Clinton on Meet The Press

[Evergreen Emerald]

She was amazing. What a great president she will make.

I am appalled by the Obama campaign attempting to suggest she is racist. How low can they stoop. I should backfire if people are really listening, rather than just fighting for "their side." As it is obvious the way they are twisting the statements to make them sound racist.

[matcom]

1. links?

facts? quotes? speech exerpts? website quotes?

oh wait. you have none.

bye.

[Labors of Hercules]

118. here ya go...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22635567#22636041

[Evergreen Emerald]

2. Not yet. Weren't you watching?

The links come out about 1pm Eastern time on MSNBC's website.

[jefferson_dem]

3. She's been evasive, combative, and deceitful ...

So far in this interview.

It's on at 10 EST here in ATL.

[cali]

4. For those of us without TV;

do tell.

[jefferson_dem]

13. I encourage you to watch for the video / transcript later...

For one -- Obama's chief strategist said she was responsible for Bhutto's death, so she claims. Her campaign is different because they fire anyone who makes a comment that's "out of line."

[Evergreen Emerald]

27. Jefferson_dem....how quickly you forget.

He did attempt to link her to Bhutto's death. And, the media gave him a free pass as he spun and spun after seeing the fallout of his statement. And we see that he is still there--on the campaign trail.

Double standards.

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. I disagree--you apparently are looking through your Obama lens.

And looking negatively at Clinton in an attempt to find stuff wrong. It is a shame that we must de-humanize the other candidate in order to support our own. One has to be all evil all the time with no good attributes.

She was excellent on MTP.

[spanone]

29. she was excellent if she is your candidate.....

[Bluebear]

75. She's not my candidate & I must say she did very, very well.

[Name removed]

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[mtnsnake]

10. LOL

:thumbsup:

[jefferson_dem]

19. More spew...

from "journalist" wanna be.

[Renew Deal]

106. Not a surprising comment coming from .... Oh forget it.

[mtnsnake]

18. IOW, you know she rocked, so you come to a positive thread about her & try to hijack it with your BS

Nice try. Now run along...

[jefferson_dem]

31. Hijack?

Are you sad that your little circle-jerk was interrupted with a bit of dissension?

[Tellurian]

34. Yeah, you're becoming pretty booring with your reindeer games..

Is that what you learned in PolySci?

[mtnsnake]

42. Thanks for proving my point

sucker.

[jefferson_dem]

44. No probs.

Have a nice Sunday. :toast:

[Tellurian]

23. Such a skewed view of reality..

no wonder you have problems dealing with the Truth!

Hillary is/was not of those adjectives you attributed to her in the MTP interview!

Get a grip JD, you're going round the bend at breakneck speed!

[indimuse]

48. really? So WHERE are OBAMA's RECORDS???

<snip>
AP Interview: Obama Criticizes Clinton RECORD OBAM AND FOUL PLAY!:wtf::wtf:
Clinton Video Says Rivals Piling On
Obama complained that during Tuesday night's debate Clinton didn't provide clear answers on a number of occasions.

"After the most secretive administration in memory, an administration that consistently misled the American people, we need a president who is going to be open and

forthright," Obama said. "I think last night's debate really exposed this fault line. Senator Clinton left us wondering where she stood on every single hard question from

Iran to Social Security to drivers' licenses for undocumented workers."

Obama said he was especially concerned by Clinton's response when asked if she would release her papers from her years as first lady.

"Her big answer on whether she would release the papers from her White House years was particularly troubling because she is running on her record as first lady as

much as on her record as a senator," he said. "How can people fully judge that record if the documents from those years remain locked away?"

Tuesday's debate was the first in a month, and during that time Clinton has gained in the polls and firmly established herself as the front-runner. The debate also came

soon after Obama said he would step up his criticism of the New York senator to make clear their differences.

Clinton's campaign responded that Obama has abandoned his pledge to run a positive campaign, or as he described it, the politics of hope.

"With each attack, Senator Obama undermines the central premise of his candidacy. The politics of hope that once characterized his remarks has now been replaced

by the kinds of jabs one typically sees from candidates desperate to gain traction in the polls," said Mark Daley, a Clinton spokesman.

The Clinton campaign also posted a Web video arguing that her rivals had been piling on.

"The politics of hope does not mean hoping that your opponents aren't going to point out the differences between you and them," Obama said.

He pledged to continue to draw clear differences between himself and Clinton.

"And frankly, Senator Clinton did it for us yesterday with some of her answers," he said.

Obama said he has based his career on transparency with voters. While in the Illinois Legislature, he said he pushed for ethics reform. In Washington, he said he has

released his congressional earmark requests and worked to ensure that lobbyists disclose bundling practices used in fundraising.

He boasted that he has "put forward probably the toughest set of ethics rules for how an Obama administration would operate compared to any other candidate."

)()()()()()()()()()()


WHERE is Obamas Records during his time in Senate?:wtf:
While in State government in Illinois, Barack was known as a "nice guy," but has little to show for his years in state government. Not particularly known by the public at large as a vocal leader and was rarely out in front of any issue. In fact, few Illinoisans even knew his name at all until he ran for the Senate seat against Alan Keyes. He was an unknown, a non-entity as far as state politics was concerned.

:think: Yet, the Obama camp has made no effort to assist investigators to look into his state records. In fact, Senator Obama has blithely claimed that his records have been thrown out. :wow: Chicago columnist Lynn Sweet reports that Obama, who has called for "transparency in government" from his rivals, is not much interested in revealing his own documents.


"I was in the state Senate for eight years," Obama said. "I had one staff person, that was what was allocated. I don't have archivists in the state Senate.:wow:(((EXPERIECE???)) I don't have
the Barack Obama State Senate Library available to me, so we had a bunch of file cabinets. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years.:wtf: Now, if there are
particular documents that you are interested in, then you should let us know...As I said, I didn't have the resources to ensure that all this stuff was archived in some way...it could have been thrown out.":wow: Is this how you run a responsible office of GOV????????????????

Hillary and Edwards have BOTH turned theirs over...even Hillary's records as First Lady have been scrutinized, WHERE are the records for Senator Obama? Lost?


ALL the RECORDS are MISSING the ENTIRE time he was Senator!:grr: NOT just RECENT ones, this came up because Barrack asked for everyone else's records which have been produced look at MSNBC.com for the full reports! :spank::spank:


They have conveniently vanished into thin air :think: & sadly, when you ask intelligent questions like this which NEED to be asked & answered...... you are unjustly attacked and accused, of being an Obama basher BECAUSE I told the Truth :grr:
:nuke:
or are ambushed with a responses like " who cares ? " Do the OBama supporter REALLY care about our country oR JUST Obama WINNING???:grr:
:nuke:

[jefferson_dem]

53. Wha?

:shrug:

[Renew Deal]

104. I think you mean, so far in her life.

She's got a track record.

[babylonsister]

7. You were appalled?

:rofl:

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. I do not understand your post.

[mtnsnake]

9. Hillary hit it out of the park again. The lady is amazing, inspiring, & calming

,,,and she's realistic in a manner that invokes confidence in us.

[matcom]

11. am watching now

what exactly did she say that was "amazing, inspiring & calming"?

I want to make sure I listen for the quote.

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. Listen to the whole damn thing

what the hell Matcom? Chill out. Jeez. Stop being so cantankerous this morning.

[matcom]

17. i'm trying to gear up for the exact words

can't you help me out?

[mtnsnake]

25. It's everything she said & how she said it. There is no single quote or two.

[Evergreen Emerald]

12. I know! She was great.

I am so glad that Russert did not attack her. He had tough questions--did not talk about the issues much, unfortunately, but gave her a chance to talk about this all-out-racist--attack by the obama campaign to win black votes in SC.

She did wonderfully.

[matcom]

14. can you PLEASE post a link to the racist attack?

it might sway my vote if I have a link

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. It is not just one link. If you watch MTP

you will see that the Obama campaign has a conserted effort to paint the Clintons as rasict. They are doing this for the purpose of gaining the SC black vote that is a big % of SC.

They are taking the words of the Clintons (both of them) and twisting them, distorting them, and then shouting racism from the rootops.

[matcom]

24. link?

certainly there is evidence someplace?

[MannyGoldstein]

28. As Usual, Not A Shred Of Evidence?

Please, grace us with one of the many instances that you claim.

Meanwhile, I'm writing in Cheney for president. He's ready from day one, and anyone else would be too much of a gamble in this post-9/11 world.

[Evergreen Emerald]

33. are you guys playing dumb?

Clyburn's attack on Bill Donna Brazil's attack on the Clintons
The attack on Hillary after they twisted her statement about MLK.
The news reports across the US accusing Clintons of being racist.


Where the hell have you been?

[MannyGoldstein]

Point To One Attack By The Obama Camp Claiming The Clintons Are Racist

Show us what an ignorant #$*% I am.

[MannyGoldstein]

43. (Cue sound of crickets chirping)

So typical.

[Evergreen Emerald]

49. seriously? where the hell have you been for the past two days?

There is a firestorm! If you are not up on the day's topics, read something before coming here.

[mtnsnake]

38. They are not playing

Either they're as dumb as they sound or they're only here on the DU in the most feeble of efforts at making sure a Democratic candidate isn't elected President. Otherwise, why would they distort the situation as much as they do?

[matcom]

39. i am dumb

i need links where Obama or his campaign did the things you claim.

again, THE COULD VERY WELL SWAY MY VOTE!

this is HUGH!

[Tellurian]

51. Here is a statement...try to keep up..

Clinton or Obama: Who's Truly Playing The Race Card?

by josephpatrick

Sat Jan 12, 2008 at 06:14:37 PM PST

***cross posted at http://www.politidose.com/

I am sick and tired of the media narrative, and now the Obama campaign's narrative, that Hillary and Bill Clinton, as well as their supporters, are racist. This is an insane notion to throw out to the American people, not to mention a complete and udder lie. So when I see commentators and pundits, both on television and in written articles, talk about the Clintons' racism and prejudice, it truly gets my blood boiling. Now, as Sam Stein of the Huffington Post reports,

"Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign has prepared a detailed memo listing various instances in which it perceived Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign to have deliberately played the race card in the Democratic primary. The document provides an indication that, in private, the Obama campaign is seeking to capitalize on the view - and push the narrative - that the Clintons are using race-related issues for political leverage. "

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/12/211127/932/409/435894

[matcom]

54. can you link directly to the 'document'?

thanks

[Tellurian]

58. Desperation in the Obama Camp using the Race Card to win SC...

Obama Spokesperson Says There's A "Pattern" Behind Bill And Hillary's Race Comments

By Greg Sargent - January 11, 2008, 5:54PM

This is pretty interesting. Check out what an Obama spokesperson said to The Politico about the backlash that's brewing in the black community to Hillary's recent Martin Luther King assertion and Bill's "fairy-tale" comment:

“A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology.

“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments — and not just these latest comments but really a pattern, or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” she said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation or is there something bigger behind all of this?”


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/obama_spokesperson_asks_is_there_something_bigger_behind_bill_and_hillarys_race_comments.php

[matcom]

65. I have heard people OUTSIDE the Obama camp make those statements

:shrug:

[Tellurian]

74. My link has an Obama spokesman..Google.you'll see BO's Camp are playing the Race card to win SC..

this will be the final linchpin for Obama..He's finished!

Obama should try using issues and his record of producing results to Win the nomination.

[indimuse]

79. And why have we STILL not heard from Obama re:JJJ?

This I consider DIRTY and LOW!

[oasis]

108. "my dog ate my t.v."

:-(

[mtnsnake]

35. "Meanwhile, I'm writing in Cheney for president"

That wouldn't surpise me in the least about you and half the other people who have nothing better to do than make feeble attempts to ruin the chances of one of the best Democratic candidates in our Party.

Why are you here?

[MannyGoldstein]

37. Dick Cheney: Ready From Day One

Anyone else is a roll of the dice.

[Evergreen Emerald]

40. You think Cheney is ready? No wonder we disagree on everything

You have a different dictionary than I do.

[mtnsnake]

41. Maybe you & Cheney can go & kill some defenseless birds to prove your manhoods together (snicker)

[MannyGoldstein]

46. Battling Defenseless Clinton Supporters Is Way More Fun

And even more lopsided.

[mtnsnake]

59. Battling? lmao is that what you call this? On second thought, Manny, stay out of the woods

You're better off here, even if it's in a losing cause for ya. At least you'll stay dry and you won't get lost (snicker)

[babylonsister]

45. Are we watching the same show?

:shrug:

[1corona4u]

50. Careful....

or I'll start posting the shit from Obama's appearance on MTP....it wasn't very impressive....

[Maribelle]

16. Hillary is on right now here.

this is not about gender, not about race

this is about who is ready from day one

[Buzz Clik]

21. She accused Axelrod of saying that she played a role in the assassination of Bhutto.

At that moment, I changed my avatar to its current image.

I will not support Hillary in her campaign to win the nomination. Period. I value honesty over ambition.

[Evergreen Emerald]

30. he did...where have you been?

[Zynx]

36. I tried to interpret Axelrod's statement in a different way and never could.

He blatantly used that event to try to, unskillfully, smear Hillary.

[Buzz Clik]

77. You never could? Gee, I wonder why.

Have you heard Obama's explanation of the statement? If not, find it on YouTube and listen. If you still believe that they're accusing her of being part of the plot, well... there's no hope.

But, your interpretation aside, it's what Hillary said that matters. She repeated this unadulterated bullshit. I'm done with her.

[Zynx]

81. That's not what she said.

Axelrod never accused her of being part of the plot, but said that her vote on Iraq was partly to blame for the violence in Pakistan.

[Evergreen Emerald]

100. more spin and backtracking from Obama--and showed his inexperience.

Yes. I heard his attempt to re-write history. He should have just apologized. His explanation showed his lack of historical knowledge with regard to Pakistan. Pakistan has been in turmoil for generations. Before Iraq and after.

Clinton's iraq vote had nothing to do with Pakistan's turmoil. To suggest it does is disingenuous and shows an ignorance of historical history.

[Buzz Clik]

47. I'm sorry, but you must mistake me for an illiterate moron. He DID NOT!

I saw all the bullshit here at DU. Do you think that a solid week of pro-Clinton hysteria would actually change what was said? It doesn't.

If you believe that Axelrod accused Hillary Clinton of play a role in the Bhutto assassination, then you are a rube.

[Evergreen Emerald]

52. re-read the quote, or watch the video, and then YOU tell us

what the interpretation should be. He made a direct link, purposefully. He saw the public outrage and then attempted to spin it. The media, of course hating anything Clinton, allowed him to get away with it.

[Buzz Clik]

80. Again, you mistake me for an idiot.

I would never make these kinds of statements or make these kinds of judgments without complete justification.

I'm done with Hillary.

Gobama!

[Zynx]

85. And you do it on incredibly shaky logic.

[Zynx]

83. You are interpreting her statement in a very shallow way.

Axelrod laid blame on Hillary for it by saying her vote for the IWR was responsible for the violence in Pakistan. He never said that she had a role in the assassination or that she was directly responsible and Hillary never claimed it.

[Maribelle]

60. But Hillary really didn't have to accuse Axelrod of anything. Most thinking people knew.

Obama should have fired Axelrod over this and he didn't.

This example you give is the classic example of Obama having a forked tongue. Obama simply played the game of letting Axelrod's hateful pomp fester all the while Obama claims he rejects Washington games.

Today, I see that Obama's games are even dirtier, nastier, and containing more hate than those "Washington games" he pretends to reject.

[Evergreen Emerald]

73. Exactly. He is accusing Clinton of racism, and touting "hope"

[MannyGoldstein]

22. Gahndi & Mother Teresa Have Nothing On Hillary

She is truly the chosen one.

[Tellurian]

32. You mean Oprah...

she sure did alot of good for "the one"!

[quickesst]

26. "How low can they stoop."

Apparently, there are no limits. Thanks.
quickesst

[AngryAmish]

55. Her performance could best be described as Clintonian

you knw what that means

[Evergreen Emerald]

78. honestly, I don't know what you mean. She was straight forward

and open and answered every question intelligently, and with conviction. She obviously has a complete understanding of the complex issues that face our nation. And she is aware of the ugly politics that abound in this election.

[AngryAmish]

87. I'm just playing with ya

Since her last name is Clinton anything she does is, by self-referential definition, Clintonian. For example her gardening could be described as Clintonian.

[Cameron27]

56. She nailed Timmy to the wall,

and I loved it!

[Maribelle]

62. She truly did, even when he endlessly tried to interrupt her.

His gotchas backfired as well.

[Vinca]

57. Yep, Hillary sealed the deal for me on MTP.

If she's the candidate, I will not vote. She's carping about Bill's words being taken out of context, but the whole "Obama supports George Bush" meme is out of context. I cannot stand her. She's Republican lite at best.

[jefferson_dem]

61. Honestly...

I can't imagine how anyone but her already loyal supporters could look at this performance as anything positive.

She's virtually insufferable.

[Tellurian]

66. Truth, Garlic and crucifixes affect many Obama supporters..

[bluedog]

88. so you think she and edwards should both drop

out of the race and all will Crown your King?...........you want to hear no other voices ....because you don't believe anything anyone says but Obama?..............

[jefferson_dem]

94. Of course not.

I'm only referring to Hillary's appearance on MTP this morning. That's all.

[Tellurian]

63. Yup, thanks for your usual enlightenment.. Borat

[Evergreen Emerald]

64. So, Vinca; is it ok with you for Obama to twist Clinton's words

and then to suggest that they are racist, as a political ploy to gain votes? You and I both know that both of those statements were distorted and twisted.

The timing of course coincides with the SC primary--where there are huge numbers of black voters.

It is reprehensible that Obama is suggesting they are racist--just to gain votes. Just when I thought it could get no lower.

And for you to suggest that you will not vote for her, because SHE has taken things out of context--is amazing.

[Vinca]

82. The reason I'm not voting for her has nothing to do with her taking things

out of context. It has to do with disliking her immensely. There is nothing genuine about this woman - either she's trying to prove she's got the biggest balls on the planet or she's sniffling crocodile tears. Either the crowd behind her is reliable geezers or - next day - the "change" crowd of young voters. At the start of the campaign she was going to leave some troops in Iraq. That didn't play well, so now we're getting everyone out. I wish health care would become the big issue, maybe she'd change her tune to the Kucinich plan. She will say whatever it takes to win. Winning is everything. Power is everything. Anyone who believes her agenda includes anyone but the Clintons is in for a shock.

[Evergreen Emerald]

110. I fear that you have succumbed to the right wing attacks we have

been seeing on the media for 12 years. She is as genuine as every other politician out there--for some reason she is held to a higher standard.

The issue with troops in Iraq: everyone is leaving some in--everyone including Obama and Edwards to assure a smooth exit and to quell El Queda should they attempt to re-enter. EVERYONE.

Every candidate wants to win. Winning is everything? I don't know exactly what you mean. Every candidate there wants to win.

[mtnsnake]

70. Why do repukes always say "She's Republican lite at best"?

Would you mind telling us why? I mean, isn't that old worn-out coverup getting old by now? It just doesn't fool anyone anymore.

[Vinca]

84. Well, isn't that special? If you don't agree with the Hillarybots

your're a Republican? Let's all get in lockstep, shall we?:grr:

[Tellurian]

93. same boring rhetoric... why bother responding

when you have nothing new to say!

[Vinca]

98. I suppose it is a waste of time, considering the brainwashed nature

of some of you folks. Any of you guys getting a paycheck?

[PDittie]

67. So amazing that

I donated again to Edwards.

[Evergreen Emerald]

68. what was your problem with it?

I did not get much information about why it caused you to give more to Edwards?

What issues caused you concern?

[PDittie]

92. Despite her conscription of the change rhetoric

Mrs. Clinton has not shown herself to be committed to a progressive agenda. Clinton, in my now-updated opinion, is beatable in a general election if McCain is the GOP nominee. And even if she wins, it will be a narrower victory than any other Democratic nominee could achieve, and possibly without even a slim majority in the Senate or House (or both). And we would be back to all the things that devastated the Democratic party in the 90's: triangulation and center-right policies masquerading as liberal positions. The return of the vast right-wing conspiracy machine with a vengeance. Endless media stories about Clintonian "scandals" regardless of their merit. The snarling mug of James Carville on television every night. The DLC and its own K Street strategy, triumphant.

And obviously we will see little if any gain for progressive positions. Universal health care? Dead on arrival. She doesn't make that mistake twice. Maybe a plan that allows health insurance companies and Big Pharma to suck up even more money than they do now. Iraq? A delayed or "deferred" withdrawal, leaving thousands of American soldiers stuck in a quagmire of neoconservative and neoliberal warhawk fantasies. A continued push by AIPAC and conservative Israeli politicians to involve America in a war against Iran. The continued downgrading of environmental issues, especially lacking a response to global warming that promises any hope of real reductions in greenhouse gas emissions.

Those differences are worth a lot more than the $25 I was able to give, to Edwards, believe me.

*edit for "conscription" in subject line

[Evergreen Emerald]

112. Clinton has been in the media for decades.

Those polls showing Clinton behind a Republican are notorious for vacillating once the nominee is chosen. I disagree that she is less able to win the general than Obama. Obama is not going to take the Republican vote. No experience.

Universal health care: She was vilified by media and congress in the 1990's. They were not going to let her or Bill get anything passed. Health care will pass under her watch--if we have the dems in the senate to do it. In fact--no president will get it passed alone.

I do not trust Edwards: I question his complete reversal on everything--actions speak louder than words.

[PDittie]

120. I simply responded to your request.

Your (unnecessary) rebuttal is no more going to shake my support of Edwards than mine will yours of Clinton.

I simply answered your question.

[NoBorders]

69. She's not racist; Obama's not sexist.

this is all political spin bullshit.

Enough of this already.

[ecstatic]

71. I'm just tuning in. She looks and sounds pretty good

And I like how she keeps reminding people that we need a president who'll be ready from Day 1. I honestly believe that is her strength.

[Rock_Garden]

72. She surpassed even my high expectations.

[City Lights]

76. "I should backfire if people are really listening"

You did! :applause:

[ccharles000]

86. She was

excellent and i proudly vote for this amazing lady.:patriot:

[Colobo]

89. Today's interviewed just ratified

that Obama is a much better candidate than she is.

[Evergreen Emerald]

90. only if you have no method of comprehension.

[Tellurian]

95. He doesn't..He voted for Bush twice!

[SaveOurDemocracy]

101. !!!!?

... for real? :yoiks:

[PDittie]

96. Now, now. That sort of ad hom

isn't really called for, is it?

[HughMoran]

91. I'd give her an A-

The only issue I see is eye-contact - she needs to keep her eyes focused a little higher when she is thinking. I can relate to not being able to look into another's eyes when I am thinking. On content, I'd say that considering that everyone watching here (several people) is shocked at the barrage of assaults by Tim Russert, she did an excellent job of dispelling the robo-rhetoric. A-

[Imagevision]

97. This is Hillary after she... ' found her voice' what a load of shit!

[Tellurian]

99. Is that the best you can do after gargling those words?

[zulchzulu]

102. Here's a List of the Litany of Lies from Hillary on MTP

1. Hillary said that Obama has called himself like RFK or MLK. It's people who have compared him to those leaders, not himself.

2. She said no one wants to inject gender into the race. Her campaign made it very clear it was about gender after her debate performance in Philadelphia. The "men are piling on"? Playing Woman As Victim was an obvious component of her campaign.

3. Hillary said Obama's Iraq speech in 2002 was off his web site. It was ON his web site. The text of the speech is also on his web site. She continued to distort Obama's statements on the Iraq War. Obama has set forth that he will not vote for more funding without timelines.

4. She said when someone does something wrong, they are gone from her campaign. What about Penn?

5. Hillary thinks that Obama's rhetoric is all he has. She has implied that Obama has never passed any legislation. He HAS passed legislation and has done much more than she has ever done.

6. She wants the voters to have accurate records of the issues of the candidates, yet continues to lie about Obama's actual legislation that he authored, co-sponsored or passed. Her accomplishments are thin as Senator. Her claim that the lobbyists getting lunch sitting up or down for campaign reform is only one component of many other reforms, so it's a cheap shot.

7. Hillary was combative and deceptive about her vote on the Iraq War Resolution. Her speech at that time proved that she was for attacking Saddam. She had to go ahead and attack Obama even though he clearly knew that the Iraq War was a "dumb war" and had said his speech at the same time she voted for Bush's invasion. Additionally, her vote against the Levin Amendment to use more diplomacy was defended by trying to deflect that she knows Levin and that she wants to stop discussing "what happened in 2002". Oddly, that is her primary attack on Obama as well as the lies made by her husband. She doesn't want to talk about 2002, yet continued to talk about Obama's speech.

Additionally, she says she would not have voted for the war had she had known that he would have attacked Iraq. What? There will millions in the streets protesting the impending war knowing that Bush was all about going into Iraq. Is she that stupid or a sucker?

Her "explanation" about not reading the NIE was answered by saying she looked at all the information. Excuse me? The NIE pointed to how the intelligence was bogus and would be the first document you would read to get an informed opinion on the intelligence. She looked at all the information except the intelligence information she should have looked at?

8. Her "experience" including her years as a First Lady is as she said, a false distinction. She again lies about Obama not saying how he will pay for the changes she wants as well as says she has shown how she will pay for her healthcare plan, even though she has never told anyone how the individual mandates for healthcare insurance will be enforced.

9. Her husband's pardon of Mark Rich led to Rich's wife giving nearly a million dollars to her campaign. She denied she knew anything about that decision. Look for more information on how she did indeed know about the pardon.

10. Hillary did return with her cackle with the mention of Monica Lewinsky. She bypassed the question by saying she never thinks about that.

More to come, but these are enough to prove she plays dirty and is not the right choice to be the nominee.

[Maribelle]

115. The NIE pointed to how the intelligence was bogus ? Can you explain this?

Every single article I have ever read regarding the 96-page NIE and the summary NIE in October 2002 was that it clearly withheld information that was not in line with the Bush/Cheney lies.

[Evergreen Emerald]

117. Yes. We saw your BS already.

1. You are wrong, Obama has been comparing himself to them in his stump speeches.
2. The men were piling on. I do not see that as using gender.
3. He did take his speech off the website. If it is on now, it is in response to Clinton's statements.
4. She has gotten rid of those who said things she disagreed with. What did Penn say?
5. She stated that Obama is all talk no action. When asked what action he HAS taken he talked about the ethics reform that allows people to take from Lobbyists when standing. His record on not submitting legislation against the war / or on any issues if fair game.
6. Not a lie....the truth.
7. You are distorting the record and her statements on IWR. She did not lie.
8. What a load of bull. You continue to spew this despite the evidence to the contrary.
9. Rich: I don't know anything about that, and cannot comment.

10> What did you expect her to say about her husband's infidelity? What a horrific question.

And your use of "cackle" shows a sexism that is all too prevalent on DU.

Your post is a whole lot of nothing.

[Kolesar]

119. 7.A. Hillary's constituents told her that the case for war and the IWR was a sham

She ignored them. She had them ejected from her office when they came to "petition" their representative.

[soundguy]

103. Fantastic!

Both the Mrs. and I say she hit the ball out of the park. And even when Timmy tried to bait her she didn't fall for his tactics. She owned him. She sounded confident, reassuring, and mature. I especially liked how she explained her "vote for war." Of course I am sure the haters turned off their brain when she was explaining it and substituted their own dim view of reality.

[mtnsnake]

107. You just nailed it, soundguy

Of course I am sure the haters turned off their brain when she was explaining it and substituted their own dim view of reality

Thank you. :thumbsup:

[oasis]

109. Hillary was the smartest person in the room. She's ready.(eom)

[OzarkDem]

105. She did very well

I'm still amazed at all the BS that fellow Dems are making up about her. Its incredibly obvious that she's far more qualified for the job than Obama.

[Cameron27]

111. The BS is

the sound of little feet stamping the ground in a tantrum. Ignore it.

[DURHAM D]

113. What was not in the interview is the most telling.

WHERE WAS THE JESS JACKSON TAPE? You know Timmy has a copy of JJJr's vile sexist statement because he made it on MSNBC.

What does this say - THAT THE CORPORATE MEDIA BOYS ARE CONTINUING TO PROTECT AND SHIELD OBAMA. They still have him firmly behind their flying wedge.

The question is - when will they drop it. My guess - about May 15th.

And people thought Reagan was a media creation... That was amateur hour compared to this year.

[Evergreen Emerald]

114. Really good point.

[Cameron27]

116. Really good point