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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:11 PM
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The Clintons are on the offense on the race bullshit. They have nothing to hide and they know it.
People accusing the Clintons of racism are playing a dangerous and amateur game politically. The vast majority of voters including a hell of a lot of black voters will be turned off by the race baiting being promoted by the MSM (and now it looks like people inside the Obama campaign). There's a simple reason why. It's bullshit and smells like it.

The Clintons are on the offense today going into black sponsored media because they have nothing to hide and know it.

Race baiting is a bad move by some amateurs surrounding Obama. Clinton ain't a racist (and as far as I know Obama isn't sexist), so any of those accusations just stink up the joint. So people who are promoting the "racist" angle are riling up the MSM to attack Clinton again just like they did in NH only this time it won't only be female voters that revolt but a vast majority who will call BULLSHIT.

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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:13 PM
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1. Race-baiting?
so calling Cuomo out on his comments is 'race-baiting'? Do you think complaining about it is worse than doing it in the first place?
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:13 PM
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2. Calling Obama a fucking KID was offensive to say the least i'm 46 and i didn't like it
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:15 PM
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6. That was a dig at age and inexperience just like Obama digs at "fighting the old fights of the 60s"
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:16 PM
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7. Suuuure it was.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:17 PM
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8. Wow. You're stretching. Nice effort. nt
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:19 PM
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11. Swear on my dog I've never heard "kid" used as a racial slur. You probably haven't either
eom
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:20 PM
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Whatever you say, Sweetheart.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:20 PM
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14. Neither have I...
Perhaps it's too close to "boy?":shrug:
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:00 PM
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45. So it's only ageist and disrespectful of the judgement of young peopl
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:18 PM
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10. Last time I checked... "boy" was the racially offensive epithet...
:shrug:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:24 PM
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18. Kid and Boy are two entirely different words.
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 07:24 PM by Rockholm
Sure, three letters and one syllable each, but two entirely different words.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:25 PM
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19. Wow, you can count to three, good job, Son.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:26 PM
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If he said "young person" they would say that was the same as "boy" too
:rofl:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:29 PM
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21. 'Boy' is not offensive used in the plural for a group of men. nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:59 PM
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29. And what does his age have to do with race?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:07 PM
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34. Obama showed he was an ageist before he even got in the race.
Then he showed he was homophobic.

Then his national co-chair showed he is a misogynist jerk.

For all of those reasons I can no longer stomach him.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:14 PM
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3. Would Hillary Clinton resort to racism to win an election?
"I don't think it was by accident that al-Qaeda decided to test the new prime minister. They watch our elections as closely as we do, maybe more closely than some of our fellows citizens do. Let's not forget you're hiring a president not just to do what a candidate says during the election, you want a president to be there when the chips are down."

-Hillary Clinton
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:21 PM
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15. And what about that is incorrect?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:26 PM
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20. Do you know who this is?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:38 PM
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22. Of course. But I fail to see how discussing a candidates ability to lead
in areas of national security or who might be best suited to handle unknown emergencies can be considered "negative" campaigning. If that is what you're implying. People don't like us. The world is dangerous. Thats not spin, that's fact. And we should take those facts it into consideration when choosing our next president.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:40 PM
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23. Riiiiiight.
Like discussing a candidate's ability to protect America against Willie Horton wasn't negative campaigning.

:eyes:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:49 PM
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24. Wow.You seriously think we shouldn't look at the candidates in terms
of national secuity issues and crisis management? Not sure what to say to you if that's what you believe.

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:22 PM
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39. Your comparison is absolutely irrelevent
Grow a skin
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:59 PM
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28. So you don't have a problem
when Bush/Cheney, Guiliani and now Hillary use fear based rhetoric to scare voters into voting for her? Just checking.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:22 PM
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38. Its absolute BS to say any of our candidates should not address the issues.
There is nothing "fear based" in saying why they think they are the best to handle these things.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:23 PM
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40. Obama supporters are hypercritical, but fall apart at the slightest criticism
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 08:24 PM by niceypoo
...of their own candidate. Such blatant hypocracy.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:15 PM
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4. Gee P2B, I wonder what your thoughts on this subject are
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:15 PM
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5. but the Kiddy Army will continue to leap with the lemmings! sad, but oh well
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:18 PM
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9. How about a deal
No more citing racism by Obama supporters, if Hillary's supporters stop with the woman as victim of men BS?

No more crying for votes either.

Deal?
:pals:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:54 PM
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27. Deal!!!!
Welcom to DU! ;)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:20 PM
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12. This any criticism of Obama is racism stuff will backfire on Obama.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:52 PM
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25. The truth is it will backfire on Clinton too. You think it won't? nt
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:33 PM
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42. I think this whole thing is a piece of shit now.
Everybody is pointing their fingers at everybody else.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:20 PM
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13. The Clinton Campaign has been caught spreading lies that he was Muslim & a drug dealer.
Both have racial overtones, too.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:22 PM
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16. Yes, add those two instances to the list. nt
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:23 PM
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17. That I agree with 100%...
...and that was traced DIRECTLY to Mark Penn, who is a scumbag of monumental proportions.

You know, I LOVE Senator Clinton, but her association w/ the likes of Mark Penn has made it almost impossible for me to get behind her candidacy.
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 PM
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30. and the "shuck and jive" comment
nauseating
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 PM
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31. and the "shuck and jive" comment
nauseating
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:16 PM
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41. Fox News admitted it had no source for the report the lies came from the Clinton camp
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 09:17 PM by papau
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:53 PM
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26. I'm surprised you put all that in only one thread.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 PM
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32.  Why stir all this up?
As soon as people are divided individual members of each side throw bombs. Then a whole war breaks out. Everybody loses.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:03 PM
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33. Well, at least you are finally admitting that it is the CLINTONS
who are on the "offense" and are injecting race into this election, not Obama.



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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:07 PM
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35. Yes. The Clintons are on the offense on the race bullshit.
Call them out on that shit, why doncha?
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:10 PM
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36. I have a theory: The mediawhores are trained to sell you what
they think you want to buy.Facts and reality don't matter, (after all, Bush is president) so it's all a game of perception, and the mediawhores were sure "everyone" wanted Obama, so that's what they sold us. Turns out "everyone" wanted President Obama but the voters.

Remember: It's the press's job to protect and defend King George while crucifying whoever has the best chance of ending Bush's Neocon fascism.

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:20 PM
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37. Apparently anything criticizing Obama is evil, but endlessly dumping on the Clintons is acceptable
Obama's supporters are wayyyy too thin skinned and hypocritical.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:46 PM
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43. no, remember if you are going
to go around slinging mud, you'd better not be surprised when someone calls you on your dirty hands.

I have admired Bill Clinton for years- His behaviour here in NH on the night before the primary shocked and disapointed me.

I didn't expect that kind of crap from him.

He has reason to be ashamed- as does Hillary for the comments she made concerning MLKjr.

peace~
blu

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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:58 PM
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44. they should tell cuomo's son to suck it if they want to make it right....
they should talk about why it's good that these things are coming up and that the public is talking about it. SOMETHING. I'd like to hear them go beyond "why we didn't do anything wrong" type of thing.

i am a clinton supporter, but i also think they should handle this very responsibly, b/c imo statements that hillary made, while i understand what she was saying, she's got to be more responsible than that. And the last thing in the world they should do is let people feel resentful about recent events. They should discuss them honestly and not just try to get out from under people's upsettedness.

Granted, i haven't heard him on the shows recently, but i don't expect in depth honesty from the clinton during a campaign. I still support her but i would like to hear her say lay it on the table.
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