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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:08 PM
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Salmon Press Newspapers,"She [Hill]did not say Reagan was her favorite President."


http://www.dailykos.com/

from kos website:
Update II: Okay, the author of that editorial says they screwed up:

The question posed was originally what portraits would you hang in the White House if you were President and as the dialogue progressed, who are the presidents you admire most?

She listed several presidents that she admired and mentioned she liked Reagan’s communication skills. She did not say Reagan was her favorite President. She didn’t say anything close to that.

So Hillary didn't say Reagan was one of her favorites either. She just praised his skills. Like someone else suddenly being attacked for doing the same….

From link in above story:
http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=5309


Bad Oppo Alert! Hillary Did Not List Ronald Reagan As Favorite President

1/18/2008 8:55:40 PM

In an effort to divert attention from Senator Obama’s comments about President Reagan and his assertion that the GOP has been the "party of ideas," the Obama campaign circulated an item this evening from the Salmon Press in New Hampshire that asserts that Senator Clinton listed the former President as one of her favorite presidents. In fact, Senator Clinton only complimented President Reagan’s communications skills – an attribute of his that has been widely praised by Americans of all ideological stripes – and did not list him as one of her favorite presidents. She also noted that she respected George H.W. Bush.

David Cutler, the co-owner of Salmon Press Newspapers, released the following statement:

The question posed was originally what portraits would you hang in the White House if you were President and as the dialogue progressed, who are the presidents you admire most?

She listed several presidents that she admired and mentioned she liked Reagan’s communication skills. She did not say Reagan was her favorite President. She didn’t say anything close to that.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:09 PM
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:09 PM
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2. Doesn't look like Obama has clean hands
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magatte Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:00 PM
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16. You slandering shit... totally off-topic
nt.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:15 PM
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17. How is it off topic?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:16 PM
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3. Oh, Reagan was a great communicator
Yeah, exactly. Now is she going to stop her robo calls??
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:29 PM
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4. I saw where Obama too gave props regarding "Reagan's communication skills"...
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 11:31 PM by Zueda
But I don't think he said anything about hanging Reagan's portrait up in his office. :shrug:
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:59 PM
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5. Why am I not surprised?
...after Obama admitted during the debate that his campaign HAD been pushing the story that Hillary and Bill were racially insensitive, and that his press secretary had released to the media 4 pages of supposed insensitive remarks he attributed to them or her campaign. I about fell off my chair. It greatly offended me, painting Hillary and Bill Clinton, of all people, as racially insensitive...causing that sort of divide in our party that has fought hard for civil rights and to eradicate racism.

His remarks about Reagan and the 60's really angered me. They were offensive. Period.

I'm tired of Obama supporters claiming he did not praise Regan or the Republican party in his remarks. Yes, he did. He wasn't misquoted and nothing was taken out of context. He is very plain about it. Stating that the Republican party was the 'party of ideas' IS complimentary and praise, nothing less. It IS in essence saying they had the ideas and we, Democrats, did not; that they were BETTER in that area for 10-15 years.

I watched the entire interview. He goes on to say he 'didn't come of age during the battles of the 60's, and is not so invested in them', that it's a 'generational thing', that he is not anti-war, and his frame of reference is not Vietnam, that he is not about that or like 'some 70's LOVE-IN'. He puts down 'Baby Boomers' specifically and implied that (we) and that great era aren't relevant now.

EXREMELY disappointing.

Don't bother telling me about the mistakes Bill Clinton made. First of all, he isn't running for president, contrary to the sexist spouting otherwise. I don't like some things he did either, 'welfare reform', NAFTA, but he didn;t have much voice at a certain point as conservatives tried to take him down, nor much to work with having a Republican congress. He still managed to do a LOT of good. And you wouldn't hear a speech like that praising Republicans and disrespecting the 60's come out of his mouth.

I'm sick of all of this. I want it to STOP.

This is OUR time, OURS, not any candidates time to use as they please.

I was so glad they seemed to realize the damage that was being done to the party and refused to take the bait anymore at the debate. We needed it.

WHY is Obama doing this now? To get Republican and Independent support?!

By trashing who we are, the era we made so much progress in, praise Republicans and RONALD REAGAN?!

He needs to cut it OUT so we can come out of this primary with our party platform and values intact...be able to say WE are the party of championing civil rights, fairness, equality.

And if that's who Obama really is, then he is not the president for us.

I'm DONE.

STOP TEARING OUR PARTY APART.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:04 AM
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6. The false story is on the Front page with 76 RECS--most snarky, gleeful--and this one will
prob. sink!
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:25 AM
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7. Don't forget the pro-Reagan comments in his book too
They want you to forget them, it's easier to just try to spin away the interview quote.

Audacity of Hope page 31:

"That Reagan's message found such a receptive audience spoke not only to his skills as a communicator; it also spoke to the failures of liberal government, during a period of economic stagnation, to give middle-class voters any sense that it was fighting for them. For the fact was government at every level had become to cavalier about spending taxpayer money. Too often bureaucracies were oblivious to the cost of their mandates. A lot of liberal rhetoric did seem to value rights and entitlements over duties and responsibilities. Reagan may have exaggerated the sins of the welfare state, and certainly liberals were right to complain that his domestic policies tilted heavily toward elites, with corporate raiders making tidy profits throughout the eighties while unions were busted and the income for the average working stiff flatlined.

Nevertheless, by promising to side with those who worked hard, obeyed the law, cared for their families, loved their country, Reagan offered Americans a sense of common purpose that liberals seemed no longer able to muster."

Pages 156-157

"The conservative revolution Reagan helped usher in gained traction because Reagan's central insight--that the liberal welfare state had grown complacent and overly bureaucratic, with Democratic policy makers more obsessed with slicing the economic pie than with growing he pie--contained a good deal of truth."

Talk of expanding the pie rather than slicing it, is a DLC-style smokescreen for talking about cutting back on social programs.

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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:30 AM
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9. I didn't know about what he wrote...why does THAT not surprise me either?
Where was the media coverage and questioning of him about it?

Thank you for the quotes.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:06 AM
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13. The interview can only be understood in the context of what he said about Reagan in his book
This is why Obamites have ignored the facts about what Obama wrote in his book about Reagan. The interview, standing alone, can be spun away but when you put the book alongside the interview it is obvious what Obama really thinks.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:54 PM
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15. I didn't read the book. The interview was disgraceful on it's own. It's indefensible.
but people will think what they want, ignore the facts, after they've become so committed.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:57 PM
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19. Bought the book last year with intentions of reading it, but now
I will have to look at these pages.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:29 AM
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8. She just amired his communication skillz...
:pals:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 AM
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10. K&R!
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:07 AM
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11. And now for NOT the huffandblowpost.com
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:01 AM
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12. Logan's Law: all statements about Hillary by Obama people are flat-out lies.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:06 AM
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14. She said she admire his skills, just like Obama
I don't see the difference.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:22 PM
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18. Ok, so Hillary respected Reagan's ability to tell a lie without blinking.
Makes sense.
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