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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:50 AM
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The truth that Clinton supporters, Edwards supporters...
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 12:52 AM by Katzenkavalier
and Obama supporters agree on is that in November, the Democratic victory will be huge, because Hillary, Obama and Edwards are so superior to every single Republican candidate that it's going to be a ridiculous mismatch with anyone of our three badass-candidates whooping any of them like they stole something.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:55 AM
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1. AGREE! The Repubs won't know what hit 'em then! nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:57 AM
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2. Yeah. It's true and you know it.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:59 AM
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3. You "hope." Don't count on that.
We have to have a candidate that Americans will trust with their lives.

The only candidate of our three that I would really trust with my children's and husband's and my life is Edwards. He is strong without being callous and calculating.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:00 AM
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4. Man, all of them would do fine against the Repugs.
The three of them are superior in every way, shape or form.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:52 AM
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9. Dreamer. Obama is going to suddenly discover that
he is part of the "elite," meaning he talks in vague intellectual concepts way over the heads of ordinary Americans. Americans understand Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran much better than they understand Obama's language. That is the problem. How do you think it is possible that Bush came close enough to being elected that the Diebold demons could push him over without a trace? Because Americans vote for the candidate they understand, the one that talks in pictures, not in ideas, the one that talks like they do, not like the professor or the even the high school teacher who flunked them in English composition did.


Edwards knows how to talk to ordinary people. He can win. Hillary and Obama will not have as easy a time as Edwards, if they win at all.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:10 AM
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13. People like you make
me additionally glad that Edwards will lose, lose, lose.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:09 AM
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12. good for you.
he's the last candidate I'd trust with my life. His record shows that he couldn't be trusted with the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Of all the dems in the Senate, he was the most eager to bomb, bomb, bomb.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:56 PM
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21. As An Edwards Supporter... What I SEE From So Many Of OUR So-Called
Democratic Representative & Senators, is that dis-affected Democrats like me may NOT WANT a Democratic Congress!

So what the HELL good is it going to do IF Congress doesn't DO IT'S WORK!!! They sure have been a disappointment as of now!!!

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:00 AM
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5. I agree, fully. And I'm proud of the field we've had this year.
May the best candidate win....

Go Edwards, go!!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:05 AM
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6. except if they nominate Thompson
then the Soviet Union will take over America
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:10 AM
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7. I'm just excited to have field of such smart, savvy leaders.
I don't agree with some of them a lot of the time, but I still believe that the country would be in better hands under any of the candidate's leadership than under any republican.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:15 AM
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8. Truer words were never spoke
:hi:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:22 AM
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10. Of Course They Are Superior to any of the Repiglicans…
…just as Gore and Kerry were obviously superior to Bush**.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:41 AM
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11. "I'm not young enough to know everything" Oscar Wilde
Thanks for the nice sentiments, but if you seriously think that we can't lose, you need to read some history. As the economy worsens, it can easily be painted as the fault of the Democrats, who, after all, are controlling both houses of Congress. The masters of distortion are easily up to this task, and people are ripe for the scaring in times of fear.

Electability is a huge issue, and we should be aware of it. Huzzahs of triumphalism are all heady and joyous to behold, but this is far from sewn up.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:15 AM
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16. exactly! and here's to the great wit of his era-Wilde
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:36 AM
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14. keep telling yourself that
throughout the Huckabee administration, or McCain administration, or whatever.

There are plenty of short-attention-span American Idol fans who can be told the new "facts of life" the day before the election. Just like learning a new letter on Sesame Street, they'll stumble to the polls reciting that letter, come home and say "mommy, I voted the right way, just like Big Bird said"
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:03 AM
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15. PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT! they will win if and only if the Voters turn out.
That line of crap about we are the best, everybody in America hates the Repugs yada yada ad nauseum is exactly why the Repugs have neaten the Dems over and over and over. Get your arrogant, self absorbed head from out of your ass or install a plexi-glass belly button. The work effort must be sustained at the highest possible level from now to the very minute the polls open to assure that voters actually turn up to vote. The same intense effort is going to have to be put forth by the nominee to avoid another Kerry fade-away. EFFORT = VOTES Over confidence + arrogance = LOSE
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:23 PM
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17. This post
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 12:25 PM by frogcycle
is a not-so-well-masked effort to dispel concerns over Obama's electability by complimenting all three. Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit.

Head-in-the-sand propaganda.

And that is not an anti-Obama comment. But let's deal with the facts. If he's the best candidate, then get him elected, but don't try to wish away concerns with platitudes.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:29 PM
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18. lol! Yes, because all the world is watching
and taking cues from anonymous posters on an internet forum!

Geez, the OP tries to make a positive post about ALL our candidates and gets grief for it. What next? All Democrats suck?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:43 PM
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19. The ones with their heads in the sand
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 12:52 PM by frogcycle
don't suck, but will be sorry when THEY get the badass whooping.

Hell, its not a positive post when it says its in the bag so relax! I don't want another gwb administration.

I am NOT in to slamming candidates for "negatives" they can't help.
color, gender, speaking ability, etc. are things that are just there, and a constructive effort to overcome them, make them not be significant negatives is what is needed. Just trying to dismiss them and move on is dumb. I do get that whatever the negatives the eventual candidate has, we should be ready to deal with and assure a victory, and believe it is possible with any of the three. So bickering now over whose negatives are more serious is pointless, and the issue should not be paramount in choosing the best candidate. That was probably the point of the OP, but sure as hell came across as a salesperson "overcoming objections" to see "what will it take to put you in this car?"

We need to stop trying to out-sell each other and figure out whether any of these people really have something concrete going for them. So far I am unconvinced. I am currently leaning toward the one I consider the least bad after the actually qualified ones were eliminated. But telling me "there there, not to worry" is NOT going to be helpful. It just smacks of smary salesmanship.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:45 PM
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20. If counted! (Psst: it wasn't small in 2000 or 2004 either - pass it on!)
But I agree - the turnout will surpass 2004 by far - no matter who our candidate is.
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