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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:55 PM
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BREAKING: Clinton Surrogate Robert Johnson Talks of Obama Drug Use While Hillary On Stage With Him!
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 08:11 PM by Dems Will Win

Clinton Supporter Johnson: "Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood -­
and I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book..."


Gee Whiz, what a strategery to win SC and the black vote! Have loose cannon, SS privatization fan, estate tax foe and Bush enabler Robert Johnson of BET bring up Obama's teenage drug use while Hil WAS ON THE STAGE with him!

Sam Stein
The Huffington Post
Pro-Clinton BET Founder Attacks Obama, Hints At Past Drug Use
January 13, 2008 06:23 PM

Robert L. Johnson, the billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television, injected himself into the middle of a flaring campaign controversy on Sunday. During an appearance with Sen. Hillary Clinton, he seemingly raised the specter of Sen. Barack Obama's youthful drug use.

Speaking to a crowd in Columbia, South Carolina, the African-American business tycoon chastised Obama for a memo his campaign put together documenting instances in which Clinton or her surrogates made allegedly racially-insensitive statements.

"I am frankly insulted," Johnson declared, "that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood -­ and I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book -­ when they have been involved."

The comment was greeted with ire by the Obama campaign. In the past, Clinton surrogates have raised the drug issue. Hours later, Johnson claimed he was simply referring to Obama's work as a community organizer.

...

Johnson served on President George Bush's commission on privatizing social security. In January 2005, he convened a summit whose stated purpose was to raise and answer questions about the African American community's political affiliations, but whose true design, critics claim, was to peal black voters away from the Democratic Party.

He has repeatedly called for the repeal of the estate tax, saying that the policy is propagated by "a liberal, noblesse oblige attitude that they have probably had in their families for generations."


...

There are political and policy agreements as well. And in the wake of his controversial comments, Johnson was forced to reiterate those.

"My comments today were referring to Barack Obama's time spent as a community organizer, and nothing else. Any other suggestion is simply irresponsible and incorrect," said Johnson in an email statement. "When Hillary Clinton was in her twenties she worked to provide protections for abused and battered children and helped ensure that children with disabilities could attend public school. That results oriented leadership -- even as a young person -- is the reason I am supporting Hillary Clinton."

In a statement about Johnson, Obama spokesman Bill Burton said, "His tortured explanation doesn't hold up against his original statement. And it's troubling that neither the campaign nor Senator Clinton -- who was there as the remark was made - is willing to condemn it as they did when another prominent supporter recently said a similar thing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/13/proclinton-bet-founder-a_n_81286.html


The hits to Hillary's campaign just keep coming.

PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU WISH HILLARY WOULD STOP ALREADY!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:57 PM
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1. Here come the posters that say Hillary had nothing to do with it in 3...2...1...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:46 PM
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30. hillary's hoping no one will notice this.. like
her whole record and serious gaps in judgement.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:56 PM
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33. Obama and Hillary are using surrogates to smear - it must be a tight race?
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dewdav Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:05 PM
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114. Oh we're dumb-she didnt know and he wasnt saying that!
While I do not believe Clinton's comments diminished or were an attempt to diminish the contributions of MLK I do take issue with her and Robert Johnson (now BOB). First, regardless of what is publicly stated that "Bob" made his statement on his own. I am certain that there was some discussion with the Clinton campaign and/or Hillary herself on what was going to be expressed. Even as a small business owner, I discuss with people who represent me, how, what, when etc. they are to represent me and/or my company. I DO NOT believe for a second that no one knew what he was going to say. She is running for the highest office in the nation: I don’t see the Clinton campaign leaving anything to chance--especially the black vote--which bring me to my issue with "Bob" Johnson. Point 1. Your momma named you Robert: Your name is Robert-not BOB! Point 2. How dare you allow someone to use you, or rather your skin, to undermine someone attempting to be a better person regardless of it being Obama. Your actions have now made you an analogy—Ward Connerly is to Affirmative Action as Bob Johnson is to progress. Then you insult EVERYONE by backtracking on your statement that you were not referring to his drug use (You aren’t squeaky clean brother and neither are the Clintons). Now, who is the greatest offender/insulter? Well, I stop know. Clinton’s job is done. Use trick number #1: Find a black person to speak out negatively about another black person on their behalf and then distance themselves in the media. Allow his/her own people to take him/her to task for the comments made while we reap the benefits of the buffoon. Wow, you are smarter than that and I’m amazed that you did not see that coming—or maybe you did!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:57 PM
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2. Breaking! Lincoln Assassinated!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:14 AM
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83. Let me guess, they'll blame Hillary
:D
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:00 PM
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BET shows some great programming like whores, pimps, drug dealers and other fun stuff
At least BET has great programming...

:sarcasm:

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:00 PM
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3. He used Barack's Community Activism as a SLAM against him?
That's what we are supposed to believe? Give me a break. He was clearly in the middle of an Obama slam and he chooses to slam him with community activsim?

Um no. Try again.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:03 PM
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8. We all know he was not referring to community activism n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:23 PM
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22. But that's what he would have us believe.
Does he take us for fools?
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:45 PM
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95. he thinks he's some master of rhetoric.

he planned this carefully crafted defense well in advance.

he wrote his speech to go right up to the edge and then say "oh no i meant _community activism_".

as you observe, this is "semi-smart" but not actually smart because the context is all wrong.

he is doing a karl rove pirouette. the freakshow.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:58 PM
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46. Exactly. n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:00 PM
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4. Nice company she's keeping.
I wonder if Hillary will ever realize she's being used to destroy the Democratic party.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:00 PM
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5. More crap from her campaign
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:02 PM
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6. HRC needs to take responsibilty for the statements of her surrogates
As with everything, the buck stops with the candidate at the top of the campaign. Their surrogates are speaking for them, so the responsibility for their stupid statements comes back to the candidate.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:21 PM
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19. You mean the same way Obama took responsibility
for Jesse Jackson Jr's vile sexist remark?
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:47 PM
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96. i have to say one thing.

what happens when the Repugnicans start bringing up this drugs issue ?

what then ? how will he respond ? they will say "what kind of role model is this?" how will obama respond ?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:03 PM
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7. Hillary would pounce on Obama's mother if she could - whatever it takes at this stage of the game...
Hillary is starting her own smear canpaign
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:05 PM
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9. Was he lying?
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 08:05 PM by Lirwin2
Funny how nobody here thinks that mentioning shrub's drug use is out of bounds, but dare one mention Obama's own past...
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:08 PM
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10. Its not strange. Obama admitted his drug use and explained quitting was the turning point of his
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 08:10 PM by Dems Will Win
life. Dubya never admitted it, even though he did community service for getting caught with cocaine.

Dubya always was denying and hiding it.

Big Difference!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:10 PM
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11. Yet isn't the cornerstone of Obama's campaign his superior judgement?
Sheesh, my 9 year old sister knows that drugs are bad...
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:15 PM
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16. Oh really? Did she grow up as a black teenager in a low-income high school?
Brilliant!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #16
55. Don't make excuses for Obama
...it looks bad IMHO.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:00 AM
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79. For that matter...........
What about Bill Clinton's admitting he smoked pot!! "Didn't inhale" my ass!!! Do you really believe, in the era that he and Hill were in college, and activists in the "flower child" era, that dear sweet Hillary didn't partake as well??? I'm 69 years old today, and in the late 60's, my husband and I tried it a few times for experimental purposes. If you think she is "lily white" I have a bridge I can sell you. She needs to be careful who she and others call the kettle black!!!B-) :shrug:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:13 AM
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81. lol
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 01:15 AM by HughMoran
I smoked pounds and pounds of weed when I was growing up in the 70's.

I assume they all did it. In fact, I hope they did - I don't want a stupid nerd president anyway :D
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:50 PM
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97. HAHAHA !!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

have you seen that photo of Bill & Hill with that sunshiney scraggly beard and hippie librarian chic look ?

i guess i'll roll another number for the road
i feel able to get under any load
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:19 AM
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84. Could we cut it with the low-income high school. Obama went to the most prestigious
prep school in the Islands. He went on a scholarship, but he certainly did not go to a low income high school. Punahou is Hawaii's Exeter, if you will.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #16
91. No. Neither did Obama.
He attended a private high school in Hawaii, that hardly looks "low-income" to this public school graduate:

http://www.punahou.edu/page.cfm?p=15

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. I guess you can't remember the 70's- 80's..
Fun was had by all. I don't know anyone who would lie about that. Maybe you should ask Mom or Dad?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:25 PM
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25. I wasn't alive in the 70's
Believe it or not, some of us students actually pay attention to Obama's record, not just his words. That's why we support Hillary.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:44 PM
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29. That explains a lot. Like the complete lack of political context.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:21 PM
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41. Yes...I understand that...
that's why I said...maybe you should ask your parents. And..you should really check out Hillary's record...there's a lot more paper on her..than there is on Obama. You sound like a smart person...look it up!
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:54 PM
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98. She should have the courage to put Obama's drug use in the spotlight herself.

She does not need to have awful proxies like this BET schmuck do her hatchet work for her.

That kind of politics is incredibly ugly.

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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #11
35. So....if one has done drugs,
...then one cannot have superior judgment? That's the inference. Please confirm your meaning or squirm out of this one, your choice.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. No, but it's certainly a factor to consider
I don't see how merely mentioning his drug use is a taboo.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. Yes, but he admitted it and wrote about it
It was in this context that you replied. So have you given it consideration? Does this weigh against Barack Obama for you?
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:57 PM
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99. Just like Edwards asks us forgiveness for the IWR vote.

Look, Obama has come around and asked for forgiveness and called it an inflection point.

Obama supporters have zero justification for anguish over Edwards' IWR vote if they think as you do that Obama's careful reflection and repudiation of drug use is within bounds.

I think it is, and I think Edwards must be forgiven by you for his vote on the IWR. Clinton, who stands by her vote, not so much.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #38
80. How many times should they "merely
mention his drug use" before it should be taboo? Do you also believe Bill Clinton didn't inhale? Did Hillary ever try drugs? These are things we leave to the repukes to question - coming from Hillary's camp over and over and over, it shows desperation, and a woman who will do or say anything to win. The suggestion that he may have dealt drugs was a little over the top I would say.

Obama's youthful drug experimentation has nothing to do with anything that should be being talked about. If Hillary is so damn experienced, she should talk about her "35"???? years of experience and stop baselessly and secretly attacking her main rival for something he freely admitted and explained.

Is there NOTHING in her dirty political games that you won't defend?
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #11
92. I hope you remember that when your sister tokes up or drinks for the first time
because in all likeliness, it will happen in the next 5 or 6 years
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. No, he wasn't. But that's not the point. No one should bring out Obama's drug use...
because Obama doesn't want to have to discuss the issue candidly. This is what Senator Clinton means by "vetted", if Obama is not vetted now and he gets the nomination...we can all be sure the repubs will bring the issue up.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Bingo.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #12
24. Ya think? So, he won't get to keep that free pass he's been holding onto...
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. I certainly hope not...
I don't think the "librul" media :eyes: is going to let Obama slide through like they did for bush. No one asked bush any of the hard questions and the MSM was complicit in shoving him down our throats...Obamabots would like to hope for that same exact thing to happen to their candidate...but the MSM is not going to roll over for Obama...and I don't think they should.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #12
54. He wrote a book...
and made reference to it...himself. How much more candid do you want? Names and dates from a party he went to 30-40 years ago? For toking a joint and doing a line? Where do you people come from? The J.Edgar Hoover/McCarthy wing of DU?...maybe he's mentioned in some MLK files? Have you, or have you ever smoked pot in high school?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. No. Never smoked pot, ciggies or anything....
...and snorting cocaine is about as interesting to me as shooting heroin into my eyeball. Is that bad?:shrug:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #58
62. How old are you?..
Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, Crosby Stills Nash& Young, Grateful Dead, ...Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll...ring any bells?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix died from heroin overdoses...WOW...HOW COOL!!!
I'm 88 years old. Could be I'm out of the loop?:shrug:

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. No..not cool...sign of the times..
Remember that one? I think I understand where you are coming from. Things will never be the same again.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #71
76. You know what?
I don't really care what Obama did (prior drug use would NOT keep me from voting for him). I give him credit for being up~front. But it will be a point he will have to contend with if he gets the nomination. Other than that...I bid you peace, fellow DU'er. And nighty-noodles to you...it's late and I must get some shut~eye.:hi:
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #65
89. Jimi Hendrix did not die from a heroin overdose
You are out of the loop.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #89
109. nope, he choked on his own vomit after taking sleeping pills/drinking wine
At least that's the generally accepted version.

A tried and true way for rockers to die (see,e.g. Keith Moon, John Bonham, Bon Scott)
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #65
103. WOW ! you're 88 ?!?!

super cool.
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #12
93. So hillary is doing him a favor?
Thank goodness, for a second I thought this was a sleazy underhanded attack on another democratic candidate
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #93
111. No. No favor. Just the facts...
He admitted to doing so, what has he got to be afraid of? Let the voters know what they are getting...you have a problem with that?:shrug:
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #111
113. yes, id say i do
but not in the way your describing,, its almost insinuating that while hillary will be hard at work all the time if she wins, obama will be sittin the oval office snorting a line or toking up or something

he has admitted to it, and if hillary had admitted to doing drugs as a teenager, and one of obamas supporters brought it up in this way, id have the same problem with it

it is a non issue and its just being used to create negative associations in voters minds
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #12
104. HILLARY needs to bring up the issue.

Not this BET schmuck.

Even her friendship with him shows me the ugliness we'd be supporting should Hillary get the nod.

I'd support her over the Repugnican, but she wouldn't win.

GO JOHN EDWARDS !!!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:11 PM
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13. I wish they would BOTH stop it already..
I can only hope that people will wise up and there will be a backlash to these two and their dirty politics.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Please link to where the Obama campaign has used dirty smears like drug use
on the Clintons...
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Accusing Bill Clinton of racism for his "fairy tale" comment..
is DIRTY POLITICS. Nothing you or anyone else says can convince me otherwise. The Obama campaign twisted Clinton's words and ran with a story they had to have known was an empty smear.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:43 PM
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28. Actually it was a neutral parties like Clyburn and Brazile who took it wrong
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 08:44 PM by Dems Will Win
So you won't be able to find a link there!

TRY AGAIN! Better luck next time...

Give me a link now -- not your misinformed opinions.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #28
40. And Michelle Obama is a neutral party?
She used it in her speech today. As I said, Obama's campaign has been all too happy to continue pouring fuel on the fire.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:53 PM
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44. Misinformed?
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 10:54 PM by girl gone mad
"At an awards dinner Sunday in Atlanta celebrating black achievement, Michelle Obama said her husband is the person America needs in the White House right now and was critical of anyone who would "dismiss this moment as an illusion, a fairy tale." He is the right candidate "not because of the color of his skin, but because of the quality and consistency of his character," she said.

As evidence the Obama campaign had pushed the story, Clinton advisers pointed to a memo written by an Obama staffer compiling examples of comments by Clinton and her surrogates that could be construed as racially insensitive. The memo later surfaced on a handful of political Web sites."


http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4128487

Obama has been willing to sink every bit as low as Clinton. There's just a couple of links for you. Your candidate is no saint.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #28
57. We need a fair and equitable "surrogate" accusation rule. n/t
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. Senator Clinton hasn't snorted cocaine...if she had we would have heard about it....
Obama's hands are not clean when it comes to dirty tricks...read the article I am providing you a link to and find out for yourself.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2007/11/09/obama-campaign-placed-anti-hillary-stories-press-where-msm-outra
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #13
48. BOTH?
:rofl:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #13
63. There's only one side playing...
boomerang...
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:18 PM
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17. Just like the Swiftboat vets went after a vet ...anyone can be bribed to attack
it seems.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:22 PM
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21. Staring to almost dislike the mere sight of Hillary, something like seeing Bush!!!
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #21
69. Funny I felt that way about Obama when he pandered to that homophobe McClurkin...
The mere mention of Obama's name brings to mind bible thumping bigotry and george w. bush.


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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #69
105. you two chill out.

support John Edwards. He's the best candidate we've had since RFK and he needs your support.

if you hate each others' candidates so much, you must both see that your candidates are leading you into discord.

John Edwards supporters DEFEND him against the attacks of M$M as well as Obama and Hillary supporters. We defend him with a clear conscience. But increasingly it seems as though the firefight is leaving him unscathed.

You two have encapsulated EXACTLY why Edwards is going to win the Democratic nomination. When this happens, PLEASE join us in our support (hell, join us now !!! :) )
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:56 PM
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112. John Edwards is a fine man and I'm sure he would make a wonderful president...
but I'm afraid his candidacy is not getting much traction. If he were to win in Nevada~~~which is possible~~~he would definitely BE IN THE RACE. It would be very exciting and I'm sure a boon to his supporters. If Edwards were to get the nomination I not only would vote for him I would gladly campaign for him as well.

And welcome to DU.:hi:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
26. So Robert Johnson sold his soul to the devil at the crossroads
again!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. I knew someone would bring up the great blues songwriter!
Congratulations!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:48 PM
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32. hillary keeps moving the shark
post.
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #32
106. hillary has jumped the shark !!!!
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 07:11 PM by stickernation
:rofl:

seriously, these are the issues with which she decides to take up my valuable time !!!!!!!!!

so she is RECYCLING THE "HE INHALED" ATTACK !!! !!! :rofl:

she is running out of episode material, and they'll come up with the Hillary Suits Up And Jumps The Shark Script as a last resort !!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:59 PM
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34. the most important question is why is she associating with this guy who ...
sat on a commission on privatizing social security
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #34
86. AHA!
I was wondering when someone would take a look at this connection.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:26 PM
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36. And they had to find a black person to do it. Wow. n/t
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #36
42. A black person who made much of his wealth...
overseeing a network that often amounts to little more than a never-ending minstrel show.

Now watch those that complain be accused of "pulling the race card."
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #36
47. plantation politics. there's nothing new under the sun.
i think we need something new, in spite of that.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:27 PM
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37. Doing it is bad enough but the denial is insufferable.
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knowledgeispwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. How stupid do they think people are?
Do they really believe we think he was referring to community activism?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:57 PM
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45. A black person supports Hillary over Obama and they become a sell-out.
:eyes:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. No
A black person who supports Hillary over Obama engages in gutter politics and we're supposed to ignore it because he's a black person who supports Hillary.

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #49
51. No.
You can't stand the fact that he's supporting Hillary.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #51
78. Douchebaggery is color-blind
Hillary is welcome to this asshat's support. Bob Johnson built his fortune by peddling modern-day Steppin' Fetchit acts (oh, sorry, "music videos"), he played the race card to attack the estate tax, of all things, and he's for phasing out Social Security. He'd be a douchebag no matter the color of his skin.

Enjoy him all you want.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:02 PM
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50. I'm enraged. I don't know what to say.
Really, this is... I didn't expect Hillary and her cronies to do this.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #50
68. Ever since Hillary said that Al-Qaeda would attack the US if Obama or Edwards were President
there is no sewer low enough for Hillary to drag us through.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:10 PM
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52. In 1998, Bill Clinton was doing something in the White House
and I won't say what he was doing...
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #52
60. was he being infantile?
I can't remember, remind us?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:11 PM
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53. Link to the video
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:16 PM
Response to Original message
56. next week on BET, "Pimp My Candidate"
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. great pic!
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:20 PM
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61. This is getting out of control
This fighting between the two's supporters/campaigns is just getting out of control, we're all shooting ourselves in the foot with this fighting.

Hillary Clinton and her campaign/supporters (like the one in this story) are really disgusting me now. They think they're helping themselves by trying to fan this controversy and blame it on Obama, but in my eyes it just makes them look really immature, desperate, and stupid. I mean claiming he was referring to what Obama did as a community organizer, as something so bad he couldn't discuss it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:34 PM
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64. Some people are carrying on like Hillary is a republican
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:19 PM
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107. KARL ROVE IS CACKLING !!!

Support John Edwards, who is CLEARLY ABOVE THIS !!!

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:43 PM
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66. More evidence of Hillary as the Great Polarizer!
She brings out the worst in everyone.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:49 PM
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67. I don't think Obama can expect that
everyone is going to be ok with his past drug use just because he's written about it and talked about it. No, some people are going to say, I still think you were a jerk for using. Johnson is one of the latter.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:52 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. The comment was nasty and unnecessary
especially coming from someone with a dubious past that promoted drugs, mysogyny and gangsta culture on his TV channel.

Mr. Johnson is a piece of shit. Sorry, but it has to be said.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. Hey, that's your opinion
Johnson didn't say anything new about Obama, he just isn't giving him a pass on his past drug use. That's the way it's going to go on this issue.

If Hillary had an abortion when she was his age, the same thing would happen.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:00 AM
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74. You give him a pass because he's behind Hillary.
And, no, I don't expect to do anything else. This is politics, after all. Still, I'm really hoping all of this backlashes on her campaign.

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #74
77. Like I said
everyone's going to have an opinion about it, that's life. Johnson isn't going to be the harshest critic on this by a long shot.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:59 PM
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73.  Clinton wants this to be a fight over race. Then it's about the past
And Obama becomes the angry young black man.

FUCK THAT

Obama is the future and his positive message is what we have to focus on. Let them rant and just come back with

OBAMA WILL UNDO BUSH'S SIGNING STATEMENTS, SO THERE!



ETC.!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #73
75. Hillary's campaign will hopefully drown in its own shit.
I've never seen something as nasty as this, including the swiftboating of Kerry in 04.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #70
88. Does BHO's admitted cocaine use give him a "dubious" past? Some would say so.
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #70
108. it IS hysterically hypocritical !!!

Seriously.

Hillary Clinton coming out and talking about Obama's drug use HERSELF would have been interesting.

Hillary using THIS PARTICULAR PROXY strikes me as BONE-HEADED.

Wow. What a TOTAL whiff on reality here folks. How will she figure out Palestine with moves this foolish in her playbook ?
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:11 AM
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82. Johnson served on President George Bush's commission on privatizing social security. Really????
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 03:16 AM by 1776Forever
Again we see Bush's influence in the Clinton world. NAFTA, taking money from the Corp's and signing the 1995 Communication Act that made Murdock a bigger king then he all ready was - and what did Bill do - we won't go there. I don't think personal jabs are good for the debate - and neither is the one that Hillary allowed to go on about Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:headbang:
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candymarl Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:30 AM
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85. Oh come on!
This should stop already. He was young. He made a mistake. He admitted it. Where was the media when it came to our current Resident's drug use? He said "I won't talk about it". The media dropped the subject. This is shameful of Hillary and her advisers. This is a sure-fire way to lose the African-American vote. x(
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:17 AM
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87. Connections
Johnson served on President George Bush's commission on privatizing social security. Really????

Should we focus on who Hillary sees as a positive connection?

Does she want to promote her connections with George Bush?

How does that help her?

How does that threaten We the People?

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:34 PM
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90. No wonder the corporations love Clinton...

she has managed to turn this election into a discussion of non-issues between herself and Obama, while our attention is distracted away from War and corporatism. Won't she make a great president? Just what the corporatist media needs, someone to help them with the distraction.
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:14 PM
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94. Hillary is SCUM
n/t
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:59 PM
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100. The 'community organizer' explanation is bullshit...
...but this is politics and let's not forget Michelle Obama's crack about Hillary not being able to 'control her own house' so how could she control the White House, etc. Michelle is also Barack's surrogate and she said what she said, which in my view was also bullshit. Not to mention the fact that Michelle was basically blaming Hillary for Bill's philandering ways.

It's primary season and this is full-on attack dog, kill or be killed political jockeying going on. No one is immune, and no one is blameless.

It represents the worst of our political process but it's about as old as that other profession. The day this kind of mudslinging garbage disappears from the campaign trail is the day, oh, I don't know...I'll eat my hat or something.;-)
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:59 PM
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101. I am on board with this (as spoken in Clinglish)
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 07:01 PM by bushmeat

Go Edwards & Obama!

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:59 PM
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102. I'm really getting sick of Clinton surrogates playing dirty...
...and Hillary acting innocent.

Sometimes when something smells like shit, that's exactly what it is.
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stickernation Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #102
110. THIS IS A TOTAL HILLARY CLINTON DISASTER.

Hillary Clinton supporters need to do some serious soul-searching RIGHT NOW.

Consider the campaign your candidate is conducting. Is it the way YOU would run your campaign? No?

You should not sleep tonight without re-considering your support of her.

Explain to me why I should accept powerful rogues like this BET schmuck within the inner circle of Clinton "power tools".

There are positive reasons you have earlier found in her to justify your support, but it is manifestly Hillary's wish to run with the DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE.

This is so ugly, and it makes your candidate much uglier than I had ever before thought.

Please consider switching your candidate support to John Edwards, who as President will work with Hillary Clinton as an esteemed member of the U.S. Senate in order to change the direction in which this country is going.

She should not be campaigning for the Presidency if she makes blunders like this.

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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 06:39 PM
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115. is attacking a repug on drug use acceptable? when will obama folks stop making the same mistake
over and over again? every word that comes out of clinton supporters' mouth is not racist; now, i'm not saying this is a winning political point for clinton, since so many people have used drugs, that they may not want to cast a lot of blame, but there isn't anybody on this board who wouldn't think drug use was a legitimate issue to raise against a repuke candidiate or a white dem in the primaries.
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