Hillary and Big Dawg on The Gipper: "He personified the indomitable optimism of the American people"

[jefferson_dem]

In cahoots --

...

Former President Bill Clinton and his wife, Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, issued a statement that praised the former president for his optimistic outlook.

"Hillary and I will always remember President Ronald Reagan for the way he personified the indomitable optimism of the American people, and for keeping America at the forefront of the fight for freedom for people everywhere," their statement said.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/05/reagan.health/index.html

[Colobo]

1. Big Dawg and Da' Gippah!

[AlCzervik]

2. why even say anything about Reagan?

really, one of the worst ever.

[PDJane]

His optimistic outlook?

Oh, for crying out loud.......he was a racist, sexist, intellectually incurious dinosaur. Give me a break.

[caligirl]

3. minus points for association alone.

[EVDebs]

4. What Reagan taught Bush.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bush_Gang/What_Reagan_Taught_Bush.html

[Herman Munster]

5. it's common courtesy to say nice things after someone died

What would you rather have them do? Piss on his grave?

[girl_interrupted]

9. This link is from the day Reagan died

and it is customary on hearing of an ex president to get a comment from other leaders. So what's Obama's excuse?

[stillrockin]

22. That would be ok with me.

[jasmine621]

6. What a bag of shit!! Reagan fought for freedom everywhere but in the USA.

He busted unions, turned back civil rights for blacks, and ask those folks in central America if he was for freedom for everyone...especially in Gutamela.

[Lautremont]

7. He also personified their tendency to do and say dumb things from time to time.

[jackson_dem]

8. Any president with class would say nice things when another president died

[OzarkDem]

Where did the Reagan praise talking points come from?

Either Clinton or Obama or both have Repub consultants on staff. I guess this is their lame attempt to appeal to crossover voters.

They've both been in DC way too long.

[Cameron27]

12. No, this is about an Obama video

that came today in which he praised Reagan, & the OP is taking something that Bill said when Reagan died to try to make a comparison.

[OzarkDem]

17. Thank you Obama!

Thanks for tying that anchor to your campaign so my candidate can win.

[Cameron27]

10. For heaven's sake

it was his funeral, what's Obama's excuse?

[Colobo]

15. He shouldn't excuse what he said

because it's pretty interesting and makes sense. It's just that people who don't support Obama refuse to understand what he means and instead prefer to play politics with his words.

[jefferson_dem]

16. So you're saying Bill and Hillary were lying? That's pretty damn rude.

Obama was honest and accurate. That's a beautiful thing.

[BenDavid]

11. Wanna know the truth? Reagan was a damn racist.....

And if Obama wishes to hold reagan up as some model to follow after, just so he can use the word INSPIRATIONAL, tells me something more about obama's character then reagan's......

Racist is as racist does. I care, really, how Reagan mistreated African American in his personal life. I care that prominent people seem to think that he wasn’t really a racist and I guess Obama must not either. What I care about is that Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of the Conservative Movement, made a career out of deliberately appealing to the racist vote. it brought him to power and it was a constant tool throughout his career. Ronald Reagan acted in public as a racist acts. He deliberately set out to appeal to racists and continue the odious Southern Strategy. In doing so, he helped to mainstream racism in the GOP and thus the country.

Ben David

[jefferson_dem]

13. Coming from you...

:thumbsdown:

[LittleClarkie]

18. Obama hates black people!

I think it was Reagan's ability to get elected in a landslide that Obama was looking at, not his policies.

[girl_interrupted]

25. Well maybe Obama should take a "look" at Reagan's Policies

before he opens big mouth, don't you think? Reagan was a 2 time president...FDR 4..maybe obama should take a refresher course in American History.

[mckeown1128]

27. I think we can all agree that Obama has "looked" at Reagan's...

policies. Again, he wasn't saying that Reagan's policies were good. But, why do I bother...you don't like Obama and you are going to twist what Obama said to fit your mold of how "bad or repuke lite" you think Obama is.

[CreekDog]

14. My take on Reagan: As president, he forgot more than most of ever knew

:applause:

[mckeown1128]

19. But.. what will the Hillary supporters do now...

will they say all the mean nasty things about Hillary that they have been saying about Obama this evening.

[jefferson_dem]

20. They are busy rationalizing...

saying Bill and Hillary were just serving up niceties or lying when they compliment Raygun.

How quaint.

[HughMoran]

21. nice - "2004" eh?

I guess it's a "good for goose is good for gander" moment huh?

It's to be expected I suppose huh?

[sjdnb]

23. Again, why are Barack's people attempting to obscure whatever it was

he said by bringing up what B/H said upon Reagan's death - like he'd have done anything less. Fact is, he didn't have to praise Reagan now - but, from the attempts to obfuscate his praise, by his handlers/supporters, I have to assume they know he let something 'slip' he should not have.

[killbotfactory]

24. Obama didn't praise Reagan

People here have lost their fucking minds, all they see is "Obama: Blah blah blah blah REAGAN blah blah blah"

[mckeown1128]

26. It is not obscuring it is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from

Clinton supporters who are trying to blow something out of proportion. Was it bad exampled that Obama used to make his point...ehh...debatable... but people here are saying how Obama is betraying aids victims or the democratic party by saying what he said.

[sjdnb]

29. An Obama supporter started this thread ....

unfortunately, it has lead many of us, who otherwise were considering Obama, to reevaluate based upon his comments regarding Reagan - both in the campaign and in his book.

[incapsulated]

28. The man had just DIED

What did you expect another President to say, "fuck him"?

[johnnydrama]

30. exactly

It's common courtesy to say extremely nice and generous things about somebody at their funeral.

It's also common courtesy to say extremely nice and generous things about somebody on their 100th birthday.

Like Trent Lott did.

[redqueen]

32. All context is lost in the bid to play down Obama's massive screwup. (nt)

[eppur_se_muova]

31. What, did he just die again? I thought the eulogies were over!

Enough with this dried-out old prune, already. He fucked this country over big-time. Who cares whether he did it with genuine or feigned sincerity?