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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:20 PM
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For the People that are BEING THERE (The ramblings of a tired Activist)
I haven’t done a major post in a few days. I’ve checked in at a thread here and there, came to the defense of my candidate, and I’ve given some encouragement, when I felt it was needed.

Have I been on vacation? Hardly. Am I perhaps taking a little sabbatical from the campaign? From what has become my passion? Not a chance. I’m working, and I’m working everyday to help John Edwards become President.

I sometimes wonder at the group of regulars that I see here. Attack, attack, attack seems to be the constant motto. I guess that’s okay, people gotta be who they are, after all. What I’ve noticed, in the last few days, as I’ve played the role of the a ‘watcher’, is some people seem to have a little too much time on their hands. Another thing I've noticed? Some of these people actually believe they are helping their chosen candidate. Here’s a subtle hint for you all: Your not helping.

By all means, have fun with your attacks, and enjoy the venom you put out there into the world. No one who is doing the real work for the American people is paying any substantive attention. Sometimes, as a simple reader, I have to admit I get some great laughs, because let’s face it, a lot of this crap is funny. Weather it be about race, gender, or haircuts. Now I really want you to know this: None of what you are doing is making any difference at all. Your attack efforts, while passionate, are fruitless. I can leave for a week, come back, and the same arguments are right here where I left them, and nothing has changed. Of course there’s a new wrinkle or two; election fraud, and voter repression, and always the opinions, lots of opinions, and little if any, in the way of facts.

I love it. Way to go people! The M$M would be proud of the way you people here on DU are ignoring the real issues that affect American people everyday. Keep swallowing that sugar water they keep pouring down your throats.

What is John Edwards talking about?

1. 47 million people live everyday in fear because they have no health insurance.
2. 37 million Americans going to bed every night in poverty. How many are children?
3. Record profits by the corporate elite.
4. An ongoing war, with no real end in sight.
5. Homeless veterans. No one seemed to know we had them, until John Edwards, as he's done throughout this election, re-focused our attention.


But why should these things matter? Are you your brother/sisters keeper? Hell no, we’re Americans, right? As long as we know the winner of American Idol, and all of the RW talking points, we’re fine, right? Right?

I wonder about the fact that I see very few posts on JRE at the top of the page in GDP. I’ve been thinking about it for the few days that I’ve be mostly just been a reader here, and I do find it epically perplexing when I see him winning every poll by a margin of sometimes 3 to 1. It's hard to know what to make of it. I thought about this for a long time. Maybe there's one person out there with 50 DU accounts, and he's the deciding factor, every single time. Perhaps it's all part of John's diabolical plot. None of that clicked with me though.

Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, But after some deep thought, I figured it out. Edwards supporters are smart, informed people. We're busy. We click, vote, then go back to work. We know how little we’ll accomplish here in DU by attacking other candidates, and taking part in the Obama, or Hillary bashing. We know that the real work is done out there, on the ground, and in the trenches. We know that our voice will be heard, if we just yell loud enough.

This realization leads me to one inevitable conclusion; the people who support John Edwards are activists. We’re busy people, on the move, and we’re doing all we can out in our own communities, with our friends, and business associates, to make our support of John Edwards known. We love the information that DU brings us, but we’re far too busy to spend time arguing silly arguments with silly faceless opponents.

We’re working.

I point to Binka, who is out there doing the work of an Edwards Activist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2669158

I’m talking about Saracat, and others who are out giving speeches for John Edwards. Sara is another Edwards Activist.

I’m speaking of bobbolink, trying as hard as a person can, to form an Edwards Grassroots organization in the state of Colorado. An Edwards Activist for the Poor.

I’m waving a hand to Plucketeer, who took the road trip to Iowa, and wrote “This Land is Our Land”, Edwards style. There's a good ol' Edwards Activist.

I’m looking at myself, building a coalition of Edwards supporters to take his message beyond the election, with the Edwards Morning Mail. (Just pm me, or any of us, if you’re interested in getting off your ass, and getting something done.) I'm proud to be an Edwards Activist.

This is stuff you can’t do sitting at your desk. This is in-your-face politics. We’re not foolish, we’re a smart bunch, us well informed Edwards Supporters. We know the M$M has no interest in a candidate who threatens the status quo, a system that has let them grow fat, rich and lazy, as the citizenry has grown dimmer and duller. The Forth Estate, my ass.

I’ve been told I’m deluded for believing Edwards. I’ve been called naïve, and trust me, anyone who has ever known me would never use the word naïve to describe one of my character traits. But that’s okay, I’m sure John Edwards could have an elaborate, and evil plan to fool all of us with his words, so when he gets in the White House, he can put his real evil plan into practice. Now stop for a second, and ask yourself, does that make any sense at all? If he so badly wanted to be President, if that was all he cared about, as I’ve often been told here, then wouldn’t he have picked an easier path to the office? Why didn’t he just stay in the Senate? Or stay with the DLC? Is this all an elaborate plan to screw the American people?

Now go look in the mirror, who is really uninformed and naïve?

Would you call these people naïve?


Tell these people they’re working for nothing.


You'd never say the things you say here on DU, if you were face to face with any of these Activists.

I’ve talked to over 300 primary voters so far, either over the phone, or face to face. To a person, I find the Edwards supporters the most informed, most savvy and the most passionate. These are not hoodwinked people. These are not dumb people. These are not “wide eyed believers” as a few posters here have said. We are real people. We are out here in the real world fighting. We understand, the future of our country depends on our efforts, and putting the right person in the chair behind the desk in the Oval office is the most important thing we will ever do. It will have an effect on lives beyond ours, you see, for some of us, it really is about a better life for our children.

So if you don’t see us Edwards Supporters here on DU as much, slugging it out with the Supporters and attack dogs of other candidates, there is a simple reason for this; we are busy getting John Edwards the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. We show up in the polls here on DU, and we’re showing up on the streets, and phones, and fund raising, doing everything we can, for our candidate. Most of the posts I see from Edwards Supporters are about being there. And if you haven’t been there, what have you really done?

There is a real movement on the way here in the world oldest Democracy, and Edwards Supporters, are part of that movement. I’m inviting the rest of you to join us. If you support someone else, then I will applaud you for your activism. Let us know your there. Go be there.

And in that spirit, I beg you, post positive information about your candidate that we can use, not attacks on other candidates that we will mostly disregard. We’re all members of the same party right? Don’t let the few asinine posts lead the way for the rest of us good, fair-minded people.

If you don’t get what I’m saying, it’s okay. It’s okay if you’re not interested in joining the movement; you just sit there and keep typing. But while your typing, try to stay out of the way of the people who are really fighting for real change in America.

Join the movement.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:22 PM
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1. Did you see this? It really cheered me up. I hope you share it.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:28 PM
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3. I've been looking for this because I missed it this morning.
Thanks!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:35 PM
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4. Oh, then that was you. I pm'ed you with it a little bit ago. nt
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:14 PM
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12. thanks - this is an excellent interview; Blitzer asked good qs.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:22 PM
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2. Bravo! K and R
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:52 PM
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7. Thanks ClayZ! n/t
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:38 PM
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5. R&K!!!
Thank you for a good post.

It's easy to sit behind a keyboard to spew filth, as some do here on DU.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:46 PM
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6. Thanks Nutmegger-
One of those, well I guess I gotta say something posts.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:57 PM
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8. Count me in Rocky...
All the way to the WH!!!!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:12 PM
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11. That's what it's all about-
Thanks lisa! :hi: We're all doing everything we can.
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:01 PM
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9. Wonderful post! Thank you...I'm sending Edwards another $50
:)
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:15 PM
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13. Thank you Left coast!
And if John were here, I'm sure he'd thank you too!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:02 PM
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10. kick
:kick: and r

:patriot:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:18 PM
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14. Thanks crispini! n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:21 PM
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15. r&k for Activism v slacktivism
:kick:
Good luck to your candidate.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:47 PM
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18. Thanks MP-
And good luck to your candidate. Have you picked a new one yet?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:00 PM
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19. I'll vote for our nominee, with pride...
..but I'm writing in Richardson in our Primary if he's not on the ballot.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:06 PM
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20. Good for you, conviction matters.
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:36 PM
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16. I like to watch.
I'd also like to hear more detail about

3. Record profits by the corporate elite.

Profits are not the fundamental problem. Corporate crime is the problem. Calling it anything less is misdirection.

Would you call these people naïve?

Crucial, definitely. Sexy. yes. Naive, no.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:39 PM
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17. Well thank you RuleOfNah for your comments-
And welcome to DU. :hi:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:05 PM
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23. only half of the equation
"Record profits by the corporate elite" WHILE real wages, job security, opportunity, access to public resources, and benefits for the rest of us are collapsing.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:18 PM
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25. So true Two Americas! n/.t
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:21 PM
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26. Don't forget those predatory monopolies.
Economic hitters, etc.

Complaining about profits sounds like pie envy, that frame ignores the pie thief problems.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:25 PM
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31. Thanks for the advice.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:10 PM
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21. Hello from NE Ohio and a big kick for a spot on post! Good Job rocky!
:hi:

:yourock:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:23 PM
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27. Hey Ninga!
Thnaks for the kick! And no-
:yourock:
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:32 PM
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22. BIG K&R!
After reading some of the venom, and downright silliness, on these boards in the past few days, BRAVO, asdjrocky!

That you support the candidate I do is almost beside the point. The point is, you're doing the hard work for your candidate, instead of spewing nonsense on these boards about other candidates.

I've said over and over that those who flame (not criticize) other candidates are doing their own candidate a disservice, because like it or not, it reflects indirectly on their candidate.

And although circumstances don't permit me to work nearly as hard for Edwards as you're doing, and doing well, asdjrocky, I applaud you and all the others who are wearing down shoeleather. Thank you!

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:25 PM
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28. Thank you so much-
We all have to work together, eventually.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:10 PM
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24. Now THAT'S how you support your candidate! K and R.
I want to vote for Edwards on Feb 5th but HRC's underhanded racebaiting is really making me consider throwing my vote to Obama.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:31 PM
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29. Great post, rocky! K&R!!!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:33 PM
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30. Thanks smokey nj-
I do feel kind of guilty, because Activism is so rewarding.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:47 PM
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32. Awesome Rocky!
You're the best - Hey! I did some phone banking today! I sure hope the good folks in Horry County didn't mind ;) but it was a wonderful experience and I got to talk to some very nice Democrats... mostly for Edwards! :)
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:08 AM
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34. Good for you-
Feels kind of great, don't it? And can I get a name check on that County again? Horry?
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:07 AM
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44. Yup - Horry....
Hate to do this..."snark"
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:32 PM
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33. Thanks Rocky.
I have to vote for John Edwards even though April 22 is meaningless in the grand scheme of the primaries. I'm sick to death of the daily and ongoing racist/misogynist food fights. The only two candidates who are speaking for me and the issues that impact my everyday life are John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich. It's personal for me.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:22 AM
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35. John Edwards will guide the message-
As he has from the beginning. Vote your heart.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:35 AM
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36. Kicking myself-
into bed. Night all!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:14 AM
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37. Kickidee-
-kick kick! :kick:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:40 PM
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46. Go away kid you bother me...
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:58 AM
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38. This is a wonderful post.
Thank you so much.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:41 PM
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47. Thanks Blue!
Stay warm up there.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:03 AM
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39. As always, Rocky, your words have power; your actions, doubly so.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 04:04 AM by tom_paine
:patriot:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:53 AM
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41. I agree. Thank you, Rocky! K&R n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:42 PM
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48. Thanks Tom, good words from you mean a lot!
:patriot:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:11 AM
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40. look at the amount of money the Iraq war takes
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 06:13 AM by Skittles
thank Edwards for co-sponsoring it....and if people think I sound like a broken record, well, TOUGH. I don't let people who are complicit in ILLEGAL INVASIONS off the hook with a lame apology.

And it's YOU'RE NOT HELPING, not YOUR.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:08 AM
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42. Edwards believed the intelligence was real, as anyone would have
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 07:13 AM by tom_paine
We have the luxury of skepticism here, but had we seen the phonied up, yet official looking reports that the Bushies provided which were a tissue of lies, we might have reluctantly agreed, too.

Hindsight is 20-20, and I believe it would have been very difficult to step back and, particularly in an "official" setting, take the hard tack that the pResident was criminally treasonous and falsifying information he gave to Congress.

But like the two-bit con-man he is at his black heart, that's exactly what Bushler did.

Now, I am not forgiving Edwards for it. He was taken in by a fraudulent con. But he has also since recognized that and recanted his vote and support.

And, by being the ONLY candidate who is willing to go at these Bushie Bastards head-on, or at least talking like it (and that's more than any of the others are willing to do), that makes it worth something.

We agree to disagree, but surely you can see that you are pouring vitriol on a thread that is crying out for a cessation of the vitriol.

Yes, yes, I know I'm not perfect, but I have largely stayed away from attacking other people's candidates, and I stood on the side of transparent voting during the last big flamefest. Maybe you should talk positively about your candidate, whoever that may be, than ripping down the other candidates. THAT'S what this thread is about, so I won't respond to any flames from you or anyone here.

Feel free to pick apart my grammar, spelling, or anything else that makes you feel good for the release.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:50 PM
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52. not everyone bought that garbage
and saying he was misled now is NOT ENOUGH.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:19 PM
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53. Fine. We agree to disagree.
n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:44 PM
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49. Of course it is, my mistake....
Wow, I guess that negates everything. By the way, thanks, as usual, for steeping all over a perfectly nice post.

You must be so proud of yourself.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 09:50 AM
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43. Thank you, asdjrocky, for all you do. Kicking this up for
common sense, John Edwards and the democratic party! Recommending because we need to continue to fight the good fight, not particpate in in-fighting. The democratic party has always paved the way for all that is good and right in our country, true patriotism embracing morality, tirelessly working toward gov't that honors and serves the people.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:35 PM
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45. Thank you Mother Earth!
Wow, never thought I'd get a reply form the Mother Earth! Wait til I tell my friends.

Seriously, thanks for the post, it makes people feel good to know their work is noticed!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:16 PM
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50. K&R.
Well worth the read. Thanks.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:19 PM
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51. Thank you Kuroviski! n/t
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 07:37 AM
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54. K'd, even if I can't R: over 24 hours old.
I'd support Edwards even if I hadn't seen and been revolted by the pandering and catfighting at the top.

Damned shame I'm in Michigan: wish he hadn't pulled his name. The Repukes are going FULL BORE "WE'LL FIX EVERYTHING WE'LL GET JOBS WE'LL JUMP START THE AUTO INDUSTRY BLAH BLAH BLAH" and there are enough assholes to believe them.

I hope this Primary debacle doesn't make a Red Michigan: The state's gone rePuke before.
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