POLL: McCain thumps Hillary, 49 - 38.

[jefferson_dem]

Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds John McCain leading Hillary Clinton nationally by double digits. The survey, conducted on the two nights following New Hampshire’s Primary, shows McCain attracting 49% of the vote nationwide while Clinton earns 38%.

Among Republican voters, McCain leads 86% to 6%. However, among Democrats, Clinton’s lead is a slightly less dominant 74% to 18%. McCain leads by twenty-one points among unaffiliated voters.

This is the third straight poll showing McCain ahead of Clinton. In December, the Arizona Senator led by six points. In November, he held a narrow two-point edge.

A separate national telephone survey, conducted just before New Hampshire voted, shows McCain leading Obama 46% to 43%. That’s little changed since a December poll showing McCain with a two point advantage.

Those surveys find Mike Huckabee leading Clinton 45% to 42% while Obama leads Huckabee 45% to 43%. This is the first time a Rasmussen Reports poll has ever shown Huckabee ahead of Clinton. However, the three previous polls of that match-up each found Clinton leading Huckabee by four points or less. In December, it was Clinton 47% Huckabee 43%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/election_2008_mccain_vs_clinton_and_obama

[cali]

1. He'd thump the hell out of her.

Funny as hell that McCain is more likable than Hillary- but true. She is going to continue turning off voters like crazy. Bill she is not.

[fightindonkey]

8. Keep Dreaming Cali.

[cali]

58. Yes, that poll and many, many others is just a dream

Her high negatives are just a dream. He would cream her. And her dirty tactics won't help. At least a President McCain would be marginally better than a President Huckabee. But keep up your amazing denial- all the way to President McCain. What do you think dems are going to think of Hill when that happens?

[skipos]

How does she do with Bloomberg and Nader in the mix?

That is the likely situation of we are masochistic enough to nominate Hillary.
I imagine the results would be ugly.

[Colobo]

2. McCain 46%, Obama 43%

Obama is withing striking distance, Hillary is far away. He's our best bet.

[alfredo]

3. Reps seem to like the idea of McCain, but the reality might not

be such a good idea.

[krabigirl]

7. WHoever goes against him must remind everyone what he said about Iraq:

that he'd see us there for "the next 100 years"

[alfredo]

45. You know they will. They will also indirectly attack his age and health.

[jlake]

4. Did you note that he beats Obama as well?

[jefferson_dem]

12. That one is a three-point spread - within the MOE.

Care to compare?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Republimussen's (Actual) Margin Of Error Is Ten Points

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_hampshire/election_2008_new_hampshire_democratic_primary

[tritsofme]

51. That's a bullshit response.

There were no major polling organizations that correctly predicted the NH Dem race.

Over the past three election cycles Rasmussen's record has been sterling.

[jlake]

19. Yes.

If the poll is completely accurate, a loss is a loss. PERIOD.
Secondly, All of Clinton's Negatives are a known commodity. Obama is a blank slate and has not been vetted.
Once he is held under the same scrutiny as Hillary, and in the process of a GE campaign, we would see the real numbers....

[Yael]

41. This country hasn't had 15 years of Obama playing Clinton scorched earth tactics

she HAS been vetted, and people have made up their mind. That isn't a good thing...

[karynnj]

62. That assumes that knowledge of the candidate

always leads down. What if Obama is able to implicitly answer the experience question as various people have when they endorsed him.
If it is seen that he has good judgement, has the ability to listen to various experts, ask the right questions, and then make good decisions, he would be better than someone, who might have been near power longer who shuts out all but the inner circle.

Last August, a person I knew well had the chance to speak to Richard Clarke at a wedding. He said that he was working with Obama, that he was smart and picked things up quickly and asked good questions. That he is also speaking to Gary Hart, co-author of the terrorism report and Senator Kerry makes me thing that he is picking the people whose judgment I trust most on foreign policy and national security.

Looking at how often he has sponsored amendments with Senator Feingold and his own background and comments as a Constitutional Law professor, I am comfortable with how he would act on issues like unitary President and other issues. In Rovian fashion, HRC attacked him on the Patriot Act when in fact his criticisms with the original bill and his voting for an improved but not perfect was not a flip flop. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4055743&mesg_id=4055758 and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4055743&mesg_id=4057479) Though HRC mocked it, Obama did manage to do some very good work on the ethics bill - much to Schumer's dissatisfaction. As can be seen here http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/20/us/politics/20ethics.html?scp=1&sq=Senate+Ethics+bill+lobbyists+bundling HRC even voted to table the Demint amendment that incorporated the tougher Pelosi measures. The motion to table that had it succeeded would have embarrassed the Democrats was defeated when people like Feingold, Kerry, Obama, Webb and other Democrats voted against it. These are the people who really want ethics laws - even when they are the party in power.

[Didereaux]

5. yeah, yeah and CNN has her 1 pt up....did you learn nothing from NH?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. We Learned That If Obama Is Up By Eight Points In Aggreate Polling On Election Eve He Will Lose By

Three Points...

That means if we don't go in to Election Tuesday with a twelve point lead we might lose...Never mind the last time a candidate had that kind of lead on Election Eve was Ronald Reagan in 1984...

[tritsofme]

52. 49-38 is a meaningless number.

The 13% that are undecided are what make this poll more lopsided than it appears.

[cali]

60. Really? We learned all that from on small state? Amazing

I expect more intelligence from you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Republimussen-The Pollster With The Ten Percent Margin Of Error

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_hampshire/election_2008_new_hampshire_democratic_primary


At least you're not pimping Zogby who had a SIXTEEN POINT Margin of Error:


http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0433304720080108

But let's look at all the polls where the bad ones and the good ones can be measured against one another:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

[jefferson_dem]

13. Pimping?

Dayum. Chill. All I did was post a poll result. Make of it what you will.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. It Was Just A Figure Of Speech

PEACE

[Marrah_G]

9. Same Polls that said Obama would crush Hillary in NH?

Just saying.........

:shrug:

[Dawgs]

29. Those polls were before she "cried".

[Marrah_G]

35. So polls can easily change.... and we have how long until Nov?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. Too Bad Everybody Can't Be All Macho And Shit Like Dawgs And Never Cry

~

[goldcanyonaz]

10. Rasmussen polls lead me to believe that they would both kick his ass, easily.

[alfredo]

14. Guys and gals, you are making a big mistake that so many have made

in the past. Never underestimate Hillary. Never bet against her. I'm not saying who would win in that match up, just saying that there are a lot of broken careers of people who tried to take her down and failed.

Another point to consider: money. Who will have the money to fight the campaign wars. Both Hillary and Obama have the money. Remember, in 2004, bush's money and the money of the swifties drove the spike into Kerry's heart. All he had from August on was the federal money he received after the nomination. He couldn't launch a media campaign to refute the lies from the swifties and still have money for the final months. Money is needed to get your case out. Hillary and Obama have the money, and can get a lot more. The Republicans are cash strapped. The only one with a big supply is Mittens, and he has loser written all over him.

[fujiyama]

50. Holy shit

that bottom pic is crreepy.

As for the first, it's just revolting. Seen it so many times.

I swear it's a political ad in itself. The Dems will definitely playing that.

[alfredo]

63. McCain is famous for his temper, all he needs is one big blowup and

he is toast.

[spooky3]

16. the CNN polls show statistical dead heat HC, BO vs. McCain

[Renew Deal]

18. Hillary wouldn't only be a loser. She'd be a disaster down ballot.

This is a mistake we need to avoid.

[Hello_Kitty]

42. This point cannot be stressed enough IMO

Hillary Clinton may be able to squeak out a razor thin victory for herself but she has no coattails that will help close races in purple states. In fact, she will likely have the opposite effect. Repukes have an amazing consistency about voting all the way down the ticket, they are well trained to do that. We'll be lucky to hold onto our narrow majorities in Congress and we can kiss statewide and local races goodbye. If you think that's no big deal, you have no idea how much power state legislatures across the country really wield. I'd dearly love to de-wingnut ours here in AZ but there's no chance of that with Hillary on the top of the ticket.

[ginchinchili]

20. I don't read much into primary polls, but if I was to do so...

this would suggest that, thanks to the ignorance of the Democrats, we'll have another 4 years of a Repubican in the WH. Thanks folks. I suppose what you'll take away from this is that in the next presidential election you'll have to find someone with even greater trappings of celebrity, and perhaps more jugglers and clowns at campaign events.

And rest assured, it will only get worse during the general election. Frankly, we deserve it.

[usregimechange]

21. Yep, she is their best hope.

[The River]

22. Neither Hillary or Obama

can win the general.

Way to go Dems. The media decides that '08
is the perfect election cycle for Dems to go way out on a limb
and run a non-traditional candidate and you fall right in line.

I mean it's so much more important to use '08 to strike a blow
for womens rights or racial equality than it is to restore the
constitution.

[ginchinchili]

25. 100% DITTO!

Short-sighted fools.

[Dawgs]

30. Who can? Your candidate will barely win his home state in the primary.

Sorry. I like John Edwards, but quit pushing that he is so much more electable than anyone else.

[Yuugal]

48. Spot on nt

[catnhatnh]

23. JEDNE....

but there's a whole bunch of pubbies.

[rocktivity]

24. Get thee behind me, poll!

UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN!!!!!



x(
rocknation

[antiimperialist]

26. Rasmussen also said Obama would beat Hillary by 7% in NH, lol n/t

[Hydra]

27. What bothers me most about this poll

is how the hell John McCain managed to pull those numbers!

He was dead and buried a few months ago- no cash and no following...wtf is up with that?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Joe Lieberman's Endorsement?

~

[Hydra]

32. bwahaha!

:rofl:

God, wouldn't that be twisted? Turncoat Dem supports warmongering/party hack to victory for the Repubs.

And he was one of our "Top Dems" not that long ago, too.

[ginchinchili]

31. Simple: Republican primary voters are coming to their senses because...

they want to win, as opposed to Democratic primary voters, who are more interested in making statements.

[rocktivity]

46. It's isn't that people like McCain most. It's that compared to the rest of the GOP candidates

they hate McCain least.

You're welcome.

:headbang:
rocknation

[papau]

33. CNN poll w/Hillary beating McCain says Ras has his head up his - - - but who trusts polls anymore

[gulliver]

34. "Thump" is now a Bushism. To repeat it is to repeat a Bush meme.

[creeksneakers2]

36. Rasmussen is usually the least favorable to Hillary n/t

[KingFlorez]

37. John McCain couldn't beat Daffy Duck

[AndyTiedye]

43. Unfortunately We Are Not Running Daffy Duck

Daffy Duck might be more electable than HRC or BHO.

[cloudythescribbler]

38. Curious how HRC supporters invoke "electability" until the evidence points the other way nt

[bowens43]

39. There is no doubt that any republican will easily beat Hillary.

A Hillary candidacy is the neo-con wet dream.

[Yael]

40. From the link: Those surveys find Mike Huckabee leading Clinton 45% to 42%

Nuff said there.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. You Would Think People Would Be More Circumspect About Writing Off Hillary After This Debacle

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_primary-194.html



But noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[RiverStone]

49. Not a surprise...

I can't fathom how anyone thinks Hillary can win in the GE when she generates so much divisiveness among Democrats.

[Hieronymus]

53. *EDWARDS CAN BEAT ANY REPUB

Edwards is the only Democrat that could beat any Republican.

[FrenchieCat]

54. Why....because he's a white male from the South?

He doesn't have the funds to go the distance cause of accepting matching funds. They would pulverize him into teeny little bits.

[Hieronymus]

55. Do you have something against white men?

[FrenchieCat]

56. No...I just don't believe that one's color makes one electable.

Do you have a list of qualities that makes John Edwards a more competitive candidate......Matching funds notwithstanding?

[K8-EEE]

59. No, because all the polls say he would beat them!

Does it all come down to race and money?

Then we're screwed.

[Hieronymus]

61. You got that right.

[Jeremy of Kansas]

57. The CNN polls showed him nearing Clinton, NOT leading. I don't trust this to be frank. nt