Today Thom Hartmann mentioned that we should refrain from talking about

[rhett o rick]

winning and losing in regard to the primaries and caucuses. Instead talk about the number of delegates committed to each candidate.

Does anyone have the current count of delegates each candidate has at this point?

Forgive me Thom if I misrepresented you.

[CK_John]

1. Here is a link to the delegate scorecard.

<http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D>.

[rhett o rick]

3. Thank you so much. nm

[JDPriestly]

2. Edwards, 18, Hillary 24, Obama 25 per Hartman yesterday

The CNN scorecard shows Hillary 183, Obama 78 and Edwards 52 with Richardson at 19 and Kucinich at 1

Together, thus far, Obama and Edwards have 130, and with Richardson's 19, they have 149 to Hillary's 183. I think that includes superdelegates, and I don't know how strictly bound they are to vote for the candidate they are listed for.

[CK_John]

6. You go into the convention with the delegates you got not the ones you want. n/t

[rhett o rick]

7. Can some explain where Hartmann got the 18-24-25 numbers when CNN is

reporting 183-78-52 kinda numbers? What is the disconnect? Or is it me?

[sandyd921]

8. They're including super delegates

They're party functionaries and elected officials and they get to vote.

[rhett o rick]

9. So while 35% of the grass roots support Clinton she gets 58% of the delegates

due to super-delegates? What a system. And people wonder why some Democrats get disenfranchised.

Did i get that right?

[sandyd921]

10. Depending on who they are committing their votes to

However I believe they are allowed to change who they support on subsequent votes. Not entirely sure about this and don't have time to check it right now, but I recall this.

[rhett o rick]

11. Point is that currently, accord to CNN, Clinton has 58% of delegates.

if super-delegates all support Clinton, no brokered convention. Or am I wrong on this?

[rodeodance]

4. Certainly--If constantly hear that Edwards is dead if not make it SC---then

people have a tendency to give up on him

[RC]

5. Don't think about winning or losing.

It might remind people of the voting machines and how they can't seem to count properly.