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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:21 PM
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Jesse Jackson, Sr, on MSNBC: Martin Luther King & Lyndon Johnson were a team
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:24 PM by Karmadillo
This respected supporter of Senator Obama noted those who attacked Senator Clinton for her remarks were in error.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:21 PM
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1. Junior Jackson or senior Jackson? n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:23 PM
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2. I am going to assume it's Senior - as he said "respected"
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:25 PM
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4. Senior. I updated the OP.
nt
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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9. Senior needs to take Junior to the woodshed
over his nasty sexist remarks.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:25 PM
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3. How long ago did this air?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:25 PM
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5. 5 minutes ago
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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6. Just a couple of minutes ago
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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8. About 10 minutes ago. 12:10 pm or thereabouts.
nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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7. Only those who do not know history think otherwise. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:27 PM
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12. ...or those who are the new 'PC' (Progressively Correct)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:30 PM
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14. Ain't that the truth. nt
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:29 PM
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29. Exactly!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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10. NOW can we put it to bed? n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:27 PM
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13. nice sentiment
O8)

lets hope.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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11. Why of course they were a team.
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:50 PM by Maribelle
Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, and a large portion of the south in MLK's days were ruled by racist bigoted old southern dixicrats which also populated the major portion of the KKK. And all the while republicans were courting the dixicrats simply for political power.

It was an extremely bleak time for southern blacks and whites that supported civil rights. As were blacks, there were many whites in places such as rural Alabama that were scared to death of the KKK, and truly didn't know which way to turn.

To know and understand MLK, Rosa Parks, the bus boycotts, Selma, Birmingham, Mississippi burning, is to know and understand exactly what these good people were up against: the segregationist platform of the old southern dixicrats such as George Wallace, both before he was first elected governor of Alabama in 1962, and after he was elected three more times.


And along comes LBJ: no memorial or eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought. #1

In pouring through the LBJ tapes of his phone conversations, you will clearly hear a man determined that he would not stop pushing the Civil Rights legislation - - fully aware that alienating the south could hand the government over to republicans for twenty-years or more. But one tape in particular is a conversation LBJ had with MILK, recorded for all of history to hear:

PRESIDENT JOHNSON: A good many people told me that they heard about your statement. I guess on TV, wasn't it?

MARTIN LUTHER KING: Yes, that's right.

PRESIDENT JOHNSON: I've been locked up in this office and haven't seen it, but I want to tell you how grateful I am and how worthy I'm going to try to be of all your hopes.

MARTIN LUTHER KING: Well, thank you very much. I'm so happy to hear that, and I knew that you had just that great spirit. And you know you have our support and backing. We know what a difficult period this is.

PRESIDENT JOHNSON: It's just an impossible period. We've got a budget coming up that we've got nothing to do with. It's practically already made. And we've got a civil rights bill that hasn't even passed the House and it's November, and Hubert Humphrey told me yesterday that everybody wanted to go home, and I'm going to ask the Congress Wednesday to just stay there till they pass ‘em all. They won't do it, but we'll just keep them there next year until they do, and we just won't give up an inch.

MARTIN LUTHER KING: Uh-huh. Well, this is mighty fine. I think it's so imperative. I think one of the great tributes that we can pay a memory of President Kennedy is to try to enact some of the great progressive policies that he sought to initiate

PRESIDENT JOHNSON: Well, I'm going to support ‘em all, and you can count on that. And I'm going to do my best to get other men to do likewise. I'll have to have you-all's help. And I never needed it more than I do now. #2


Here you hear these two men, MLK and LBJ, forming a partnership for the ages, for our children, for our grandchildren, a partnership based on dedication and a firm committment. Anyone that denies this partnership, denies the reality of these two great men.

Lyndon Baines Johnson has been credited with being one of the most important figures in the civil rights movement. Johnson does have some distracters who believe that he was merely an unprincipled politician who used the civil rights issue when he realized the worth of the "Black Vote". However Johnson himself claimed to be an idealist who dreamed of making America a "Great Society". #3



Refs:
#1 http://faculty.smu.edu/dsimon/Change-CivRts2.html
#2 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/july-dec97/lbj_10-14.html
#3 http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Lyndon_Baines_Johnson.htm


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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:32 PM
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16. Thanks, Maribelle. I loved reading that.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:55 PM
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20. Thank you back. (n/t)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:34 PM
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18. bookmarked.
on an unrelated note, sorry for being short with you last night.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:58 PM
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23. Not to worry.
Clashing heads on an intellicutal level, rather than fired up with pomp, sometimes helps to clarify our own thoughts and opinions.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:31 PM
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15. I'm sorry but its taken these people long enough to do this

They sat by and let Hillary get attacked on all sides and now they go, nah its fine.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:33 PM
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17. Were they a team on that whole Vietnam thing? nt
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:55 PM
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21. as you probably already know
MLK did not support that war.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:40 PM
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19. A voice of reason
Thank you, Rev. Jackson.

Still proud to say I voted for him in `84.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:58 PM
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22. Isn't he one of those Baby Boomers?
When will he stop dragging us back to the battles of the Sixties and Seventies? He is so reality based.

I want some Twenty-first Century feel-good messages.



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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:09 PM
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26. lol nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:02 PM
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24. Yeah. Sure.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:08 PM
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25. He also stated that Bill Clinton had been a good friend to Obama
and had supported his Senate campaign. I thought Jesse Jackson made a great attempt to reconcile the two sides and he also remarked at how wonderful it was to have seen an Hispanic, a woman, and an African American on the same stage debating the issues in the campaign, and he also mentioned Edwards in that group. I voted for Jesse Jackson in a primary many years ago. He was one of the most dynamic speakers in any political campaign I have ever heard. He was dynamite.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:10 PM
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27. He's another one of our icons.
I always enjoy listening to him.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:11 PM
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28. kick
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:33 PM
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30. So Jesse, who sent in the troops that day?
You know, some people arent so fond of Jesse's claim to the legacy.
I always thought Frank was a little over the top when he wrote Rhymin Man, but damned if he
hasnt been on the mark on everything else even years after his death. The man had some serious
connections, and always stood on the side of free thought.
Its nice to see that Jesse has recovered somewhat from his love child assassination.
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