In Florida, great news for Hil: lead over Obama virtually unchanged (22%) since December (21)

[antiimperialist]

Great news from this new Quinnipiac poll for Hillary. Florida is not warming up to Obama. And trust me, the Sunshine state has A LOT of delegates.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1133&What=&strArea=;&strTime=120

[AX10]

1. K/R

Clearly they are all racists!
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:

[Hello_Kitty]

7. Ahem. Having lived in Central Fla. for a while, I can tell you that a lot of them are. nt

[MadBadger]

2. She can have Florida.

[truebrit71]

3. Floridas delegates don't count. She can keep 'em...

...

[antiimperialist]

6. it is not clear they wont count nt

[Alexander]

10. Howard Dean won't seat those delegates.

So yes, it is clear, unless the Clintons pull some shenanigans and try to seat the delegates.

[rodeodance]

12. Nelson said they will put up a ruckus--wonder what the Party will do???

[Alexander]

46. Hopefully Dean will put an end to this nonsense.

It's not like the Florida and Michigan parties are more special than any other state's.

[durrrty libby]

22. They will get seated. Anyone believing they won't is delusional

[Alexander]

45. Why would they get seated? They deliberately broke party rules.

Unless Dean is forced out, I don't see it happening.

[antiimperialist]

13. pay no mind, DU'ers. Florida delegates will be seated nt

[IndianaGreen]

16. It will a floor fight and I doubt many Obama and Edwards' delegates would vote for Hillary

on this issue.

[cali]

23. Dean will not seat them.

He's incredibly stubborn. He was my guv for 11 years. I know. If you think he'll give in to pressure from the Clintons, think again- or from pressure from Nelson. He'll just dig in.

[tekisui]

4. No matter how many delegates they have, they won't be counted.

Florida's Democratic Primary is nothing but a show this year. The delegates don't count.

[IndianaGreen]

5. Florida and Michigan were stripped of all their delegates by DNC

I don't agree with the draconian tactics of DNC, but that's where we are.

[antiimperialist]

15. that is not definitive nt

[IndianaGreen]

18. The Hillary people will have to challenge the Credentials Committee

They will lose the committee vote, and then they will have to take the issue to the floor of the convention and let the delegates vote on the issue. I doubt that any of Obama and Edwards' delegates will vote to seat Hillary's Florida and Michigan delegates.

[cali]

24. so sorry. it is definite. don't hang your hopes on this. n/t

[antiimperialist]

32. not definitive nt

[truebrit71]

36. Um...yes it is...Check with Howard Dean and the DNC..you know, the guys that DECIDE these things....

...the delegates will NOT count....

[JackORoses]

39. what was the whole stripping of ballots if not definitive

as of now, Yes, this is the definitive fact,
the Ballots have been taken away by the DNC.

You are hoping that there is enough pressure to force Party Officials to reverse this decision.
This is just your opinion, and that is by no means definitive.

[rocktivity]

8. Get thee behind me, poll!

UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!!!!



x(
rocknation

[skipos]

9. Since when is 0 "A LOT" of delegates? nt

[tekisui]

11. .

:spray:

[goldcanyonaz]

14. I believe that they will be seated, once everything settles.

[jbnow]

29. They better not be. They can't seat just Florida since

MI broke same rules and both were stripped.

In Michigan the ballot only has Clinton, Kucinich and Gravel. They all agreed not to compete here and remove their names but Kucinich's request got in too late and Clinton changed her mind.

The governor, ex governor and one of the senators have all publicly said vote for someone on the ballot or don't vote. (They do support Clinton)
There is a line on the ballot that says "Write in" but the amusing thing is that if you write in any name it won't count.

Even if we support Clinton this is crazily unfair and should never be allowed to count.

[goldcanyonaz]

37. Regardless of who you support, Michigan is the one state that needs to be heard.

Their economy is screwed, and, that's putting it kindly.

[jbnow]

42. But MI wouldn't be heard by that nt

[truebrit71]

34. Nope. Not gonna happen. They were told of the consequences, they did it anyway so they lose....

...if the Hillaryistas try to get them seated the convention will basically grind to a halt as other candidates start filing lawsuits...

The net net? HRC gets a boatload of nothing...

[Proud2BAmurkin]

17. As predicted nt

nt

[Occam Bandage]

19. A lot of delegates? I suppose in comparison to Anti-fornia,

which actually takes votes away from you, Florida's zero delegates are great to have.

[bunnies]

20. Also a lot of retirees.

Isnt that one of Hillarys strongest voting blocs?

edit: sp

[antiimperialist]

21. Obamaniacs are rooting for millions not to be counted

it is what a heated campaign does to us humans sometimes...

[IndianaGreen]

25. Hey, blame Howard Dean and the DNC, including Donna Brazile

They are the ones that voted to punish Florida and Michigan.

What's next for the Clintonistas, blame Obama for today's Northeastern?

[Occam Bandage]

26. "Rooting for?" Link?

[antiimperialist]

27. this thread is the link. do you feel sadness in them? nt

[Occam Bandage]

33. Seems like matter-of-fact corrections. Florida doesn't have delegates.

The state went against the party, and the party voted to punish the state's voters. It is what it is.

[IndianaGreen]

38. The OP is engaged in flamebait. The facts involving FL & MI are well known.

Blaming Obama for what the DNC did takes the cake!

[durrrty libby]

30. They can

Hope all they want that the delegates won't count but it wont Change

the facts. They will count.

[AZ Criminal JD]

28. Anyone who thinks Florida and Michigan's delegates

won't count is living in an alternative universe. The party will not allow a floor fight over the seating two large states needed for the November election. They will be seated but Mr. Dean may not keep his.

[Cha]

47. WE'll see ..

won't we.

[AZ Criminal JD]

48. Yes we will

[JackORoses]

31. Florida and Michigan, the last fading hopes of Hillarism

Sorry, sHillary. Your scheme to use non-existent delegates to shore up your chances will fail miserably.

You might non even beat "Uncommitted" in MI. How embarrassing would that be?

[Scurrilous]

35. A reminder..

Early voting begins Monday in Florida

I think I'll stop by during lunch tomorrow and vote for Obama. :thumbsup:

[antiimperialist]

40. Obamaniacs seem so confident about FL...just like in NH

The more excited you are about the prospect of FL not counting, the worse you will be shocked that it wasnt so.

Learn from past lessons.

[cali]

41. heh. have you seen the new CA poll. Obama's catching her

he's within the margin of error. Poor hill, having to depend on FL and MI as firewalls. How pathetic is that?

oh, and this has zippo to do with polling being off in NH.

[antiimperialist]

44. Isn't Clinton up 16% in California? I don't think that's margin of error n/t

[AngryAmish]

43. See what Florida does, then do the opposite

The main problem with Florida is that it is filled with Floridians. That is one screwed up state.