, babylonsister. |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. Nice. |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
69. Democrats eating their own |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
187. yeah--who needs Repugs when we have DU members bring up |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
71. CLENIS! |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Who cannot marvel at its power to transform even the exciting life of Stephen Pizzo? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #71 |
173. Clenis just beat Raygun's boy! Hooray! |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
76. I agree 100%. Lots of pro Clinton rationalizing going on.... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
176. You forgot to mention.... |
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muyojoe (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
81. THE JOKE IS ON ALL OF US |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. The problem is he gave them the ammo |
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muyojoe (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. I STILL DON'T CARE |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
129. Not caring or not history shows that the swindlers only need an opening |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
83. Thanks, babylonsister! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
87. It's kind of sad, really.. He fought back from the edge of despair |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. but... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I agree with you.. He had the power..and he let it slip away |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #97 |
188. "I'm sick of apologizing for them...." |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. It is naive to think we are discussing anything the pugs do not already know about in detail |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #87 |
121. "Seems to want the office back?" I don't think so. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. What "Really" did Clinton EVER CARE ABOUT? Huh? |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #121 |
223. She channeled Forrest Gump ? |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #223 |
245. Did she ever! |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
90. Perfectly true. eom kr |
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russian33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
92. why does this sound familiar? it's Clinton's fault? where have i heard this before... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
95. This is what we need to be reminded of,.constantly...what Bill Cost us...that we aren't getting back |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
99. Bill |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #99 |
148. I haven't forgotten. nt |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
100. Nice SELECTIVE memory you've got n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
102. Another Puritan pretending that Clinton was the first President |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #102 |
149. But all the other kids were doing it! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #149 |
159. Well you know they were. And no one was dragged in front of |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. No, he only had to go on 60 Minutes and humilate himself and his wife |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. Yeah, he should have skipped the 60 minutes moment. n/t |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
103. Big Dog is doing just fine. nt |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
106. You tell him sister! |
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FlyingSquirrel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
110. It's all sad, but true. However I don't exactly see the point in saying it. |
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winston61 (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
111. For Christ's sake, get over |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
112. Bush's presidency is the fault of the MSM, Jeb Bush and the SCOTUS |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. IMO, in addition to the half-assed support of "The Clintonian DLC" who were waiting for THIS ... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
115. That's a shitty argument; Clinton's approval rating shot to almost 70% during the Monica thing. |
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Applan (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #115 |
228. Well said LoZo |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
116. You forgot about him moving the party to the right too! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
119. I recommended. Just found out that Carville is still working with them. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
127. OMG get real |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
128. I am going to say this ..... |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #128 |
140. Tell it fellow Buckeye ... |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #128 |
147. x2 |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
130. "So what? They all do it." |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
135. I don't care if Clinton got a hummer - but he was stupid enough to get caught |
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CranialRectaLoopbak (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
142. Whose fault |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Al Gore DID NOT lose the 2000 election. The repukes stole it. The REPUKE SCOTUS appointed |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
143. Nooo! The mighty Clenis beat Raygun - and also, FYI: GORE WON! He won big! |
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ClericJohnPreston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #143 |
158. I feel exactly the same way. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
151. I'll second that entire |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
161. K&R |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
166. Stephen Pizzo has done it |
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mamameow (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
167. asses |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
168. 140 recs, 4500 views... we have a winner !! |
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NikolaC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
169. I Don't Give A Fat Flying Fart |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
170. Looks like most of you didn't bother to read the article |
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Stranded (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #170 |
177. You might of read it but did not understand the crux |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #177 |
193. MY argument starts and ends with NAFTA and Telcom deregulation |
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Stranded (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:31 AM Response to Reply #193 |
209. Residency is not the issue |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
171. True that. n/t |
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DiamondJay (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
172. who does he like better? Obama or Bush? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
174. Somebody please tell ObamaSister that Bill Clinton isn't running? |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #174 |
192. Yes, but is she wearing a blue dress? |
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Stranded (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
175. At least she's not blaming Nader... |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
178. Thanks for posting this, your right on target. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
179. Bill Clinton is a double edged sword that cuts both ways /nt |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
206. Goddammit,he should drop out of the race RIGHT NOW!!!!11!!1!!!11!!!! |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
207. Another Clinton semen-sniffer |
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freefall (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
208. Thanks for posting, babylonsister!! |
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johnnydrama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:02 AM Response to Reply #208 |
212. the point is |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
213. Twisted, Sister! |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
214. You sound just like a Freeper. Look at the WHOLE TRUTH! |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #214 |
221. In case you didn't notice, |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
216. gore won the 00 election -- it was stolen -- so i don't know what you're talking about. nt |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
217. It was a rogue Supreme Court that "virtually handed the keys to Oval Office ... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
219. I understand the distress of the author of the article that the Clintons |
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Andy Canuck (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
220. Bill has brain damage post heart surgery. |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #220 |
224. He's just plain TOO OLD. He's devolved in to your cranky, "Mr. Wilson" neighbor. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #220 |
226. I nominate this post for a new DU low. nt |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
222. I Think Obama should Walk to the Edge of the Stage at the Next Debate |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #222 |
238. Oh my,Are we still Democrats here?,,,, |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #238 |
243. Just Having some "Mucking" fun...not really serious, However, Teddy |
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Donkeykick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
225. I Disagree. Here's Why. |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
232. NEWSFLASH...having an affair is NOT illegal, immoral maybe, but not illegal, and who's |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
233. Kick!! |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
234. My goodness. For a liberal, you're awfully judgmental about Clinton's sex life. |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
237. Sing it, sistah! |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #237 |
244. Apparently, Teddy is "warming up in the bullpen" for Obama. See Newsweek |
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teleharmonium (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
255. another reason |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
258. And now you know why Gore didn't endorse Hillary!! |
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