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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:54 PM
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Breaking NY Times National Poll: Clinton 42 Obama 27 Edwards 11
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/us/politics/14cnd-npoll.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

The poll’s findings are based on a national telephone survey conducted Jan. 9-12 with 1,061 registered voters; it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM
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1. 20% undecided...
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:04 PM
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11. If NH is the rule, the undecideds will go to Clinton.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:07 PM
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17. And if Iowa is the rule? (N/T)
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM
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19. Then the corner with the best cookies will get the most second choicers.
Mmmm cookies!
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:09 PM
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23. HAHAHA, good call
I do like good cookies. Those really soft iced cookies from Lofthouse!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM
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18. But state to state, it can't be considered a certainty.
Just as women over 60 voted for her in Iowa, but women over 40 voted for her in NH.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM
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2. As it should be. Thanks
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:57 PM
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3. Is this the CNN poll we were talking about earlier this morning?
If so, it looks like its going to be an outlier when compared to Rasmussen and ABC
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:58 PM
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6. Doesn't the ARG poll out today
pretty much match this one?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:05 PM
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15. I'm not sure about that, but...
... even if it does, you'll have two saying one thing and two saying another.


Rassmussen's tracking poll has been my baseline all cycle.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM
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21. There's an ABC/WaPo poll due out that Drudge is hyping as showing Barack closing
Doesn't seem to be out yet, though.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:05 PM
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14. No
this appears to be different from the CNN poll.

This is the third poll in two days showing a large Clinton lead.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:05 PM
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16. This Is A New York Times/CBS Poll
ABC hasn't released a poll recently...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:09 PM
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22. NEW WASHPOSTABCNEWS POLL: LARGE SHIFT TO OBAMA ... DEVELOPING...
They are about to.
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mrmx9 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:10 PM
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30. ABC News Poll has Clinton 42% Obama 37% and Edwards 11%
The newly released ABC poll has Clinton up by 5% amongst Democrats - but Obama has gained 14 points and Clinton has lost 11 points since their last poll (Dec 9) with Edwards standing still on 11%

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Vote2008/story?id=4128343&page=1
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:12 PM
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32. You mean Clinton News Network...
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 08:14 PM by elizm
:boring:
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:13 PM
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43. gonna bring that one out of retirement eh? nt
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:57 PM
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4. Can't trust the polls. Too many unknowns - and excludes a large voter block (cell users) n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM
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10. Too many undecideds.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:13 PM
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25. Agreed on that one too.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:57 PM
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5. Is this a surprise? That's her home state.
Hopefully she'll carry Arkansas as well.

But we'll actually let the elections take place, unless Hillary decides to block the voters.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM
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9. Um, it's a national poll sample
Paper: New York Times
Subject matter: National poll
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:05 PM
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13. "That's her home state."? LOL. Yes, she lives in America,
:crazy:
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:59 PM
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7. National polls are soo not relevant
This is not a national election. It's several state elections. State elections do carry weight, and even those haven't been accurate.
National numbers may and do change after every state contest.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:12 PM
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33. Snapshot - relevant for the day they are taken. Can change with the next news
Usually, different primary results would alter it.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM
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8. Who are these people talking to?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:04 PM
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12. Americans.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM
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20. Not the ones I identify with (n/t)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:08 PM
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37. Well, there goes the "unity" thing.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:09 PM
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40. after the nominee has been decided, I'm all for unity
Until then...
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:12 PM
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24. McCain vs. Clinton changes nothing
If this is the best we can do in this country, then we're in worse shape than we thought.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:17 PM
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26. Right...the inevitable one.
hillary's smeared and jeered her way up onto her freakshow pedestal again.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:24 PM
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27. Inevitable
Hillary seems to be as inevitable in this year's democratic nomination fight as George W. Bush was in 2000, which may indicate that she just might win the presidency.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:40 PM
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28. well if that`s the case there`s no need to worry--i`ll just-->

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:43 PM
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29. Can we finally put to rest the myth that Edwards supporters would go to Obama?
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:02 AM
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44. if edwards drops he'll endorse obama
many of his supporters may follow
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:11 PM
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31. geeezussss! e're still into 'polls' how gowsh!!!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:13 PM
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34. National polls are not relevant until after SC
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:15 PM
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35. And the only way Clinton wins SC is to steal it. nt
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:16 PM
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36. Nice!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:27 PM
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39. How did you find out about our plan?
We're sending James Carville out with a tank, and has been authorized to "shoot to kill" any non-Hillary supporters he can find.

I thought we could keep this under wraps for a few more days...
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:22 PM
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38. National and state polls are starting to widen for Hillary....post NH...
...and maybe that explains the sudden racism memes from the Obama campaign.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:10 PM
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41. National polls at this point are a waste of time
Just ask Guilliani
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:11 PM
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42. Just Popularity.......
Obama is new on the scene. The Polls will change.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:06 AM
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45. Relax. Means little. Victories for Obama in NV and SC
change everything.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:40 AM
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46. Clinton/Obama 2008
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:48 AM
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47. I am of the strong opinion and I agree with the gov of michigan
that the democrats in 2012 have got to come up with a better format in the nomination process. This caucus crap needs to be replaced with folks actually casting a vote.

I say we should place all 50 states in a bowl numbered 1 - 50 and states numbered 1 - 10 will begin casting votes on the second tuesday in janaury and 14 days later the next 10( 11-20) and then 14 days later(21-30 etc 31-40 etc 41-50.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:49 AM
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48. And the folks casting a vote actually need to be
registered Dems.
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