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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:57 PM Original message |
Skeptical of some racist accusations @ Clintons, THIS quote DOES have racist tones. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. What IS a non-"racist" way to describe Obama? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I would. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Self edit: This is the only response necessary |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
86. "There is not a Black America or a WHite |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Sorry, but that statement is offensive...... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Hi marmar, would you care to join us at the following thread? |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Hip |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. "Because I'd like to know if anyone would consider this man a candidate if he were NOT black." |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Really. Think about what this poster said, rather than suggest she die. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Deleted message |
gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. Unbelievable |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Yeah, I can't see how "liberals only support Obama because he's black" sounds like |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. Deleted message |
Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
63. A woman with no experience IS running for president right now |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
112. Hahaha! |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
64. "He is in this race with his lack of experience, because he is a black male." |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
76. there are none so blind as those who refuse to open their eyes. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
110. fail. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
28. For the first time ever |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
39. A non-racist description: Democratic candidate for president. Senator. Constitutional law scholar. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. what a completely ugly, offensive remark. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
45. My Answer: Yes |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
115. Ummm... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. Just the Clinton campaign? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Hi Infinite Hope, could I ask you to have a look at Frenchie's thread? |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Indeed. Very interesting and point well taken. Thanks. n/t |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. one caution - anonymous advisor |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Indeed. The media and *other* candidates benefit from stirring up... |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. Obama will hit a buzzsaw when he hits big suburban states |
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BluegrassDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. I'm black and I'm offended |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. "Hip" was in use long before "hip-hop" |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
33. heh! Don't you know |
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bluedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. it use to mean...way cool...........into it..........n/t |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
51. I'm telling you....... |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Are you kidding? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. so if you are a you are a rich white kid |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
48. I don't see the racism. Educate me please. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
103. when i grew up i never thought of my friend as a token black guy |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
29. My big, older brother |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Deleted message |
gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
72. Sigh, |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
97. You calling me Right Wing? Hillary is Right wing! I'm more of a socialist |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
116. The comment is a knock at some whites' |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
95. your black?? HA! |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
99. Also, before rock music, "rock" was not a word. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. oh dear you forgot to mention the NAME of that clinton advisor. oh well nt |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. These people seem to be completely tone deaf |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. Clinton camp has essentially said over the past several weeks: |
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Jai4WKC08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
49. Except that no one officially in the Clinton camp has said anything of the sort |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
55. Wow, that's really awful. |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
82. Some people can be real idiots... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
16. another demeaning statement about |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. does that adviser have a name? |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. Did any of you privates in the Kiddy Army notice the link was to a Brit rag? |
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knowledgeispwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. What does it being a British magazine have to do with anything? |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. well for one thing any Brit will tell you we don't speak English, nor do they write |
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knowledgeispwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. The writer wasn't paraphrasing, though |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I agree my wording wasn't the best either. Yes, the writer was quoting... |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
22. STOP THE DESTRUCTION |
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Zueda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Surely if there are sexists here then there must be racist...Right? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
24. oh for petey sakes. Enough! |
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winga222 (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
27. Wow, did Hillary really say that? Or Bill? |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
32. You can scream racist--but scraming racist too offten is just |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Let's make it clear, Obama never screamed racist about any of this... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Thank you |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Same with crying Sexism |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
34. Problem is, in a general election Americans won't appreciate... |
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Didereaux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. now that is one very astute observation, thank you well said. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
38. delete. nt |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
43. That's An Attack on White People |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Yup. But an honest read of those words doesn't help Obama. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Yeah, Well |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
59. The statement was Racist. Period. |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. "Watch for the Return of Jim Crow" |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. It is a little hyperbolic,yes. But basically true |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. What ever......... |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It's only sick if you don't know your history |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Oh by the way just because Culinary Worker Union Leaders |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Whatever |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. People like you are the reason DU is going the the shit hole. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Hillary is the Status Quo candidate |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. If she wins the nom, I just won't vote, period." |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Which brings up the point: |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Who say's that I hate Democrats???? |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. So Party above Country is your position |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. You make me laugh..... |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. I am for a loyal opposition |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Like I said........ |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:49 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. If we don't have any standards for what a Democrat is |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. So now it is wrong to...... |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Let me put it to you this way, |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. WoW!!!! |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Deal, just don't try to pin it on me if she loses. |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. People like you just don't get it...... |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Way to try to infantilize me, |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-15-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Good try but no cigar. |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 04:08 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Like I said. It's a deal, but don't YOU whine about it EITHER |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. And if you had read my post's... |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I hate her associating with fascists and economic royalists |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Like I said it is your right |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Glad to hear it. |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I we want a Democrat to win, then don't nominate Hillary |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
102. Will I'm an Ex-Texan. |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
77. You have got |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
47. It's the 90s MSM all over again |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
52. tell me the name of the person who said it. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
54. Who said it and when? The article I saw named a vague annonymous source |
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TheJizzaking (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
60. "Uppity" |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. nevermind |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I can't believe |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
96. your right! |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. Why indeed. It's much easier dismissing controversy outright |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
62. Racist Tones: Race Card. Next! |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
73. Just another black man who cant provide. n/t |
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vee (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
74. I like imaginary "Hippy Chick" friends better. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
78. Keith Olbermann read The Guardian's quote on his show last night |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Worked for George Wallace and Lester Maddox too! |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
108. What quote? |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
105. Ugly and offensive |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
113. This has already been posted. |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
114. BTW "@" means "at" not "by" |
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