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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:54 AM
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Let me be the first to say "Michigan Results PROVE that if nominated, HRC will lose in November"
Here's why. It is a simple matter of numbers:

1. "Uncommitted" was the big winner among the democratic candidates
2. Kucinich made a stronger showing than anyone predicted
3. Ron Paul and John McCain are the big winners on the republick side, because of crossover votes
4. Far more ballots were cast for republicks than is representative of the population
5. Clinton numbers were remarkably low considering she was the only major candidate left on the ballot

I believe it is time for Mrs. Clinton to concede that the election is lost in November if she is nominated and steps aside. She should then encourage her supporters and delegates to get behind a candidate who more closely represents Democratic principles and is not vilified by the majority of the voting public, so the rest of the campaign can be substantive and the resulting nominee will have an easy time mopping the floor with whatever stooge the pukes prop up in the fall.

We must not forget that we need a landslide in the fall because as we have learned in the last two, Diebold wins all ties.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:56 AM
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CORKhead,
is that it?
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:56 AM
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1. Ha ha
You so funny.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:56 AM
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2. Today, Michigan means Nothing.
Pay no attention to it.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:06 AM
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3. spoken like a true DLCer
:hi:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:18 AM
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5. Democrats withdraw from Michigan 'beauty contest' - CNN.com
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Five Democratic presidential candidates Tuesday sought to officially withdraw from Michigan's January 15 primary, rendering the event ...
www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/09/michigan.primary/index.html
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Try to pay attention, Cork
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:25 AM
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6. there is a quote of significance in that article...
"The Clinton campaign said she will not withdraw from the Michigan ballot because it is unnecessary to do so."

She is going to regret staying in because all her one person beauty contest will serve to do is make her look bad

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:30 AM
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7. Whatever. It's just the Michigan primary. No one really cares.
Good luck to your candidate, if you have one.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:36 AM
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11. Will The Others Regret Not Campaigning In Much More Populous Florida Where They Are Getting
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:41 AM
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17. I dont think you can so quickly discount MI.... If Dennis beats Hill, it will
show the strong anti Clinton sentiment that will mean something in the fall if she is eventually our nominee. Also, if Ron Paul has a strong showing on the Repuplicant side it will show that the Iraq issue is still very viable.

I think the Dems should be continually pounding the Iraq war.... Promising investigations into the intel and the mis-handling of war funds and war profiteering if elected!!! imo
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:06 AM
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4. Sorry, no sale. nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:33 AM
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8. Are the results in already?
What were the results in numbers?
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:38 AM
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14. let me get back to you on that
:P
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:35 AM
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9. WTF?!?! This is the craziest post I've seen so far....
Today is the 15th. It's 9:30 a.m. here in Michigan. The polls have only been open 2-1/2 hours. So how can you post all of this stuff about how the primary turned out? If you're speculating, it sure doesn't seem so in your post.

Or do you have a crystal ball?

Sheesh!
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:35 AM
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10. So, you're basing this brilliant deduction on results that haven't even come in yet?
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 09:37 AM by TwilightZone
More crystal ball politicking.

By the way, the polls disagree with your assertion: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/mi/michigan_democratic_primary-238.html

I doubt that "uncommitted" is suddenly going to make up a 20-30 point deficit.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:36 AM
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12. Um, "uncommitted" is the sum of all the other candidates.
:eyes:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:38 AM
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13. 4. Far more ballots were cast for republicks than is representative of the population
Duh... There isn't a Democratic primary for all intents and purposes...
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:40 AM
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15. senator clinton has as much chances of wining as does anyone else
your pitting everyones primary candidate against her. so edwards/biden/richardson/obama vs clinton. dems will come together for their candidate.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 09:40 AM
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16. People from the future shouldn't tell us how the election is going to turn out.
It's not fair for the rest of us who live in the present.
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