Kucinich sues NBC over Nevada debate

[Klukie]

Rep. Dennis Kucinich has just sued NBC-TV in Las Vegas over his exclusion from the MSNBC debate among top Demcoratic candidates in Nevada tomorrow.

According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Kucinich filed his lawsuit moments ago seeking a temporary restraining order allowing him to participate in the nationally-televised debate among Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama. A copy of the lawsuit is available here.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/01/breaking-news-k.html

[fenriswolf]

1. awsome maybe hell get the campaign funds he desperatly needs.

[TwilightZone]

2. I think he's probably getting more attention from the lawsuits than he would have from the debates.

I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

[rhett o rick]

3. give em hell Dennis nm

[whatdoyouthink]

4. Now he did it

He going to need a good Lawyer- Maybe Obama / Hillary / Or Edwards can help him

[ursi]

5. Good for him. I suspect Harry Reid and friends had something to do with Kucinich being left out

Reid made some ugly remarks about Kucinich on a Reno station last week about him needing to just go home.

[truedelphi]

12. If it was my choice, Reid could go home. n/t

[Breeze54]

6. Good! NBC, ABC & Disney suck the royal route! - Call & email NBC!!

Who the F do they think they are deciding who gets to speak? :grr:

Please email NBC. Feel free to copy.

NBC/MSNBC, I object to your exclusion of Congressman Dennis Kucinich from the NBC/MSNBC Presidential debate on January 15, 2008. Mr. Kucinich, whom you invited and subsequently un-invited to the debate, is a presidential candidate who has fulfilled all Federal Elections Commission Criteria.
I remind you that you have been granted a license in order to operate.
I accuse you of violating and breaching the trust given to you by that license. I accuse you of tampering with the election and attempting to change the outcome of the election by excluding Dennis Kucinich.
I demand that you include Congressman Kucinich in the NBC Democratic debate of January 15, 2008 and all subsequent debates. The majority of the American people depend on television to be informed.
I remind you, therefore that if you do not include Mr. Kucinich in the aforementioned debate, you will be inflicting damages on the American people by depriving them of their right to be informed before making their decision to vote, (in addition to other damages) and inflicting damages on the Honorable Kucinich.

NBC/MSNBC: 212-664-4444

Email NBC/MSNBC: [e-mail]

[slipslidingaway]

13. Just called the above number again and there is a ray of hope.

The young gentleman said he MAY be included, nothing confirmed yet. I said that I understand a lawsuit had been filed and maybe the new consideration was in response to the lawsuit and he said yes.

Again nothing confirmed!

If anyone else wants the media to stop choosing our candidates they might want to call and express their wishes that Dennis be included.

It could be your candidate next time.

Thanks for posting the information and for those who gave it K&R's.

[Klukie]

17. I just called the number

and the guy said that he would not be in the debate. When I mentioned the lawsuit he said he wasn't aware of it and he put me through to a comment line. We'll see.

[slipslidingaway]

19. They're still figuring it out is what they said to my husband, guess

we'll see. Sometimes the original operator transfers the call to a message line, other times you get a real person as I've had both happen to me.

The more calls they receive the better IMO, otherwise any of the issues Dennis brings up during the debate are silenced.


My top three issues...

Not for profit health care

The continual war drums and propaganda

Accountability/impeachment

[Breeze54]

20. Kucinich is IN the debate Tuesday! The judge ruled in Kucinich's favor!

See GD!! :woohoo:

Judge puts Kucinich in Nevada debate
ASSOCIATED PRESS

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080114/NEWS19/80114039/1232/NEWS19

LAS VEGAS (AP) —

A Nevada judge says Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich must be included
in Tuesday’s candidates’ debate in Nevada.

Senior Clark County District Court Judge Charles Thompson says if Kucinich is excluded,
he’ll issue an injunction stopping the televised debate.

More...

:applause: :applause:

[slipslidingaway]

21. The operator just said there is nobody here who can confirm

that and I have to wait until it is on the news. I asked her where this news would be and she said the 11:00 news. I said "It will be on the 11:00 news and she said "yes."

I remember reading that an executive at ABC was able to stop the last Kucinich lawsuit by contacting another judge, so I'm waiting til the fat lady sings this time.

:)


Of course there is also placement, time alloted and substantive questions to contend with, but it's a start. And significant damage has already been done :(

The corporations are truly scared of the issues Dennis brings to the debates.

One small step against the corporate media.

[slipslidingaway]

22. And thanks for the heads up! n/t

[cal04]

33. thanks Breeze54 just sent an email

and called
:hug:

[mikelgb]

7. Hello greatest page

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

8. Funny that he only decided to sue AFTER he was excluded

(a jest)

[mrdemocrat78]

9. well yeah, why would he sue before?

You do know that they had told him he was invited first, right? yeah, didn't think so.

[Breeze54]

10. DOH!

[Debi]

11. Did he use campaign funds to file this suit? n/t

[kenfrequed]

18. It is appropriate use

He would be filing a suit directly pursuant to his presidential campaing.

Please DO NOT hang a question out like that as if to cast doubt on the legitimacy of using campaign funds in order to actually (gasp!) campaign.

[Debi]

23. Please do not presume to know why I asked the question.

Obviously you don't know the answer or you would have provided it to me.

[kenfrequed]

24. Ok so what is the point?

I mean the question must have some purpose. What is it?

[Debi]

26. I wanted to know if he used campaign funds to file the suit.

Why does there have to be a nefarious purpose to my question?

[kenfrequed]

27. And I am asking two questions now:

1) What difference does it make?

and

2) Why do you want to know?


(btw-I do recall the handle, you have posted before in regards to DK's candidacy.)

[Debi]

28. I'll answer both questions

It makes no difference.
I just want to know where the funds for the law suit originated.

BTW Since I've been on this board for the last 5 years of course I've posted about DK's candidacy - and many other's as well. Stop looking for a fight, I'm not trying to start one.

Now, I've answered your questions - can you answer mine?

Did he or did he not use campaign funds to pay for the filing of the law suit in Nevada? Please if you don't have an answer just tell me so.

[kenfrequed]

29. Ok....now for the obvious answer

Of course he did!

either via some lawyers conscientious pro-bono work

or

through campaign funding

or

he filed the damned thing himself.

ABSOLUTELY NONE of these are illegal, shadey or worthy of any of your typical attacks in favor of Kucinich being excluded.

[Debi]

30. When did I ever say Kucinich should be excluded from the Nevada debate?

He met the requirements, right? And was invited, right? So, why should he be excluded?

I asked the question of where the funds for the lawsuit came from. You obviously don't know the answer. Why not just say, "I don't know"? I guess I'll have to wait for the FEC reports to find out the answer to my question.

That chip on your shoulder must really weigh you down.

[kenfrequed]

31. Play coy all you like

But I recall you posting on the threads regarding the Des Moines Register exclusion of Kucinich.

[Debi]

32. Absolutely, he didn't meet the requirements set out by the DMR

However, he did meet the requirements in this case, right?

So, if he wins (and he is allowed to attend the debate) who pays the legal expenses? If Kucinich for President footed the intitial bill for filing and serving (and the attorneys for drawing up the papers) WHO does MSNBC reimburse? Will Kucinich for President receive payment from MSNBC?

[kenfrequed]

34. forgive my suspicion

but given your previous posts I have great difficulty that your crocodilian tears for his expenses are anything more than face-saving.

However on the off chance that they are genuine, I really hope that MSNBC gets stuck holding the bill.

[Debi]

35. No crocodilian tears being shed

just a question...that still hasn't been answered.

[GreenArrow]

36. actually he did meet the requirements

which required him to have an "office", not a rented office, not a storefront, but simply an "office".

[Freddie Stubbs]

14. Campaign by litigation

I guess if he can't convince the voters, he can try for a few victories in the courtroom.

[slipslidingaway]

16. We have all complained about media bias, why would this be

an exception?

[Freddie Stubbs]

37. Complaining is one thing, trying to get the courts to make a credible candidate is another

[goodhue]

25. Indeed

And he got a victory. Litigation as campaign tactic is hardly limited to Kucinich.

[Freddie Stubbs]

38. And what a victory it was!

He is doing amazingly in the debate.

[Freddie Stubbs]

39. And what a victory it was!

He is doing amazingly in the debate.

[slipslidingaway]

15. Thanks for posting this! n/t