Roseanne calls out Oprah and Obama

[2rth2pwr]

barak obama

is an empty suit selling "hope" in lieu of Truth. Oprah Winfrey helped to elect Arnold Swartzenegger. I have no doubt that she voted her purse by doing this, as she is a large land owner in California, and that ilk fears Dems because they do not want to pay their "fair share" of Cali tax.
http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/2008/01/barak_obama.php
Oprah has given us Swartzenegger and Dr. Phil. If that was not offensive enough to decent thinking people, now she brings us Obama. He has no ideas, no plan and nothing to add other than the cynical pacification of the masses with bedtime stories about hope, while calling Unions "special interest groups" that need to be done away with.
Obama votes with Bush constantly funding this terrible endless war.
Oprah, you play the race card and the gender card too.
You are a closeted republican and chose Barak Obama because you do not like other women who actually stand for something to working American Women besides glamour, angels, hollywood and dieting!
When Americans find out that Obama backs right wing corporate racist anti worker bullshit, they will not vote for him, and the victory will go to the most racist right wing republican ever.... Mccain, who is a fascist!
That the culinary service workers in vegas have promised barak their vote,( he is anti union in his votes) over edwards, who is a pro-union man, just proves how stupid americans are and how they can be tricked so easily by the color of a person's skin...exactly what MLK hated!
Obama doesn't even back reproductive rights for any woman! It is historical that Oprah Winfrey, beloved of women, chooses a flashy man with small credentials over a seasoned woman politician with 35 years of experience...and sells that to the female demographic who look to her for inspiration!

[Didereaux]

1. omigawd, Edwards, Clinton camps....put a contract on her before she endorses you

[aquart]

32. We're fine. Inclusive. Big Tent.

I like Oprah. She doesn't. I'm fine.

[AX10]

2. Also, Oprah gave us Bush.

Bush was trailing until Oprah had that putz on her show. His "awe schucks" appearance helped him greatly.

Unions are not on the same level as corporations. The later has alot more power than the former.

[RummyTheDummy]

21. She also had Gore on her show that year, too

But I guess that little fact escaped you, Hillbot.

[AX10]

22. She should have stayed out of the election all together.

..Obambot!

[RummyTheDummy]

23. Oh I see

When someone agrees with you they should speak out. But when they don't, they should just shut the fuck up. Is that it?

[AX10]

28. No, Oprah has done far more harm than good.

Just look at her school in South Africa. What a success that is! NOT!

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. you mean as opposed to the terrific success Iraq has turned out to be for Hil?

[CyberPieHole]

117. You mean the Iraq war that Edwards voted for, as well? Is that the one?

:rofl:

[Tarheel_Dem]

144. you mean the one he had the guts to admit was a mistake?

that's what I mean when I talk about "integrity"; something that is sorely lacking in your candidate.

[RummyTheDummy]

33. oh yeah

I almost forgot about her school in S. Africa. That settles it, I'm voting for Hillary. :sarcasm:

[Major Hogwash]

41. Bush went on Leno's program, too. Let's blame him instead.

Because he had Rumsfeld on his program after 2004!

[JuniperLea]

109. Hey, you're the one who started with the name calling!

You provoked, now suck it up like an adult, umkay?

[Kahuna]

59. Yep. For THAT she will never be forgiven.

:puke:

[NYCGirl]

118. You do realize that she had Gore on her show before she had GWB.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03E5D91638F931A2575AC0A9669C8B63

[XemaSab]

196. I hate to interrupt this LOVERLY flamewar

but every time I see the picture in your sig line I crack up. :D

[debbierlus]

168. They should just stay the hell out of it - Oprah included

She has a billion dollar empire & she can influence the race WAY too much.

[Colobo]

3. She doesn't know WTF she's talking about.

[loveangelc]

4. that was one of the most incoherent thing ever, not to mention full of lies.

Hillary actually voted for the war Roseanne you dumbass, and also continues to fund it. Moron.

Ugh, old women like her who vote for Hillary because she's a woman thinking it will let them have a voice or whatever make me so angry.

[Hobarticus]

10. As does Obama...eom

[loveangelc]

13. so why is only Obama at fault????

and its full of lies. Obama is pro choice. And yes, Roseanne, obama backs racist organizations. What a total moron.

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[LostinVA]

66. "old women like her" -- OMFG

[Le Taz Hot]

79. "old women like her . . "

53 is old??? :wtf: To quote Judge Judy: "Beauty fades, dumb is forever."

[codeindigo]

89. lol....

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[1corona4u]

133. Like the say...

50 is the new 40.....;-)

[jbnow]

164. Old at heart nt

[krabigirl]

107. Old women?? whatever

[madmom]

123. what about the blacks voting for Obama simply because he's black....hmmmm?

[dailykoff]

135. LOL.

Looks like you knocked over a beehive.

[countmyvote4real]

188. It was not my understanding from the snip that Roseanne's rant connected those two issues.

Her rant seems to support Edwards as the preferable pro-union candidate.

I think she referenced HRC as a further example of Oprah's choice for race over gender regardless of their policies, actions or absence thereof.

I agree with the substance of her rant, but I'm not Roseanne and wouldn't choose to say it that way.

[RazBerryBeret]

190. I agree...

at first I felt guilty being a woman and NOT supporting Hillary....but hey, what can I say...it's like my mom used to tell me "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"...good advice for Roseanne--he he

[seriousstan]

5. She was on a TV show once ....right?

[aquart]

26. Eight years? One of the most popular in the country.

She never has to work again unless she just feels like it.

Have you done that well?

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

78. One of the most feminist and pro-gay sitcoms ever

And one of the few realistically depicting the lives of the working class. Interesting to see people act dismissive about it on a "progressive" forum.

[Le Taz Hot]

96. I loved the Roseanne show

and although I don't agree with her candidate choice, she's an excellent writer and has achieved a great given her history. I loved the fact that her house was messy, the actors weren't pretty, Hollywood types and looked like normal everyday people. I like the fact that they took on gay issues, teenage pregnancy, physical abuse and many other (at the time) taboo subjects. The network tried to run rough shod over her until her show became #1 at which point she threw the network writers and producers off and replaced them with people who didn't offer up the same old formulaic bullshit.

And, btw, just because someone claims to be "progressive" or "liberal" doesn't make it so. Some of the most die-hard, DLC-loving DUers actually have those names in their screen names, or some variance and couldn't be more right wing if they registered Republican.

[Bluenorthwest]

174. What do you think is her candidate choice?

She backs Edwards. She has Gore/Edwards tee-shirts on her website for sale. She has been blogging daily for a long time. Her views on Impeachment, the candidates, Israel, God, it is all there.
She just does not adore Obama and also hate Hillary.

[seriousstan]

204. You do understand the difference between "Roseanne" the show and Roseanne the actress?

Why should I give two hoots about what Roseanne thinks? Why not Arnold or Oprah or even Chuck Norris? Actors are not always the greatest thinkers but they are the people with the best access to the media.

I have liked several Tom Cruise movies but I don't think he is a political guide I wish to follow.

[Colobo]

6. She can't even write Barack's name correctly and her punctuation sucks.

[Tunkamerica]

179. ?

she should hire a editor/and an proofreader,,

[Barack_America]

7. You want to talk about an endorsement you don't want...Rosanne Barr...

The people who loathe Hillary, loathe her even more. And I can't think of anyone who actually respects her. Terrible endorsement *shudder*

[Stardust]

63. I respect Roseanne Barr a great deal. She happens to donate 1/3 of

her income to charity. Do you?

[Barack_America]

102. I did not know that.

But I do know better than to speak in absolutes. Of course there's going to be somebody out there who respects her...just, not very many.

[JVS]

97. Hey, I liked her TV show. But I like Chuck Norris' work too, and look who he's for

[CyberPieHole]

120. I respect both of them...think about that. But thanks for your concern...

:hi:

[Tunkamerica]

180. Lots of people respect her. n/t

[1corona4u]

8. I have to agree with her.

[Colobo]

12. LOL! Really?

[1corona4u]

14. Well, not all of it, but she has a lot of it right.

[Colobo]

15. Like what?

While you tell me, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrFW2aYHVR8&NR=1

[LostinVA]

68. I don't like Roseanne's humor, but she was set up re: teh National Anthem

[iamthebandfanman]

81. no kidding

did someone actually think the poor woman could sing after hearing how she spoke ?

paaaleeease.

it was supposed to be a staged humorous act of some sort, not an attack on the country... holy jebus.

[femrap]

112. Me too...1corona4u.

I think she got to the real gist of Obama and Oprah.

The one thing I praise Oprah for is getting her audience to read books. Wish she had them read Naomi Klein, Naomi Wolf, and some feminist writers though....can you imagine her audience reading Dworkin?

I really think that trial in TX vs. the beef boys really changed her....that's when she met Dr. Phil.

[Nailzberg]

9. Sing the Anthem for us, you patriot you.

:puke:

[aquart]

29. That's how you dismiss her?

That, I have to assume, is how you and Obama will treat everyone you disagree with.

I guess you really are uniters and not dividers (but Hillary is polarizing, LOL!), just like our George.

[Nailzberg]

34. Well, perhaps since Obama has been dissed for not wearing a flag pin.

I'll dismiss Roseanne for having absolutely no dignity when performing the national anthem, and spitting on the ground afterward.

I'd also dismiss her for spreading patently false information about Obama's record on reproductive rights. If she's going to opine, she can at least get the facts straight.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

80. There's no relation, Roseanne didn't bring up the lapel pin crap

Roseanne was hired to do a comic version of the anthem. She was a sitcom star, it was assumed that people would know to laugh at her inability to sing it properly. She told them she can't sing very good, but they said it'll be fun, people will laugh. It was wasn't her intention to be disrespectful, she was comic trying to be funny. Your take on it sounds exactly like what a right-winger would say, proving her point that Obama's an empty suit that attracts pretend progressives.

On Edit: And her spitting on the ground was another innocent joke that was misinterpreted (by right-wingers), she was imitating baseball players spitting on the ground. The whole thing was definitely ill-conceived, but to act like she set out to spit on the flag is just retarded.

[me b zola]

195. Since we're setting the record straight...

You seem to be obsessed with the reverence with which a person sings the national anthem. So in my most solemn voice, I must inform you that Roseanne grabbed her crotch and spat on the ground in response to hecklers in the stadium. Perhaps you can sleep better tonight knowing that Roseanne did not make an obscene gesture--nor release any spittle--at the flag or anthem.

[goodgd_yall]

47. Yeah, that was pretty good

Parodying the rampant phony patriotism in this country. I loved it!

[CyberPieHole]

121. Obama's a PATRIOT through and through...

:rofl:

[Colobo]

11. Her Roseanne, here's your finest moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPAMn_nVps

[avaistheone1]

36. I wonder if anyone has a video of Obama's finest moment doing coke.

Touche.

[Tarheel_Dem]

38. or the Big Dog....not inhaling?

and forgetting what the meaning of "is" is, or smoking the legendary "cigar"? You Clintonites really don't wanna go there with the personal stuff. Way too much out there that can come back and bite you all in the ass. Obama didn't lie or prevaricate about his past drug use, the same can't be said for everyone.

[LostinVA]

72. Yet another poster bringing up Lewinsky

I am sick of RW talking points, sources, and attacks around here.

[Tarheel_Dem]

84. get used to it, when you Clintonites go personal it'll come back

to bite you in the ass everytime. Way too much ammunition from other campaigns. And like the Clinton campaign seems to have figured out, you use everything in your arsenal judging from the posts by her sycophants, like you & Roseanne.

[CyberPieHole]

124. No one will be bringing up Barack Obama's middle name...or his Coke habit...

no, that would be racist. Though, of course, Hussein is the middle name he is obviously ashamed of, or he would proudly use it in his campaign. Obama brought up his drug habit...it's fair game and par for the course. If he didn't want it to be used he shouldn't have written about it in the first place.

[Tarheel_Dem]

137. how many candidates, or people for that matter, use their middle name in

regular conversation? And, I agree his past use is fair game, because he didn't try to hide it, or triangulate about it. That can't be said for everyone involved in this competition.

[CyberPieHole]

140. What is Senator Clinton trying to hide? Or triangulate?

[Tarheel_Dem]

150. HER ANKLES????????

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Cha]

165. But, you're not tired of jumping

on the fucking bandwagon to smear Obama with stupid roseanne lies.

[XemaSab]

197. It was in response to a pretty harsh comment about Obama

I think, per GDP rules, that it's fair to state bluntly that most of the candidates have moments that they're just not proud of. :shrug:

[CyberPieHole]

122. Has Obama told us everything there is to know about his COCAINE snorting?

I want to know when and where and how many times and whom he bought it from and every single detail there is to know about his COCAINE habit. Obama brought the issue up...it will not die.

[Tarheel_Dem]

136. Whitewater; The Rose Law Firm; The Travel Office; The Blue Dress;

Vince Foster; Gennifer Flowers; I could go on & on but you get the gist. It'll all be dredged up for 24/7 news coverage, and we'll be stuck in the 90's again. Not looking forward to it.

[CyberPieHole]

139. Hussein. Mardrasa. Jakarta. COCAINE. McClurkin. et al...

so much fun to be had by all.

[Tarheel_Dem]

149. it's all fair game............n/t

[Yuugal]

43. I loved her for that nt

[goodgd_yall]

49. Me too!

[LostinVA]

71. And, I believe her when she says she was set up, basically

WTF hires a non-singing comedian to sing one of the hardest songs to sing? No one. The ball club wanted a "performance," and then freaked out when the crowd freaked out. She gave them what she wanted, and they through her under the bus.

I'm not a fan of her comedy, but using this to dismiss her is bogus.

You'd probably think I'm disgusting, too, because I refuse to stand for either the Anthem or the Pledge.I also leave the area instead. I personally believe they are inherently fascist.

[goodgd_yall]

160. Who did you mean to post to?

I'm all for not standing for the anthem and pledge. I've done the same myself when I felt I would get my ass kicked (I do have a sense of self-preservation). I don't think Yuugal or I would argue with you.

[ingac70]

16. She is either horrilbly misinformed OR...

a bare faced fucking liar. ...

http://pewforum.org/religion08/profile.php?CandidateID=4

Abortion
Obama supports abortion rights. In the Illinois State Senate, he voted against a bill to ban late-term abortions. Obama said that he did not support the ban because it did not contain a clause to protect the life of the mother. During the April 2007 Democratic debate, Obama said that he trusts women to make their own decisions about whether or not to have an abortion "in conjunction with their doctors and their families and their clergy."

[Nailzberg]

20. It's very likely she is too dumb to know better.

And considering as a comedienne she can only get booked at an off-strip Vegas lounge, you think she'd have a little more respect for the Nevada hotel workers.

[aquart]

31. That was his sticking point? The life of the mother?

So if the bill banning the late abortions CONTAINED a life of the mother clause, he would have voted FOR it?

[ingac70]

48. Be for real...

This is late term abortion we are talking about. Show up to Planned Parenthood 8 months preggers and tell them you want an abortion "just because" and see what they tell you.

Conservatives are trying to ban these procedures by lying and saying any old body can go in and get one, when that is patently untrue, there has to be a medical reason to get one that late. All part of the game they play to one day get rid of all abortion.


<United States Supreme Court ruling: Roe v. Wade (1973):

Prior to the U.S. Supreme Court's famous Roe v. Wade decision, abortions were permitted in certain states but banned in others. The court ruled in 1973 that, anywhere in the U.S.: 1
a woman and her doctor may freely decide to terminate a pregnancy during the first trimester,
state governments can restrict abortion access after the first trimester with laws intended to protect the woman's health.
abortions after fetal viability must be available if the woman's health or life are at risk; state governments can prohibit other abortions.>

[2rth2pwr]

51. In your hypothetical, what is the cut off date?

7 months 2 1/2 weeks ok?

[ingac70]

52. what Roe calls for....

I posted the law.

[aquart]

54. The above includes "health."

Again I ask, he would have voted if a clause was included that specified only the life of the mother?

[ingac70]

65. How should I know?

He would have been well within the parameters of Roe v. Wade if he had done so.

[featherman]

17. Guess she's a Hillary Clinton supporter... LOL

It was subtle but I caught a slight hint of it here and there

[pansypoo53219]

19. i do loathe her bringing

dr fill a national platform.

[Catsbrains]

61. Dr. Phil sucks ass. nt

[avrdream]

25. Sizzzlin!

Recommended reading.

[question everything]

27. And Roseanne's opinion is important becasue? (nt)

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. It isn't, and as the Repubs say.."let the market decide", well

the market decided that she was totally irrelevant, and she has now taken her rightful place playing the same venues she played before the TV Show. WOW! what a success story. :sarcasm:

[CyberPieHole]

125. Is that the same "market" that decided that your candidate spent too much time on his hair?

Or do we need to dig up the "I'm so pretty" video from youtube? The repubs had fun with that one, didn't they?

[Tarheel_Dem]

138. Oh, go kiss Hillary's fat ass ankles, if there's not a pantsuit stuck to 'em...n/t

[CyberPieHole]

145. LOL...bitter much...

I knew that would get to you...just didn't know how much. Truth hurts doesn't it?

[Maine-ah]

85. no more important than Oprah's.

or your's or mine.

[avaistheone1]

172. Roseanne is like everyone here. She's is expressing her opinion.

No more, and perhaps less.

[DesertFlower]

37. who the hell cares what

roseann says.

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. you're absolutely right...most of the folks that Obama has attracted

into the political fray don't even know who the hell she is, and the rest of us don't give a damn.

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[wiley]

44. This thread is insane.

[2rth2pwr]

45. Don't ya luv it? look at #49! LOL. nt

[LostinVA]

73. I know

[goodgd_yall]

46. Wow!

Pretty gutsy...

[KaptBunnyPants]

50. I'm surprised, I didn't think she liked the Clintons anymore.

I recall her being very angry at Bill after the whole Lewinsky thing. Of course, that didn't really reflect badly on Hillary, but she said some quite nasty things at the time. And what's this 35 years of experience? 8 years as Senator, 8 as First Lady, where's the rest coming from?

[LostinVA]

75. Clinton has done ALOT more than her years in the Senate and as First Lady

They've been posted here a zillion times.

That's not bitchy at you, but the info is out there and here.t many people refused to accept it -- they just start making stuff up like she was Sam Walton's personal attorney.

[silverojo]

53. Um...Obama's pro-choice

And Roseanne's certifiable.

Moving on, nothing more to see here....

[chascarrillo]

55. Lies. Please retract, Thanks.

[Azathoth]

56. Sounds like someone is off their meds....

Please tell me no one takes this incoherent diatribe seriously.

{On edit, after reading through this thread, it appears I was sadly mistaken.}

[bowens43]

57. Roseanne always was a moron.

[earth mom]

58. Go Roseanne! YOU ROCK! Love it Love it Love it!

I want one of these:









p.s. the denial on this thread proves that some people have sh*t for brains.

[cali]

115. Actually, pumpkin

your post demonstrates your claim that some people on this thread have shit for brains. Good job.

[lojasmo]

60. That will most likely benefit Barak.

Barr is ignorant, and widely hated.

[CyberPieHole]

126. Yeah, so much so that her show ran for years and years and years...

[robbedvoter]

62. Maybe so, but wasn't she for Nader in 2000? Kinda puts perspective on all she says...

Besides the surrealistic absurdity of "battle of the celebrity big women surrogates"

[Vinca]

64. Can we get her to open some Hillary events with the national anthem??

:rofl:

[DaLittle Kitty]

67. Barack and His Mom pic

[NYCGirl]

98. I love that picture. His mom was beautiful, and Barack was a cutie! NT

[HamdenRice]

69. So an African American woman can never endorse an African American man without

playing the race card? Is Roseane saying that?

Her rant is so stupid, it's actually difficult to believe she would put it on her site.

What a moron.

"Brain dead washed up comediene says former Harvard law professor has no ideas" -- right.

[LostinVA]

76. I don't think Arnold is African American

[Tarheel_Dem]

88. the poster is referring to Oprah's endorsement of Obama...

but I suspect you knew that.

[Anouka]

86. Yes, she's saying that -- but it's ok for a woman to choose a woman

Roseanne is being a moron on this one. But she's not alone in it.

[defendandprotect]

185. Roseanne is saying that Oprah makes corporate/$$$ decisions ... that's why Obama--!!!

[DaLittle Kitty]

70. Baracks Mom and Dad pic

[Renew Deal]

74. So Rosanne is saying she's a racist?

Sounds like it.

[William769]

77. A good lesson learned here is don't fuck with a Diva.

[bigwillq]

82. Roseanne is kick ass

I don't agree with 100 percent of the things she says but I think she is one cool lady.

[JVS]

83. Are we to trust a person who married and then promoted the career of Tom Arnold as a good judge of..

character and capabilities?

[iconoclastic cat]

87. Ha! Now, *that's* funny! Unlike Tom Arnold. nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

93. Ding! Ding! Ding! Thank you JVS, you're our grand prize winner....

I can't believe anyone is taking Roseanne seriously.

[Strawman]

104. Yes. That's what I was going to say

Roseanne gave us Tom Arnold. Who gave us what? "The Stupids"?

Hardly puts her in a postion to criticize others.

[kevsand]

90. That entire web site is down now.

"This Account Has Been Suspended"

Something's fishy about all of this...

[JVS]

95. I'm guessing that the traffic exceeded bandwidth allowances

Maybe it gad been hacked

[Bread and Circus]

91. NARAL gives Obama a 100% rating. This is in stark

contrast to what you post, which just seems like a pack of lies.

[MadBadger]

92. Roseanne should check her facts before running her mouth again.

[sniffa]

94. what an incoherent piece.

hilary is lucky to have Barr backing her.

[0007]

99. bttft

[ZinZen]

100. I have no problem with Hillary

gaining Rosanne's endorsement. She may just want to remind her to take her meds on a consistent basis because she is CRAZY!

[Beacool]

101. Thanks Roseanne for speaking out!!!!!!

Give them hell!!!!!

I don't forget Oprah's tacit approval of the Terminator and Bush!!!

So, is she now a Democrat? In which case, why didn't she support her friend Hillary? Remember her Oprah? The woman who you kept urging to run for president, the woman who you asked to hand you your Emmy in 2005? I guess that loyalty to a friend is not important when other issues are factored in.........

[Tarheel_Dem]

103. you begrudge Oprah endorsing Obama, who by the way, is also a friend?

Maybe Oprah, like many of us, is just sick of Clintons & Bushes, and wish they would all just go the hell away?

[Beacool]

105. Yes I do, I value loyalty.

[Tarheel_Dem]

106. My point exactly, Oprah saw something in Obama that ...

she didn't see in Hillary. She's friends with both of them (or was). Like I said, many people are just sick of the Clintons and want them to just go away now.

Say what you will, Hillary is no "agent of change"...she represents everything that is antiquated & wrong with the Democratic Party.

[CyberPieHole]

129. Edwards represents "change" how and in what way?

I doubt he could get himself elected "dog catcher" much less President. Let's be real about that.

[CyberPieHole]

127. I don't think your candiate is doing too well after NH...

could it be the world telling him to "just go the hell away"? Vitriol cuts many ways.:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

143. Sadly, John's time may have come & gone....but he'll leave the

race with his integrity intact. Something the Clintons (and obviously you)know absolutely nothing about. Bill Clinton is the reason George Bush now sits in Al Gore's house, and I'll never forgive him for that.

[CyberPieHole]

147. Thanks....

you are very amusing...but I have to put you on ignore now. You aren't worth the energy.:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

148. Ditto..........n/t

[whatchamacallit]

108. I'm not sure the Oprah/Obama beat down was necessary, but

I kinda dig the way Roseanne hangs her feelings out there and doesn't equivocate. Sometimes she's full of shit, sometimes she's not, but she calls it like she sees it.

[Cameron27]

111. That's exactly what I like about her.

[Cha]

177. Yeah, full on lyin'

class all the way.

[femrap]

110. A big K and R to this!

Roseanne says it like she sees it.

[cali]

116. She a lying delusional and illiterate woman.

how interesting that you enjoy being associated with this shit.

[femrap]

152. And so are you.

I love that Ignore Button! I really don't believe that you are even old enough to vote. buh bye.

[cali]

153. Oh, I'm just devastated

Rosanne barr is either so ignorant or so dishonest that she completely misrepresented Obama's record on abortion rights.

You and Barr are pitiful.

[redqueen]

113. Did Obama call unions "special interest groups"?

Why does she claim he doesn't stand for reproductive rights?

Those are some serious claims.

[NYCGirl]

114. Planned Parenthood gave Obama a rating of 100%. So I have no idea where

she's coming from.

Edited to add: And so does NARAL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/06/naral-reaffirms-support-f_n_80107.html

[LostinVA]

162. From his comments on the "700 Club," for one

"Prayerful"

[XemaSab]

198. How does using the word "prayerful" make him a FReeper again?

:shrug:

[Egnever]

119. Roseanne Bar?

The woman that sang the national anthem ? The crazy psychic lady on TV?

Wow. Nice rant!

[Perky]

128. I alerted this whole thread on principle. Can I get an Amen?

WHo the heck cares what Rosanne says for or against any candidate

Scratch scratch pateeeeewwww

[Perky]

131. Amen

[Perky]

132. AMEN

[dailykoff]

146. Amen.

[MrMickeysMom]

151. MMmmmenn..

:popcorn:

excuse me, ... AMEN!

[goodgd_yall]

159. Wha? Oprah=good, Roseanne=bad?

Come on, be fair.

[CyberPieHole]

130. Kick and recommend...Love this thread...heads are EXPLODING!!!

:rofl:

[desi]

134. Yeah kickin' for Roseann

kickin' ass

[AGirl]

141. I agree with Roseanne

I don’t think she got everything right, but she captured the way Obama has received way more press and support than he deserves, and he wouldn’t have gotten them if he was a woman. Obama is not a bad guy, he is an inspiring figure, but he is as much of a politican as Clinton but he isn’t getting the same negative due to the fact that he is a relatively newbie and he is a man. Obama ducked on many issues, and refused to vote yes or no on some controversial issues because he doesn’t want the republicans to use it against him, I think that’s why when it comes to standing up for what you believe in , Hillary is not any worse than Obama. In fact, Obama has proven to compromise his principles in order to appease the Republicans, like the health care issues in Illinois. I think Roseanne expresses that sentiment.

[ZombieHorde]

154. Holy shit! A post that is not just a lame insult.

:thumbsup:

[dailykoff]

142. "a flashy man with small credentials"?

Is that supposed to be funny? Somebody please roll the gurney back into the morgue.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

155. OK, I officially hate this election.

Wake me when it's over.

[midnight]

156. It took me a while to start watching her show, but I came to see that

she presented a more realistic middle class sitcome. She does not shy away from what is so obvious that she can not say otherwise. Can you see her as the Speaker of the House. She would get things moving.

[in_cog_ni_to]

157. Obama has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood. Where did Rosanne get the idea he doesn't support

reproductive rights for women? I didn't know he is anti-union and wants them all done away with, Special Interest Groups? I think not. Has he said that? Really?

I do agree with Rosanne about Swartzenegger though. That was a real low point for Op.

[LostinVA]

163. Mainly his "700 Club" comments on abortion rights

[in_cog_ni_to]

173. OK and what were those? I'd love to know. n/t

[dailykoff]

158. Obama has Oprah, and Hillary has Roseanne.

No wonder she won New Hampshire!

:heavysarcasm:

[Bluenorthwest]

175. roseanne supports John Edwards

So.....

[defendandprotect]

184. That would be good news . . . is it true?

[oasis]

161. Oprah becomes more clueless with every step she takes up her ivory tower.

:dunce:

[defendandprotect]

186. NBC used Oprah to mimic Donahue's shows --- and then switched her to glamour, idiotic stuff ---

but Oprah has made a billion or more on it --- and
she is not going to buck corporate-fascism ---

I don't blame her !!!


but wish she hadn't made the Obama effort ---

or the Schwartzenegger effort ---

[rug]

166. I'm reserving judgment until I hear from Tom Arnold.

[Spiffarino]

167. K&R

Not so much for the substance than for the rawness of Roseanne's rant. Her blogs are the truth as she sees it and screw the consequences. Even if I disagree I have to respect her guts.

[Alizaryn]

169. What a class act she is ...

[mzmolly]

170. Rosanne is a feminist, and I love her. But she's wrong on Obama.

Obama's record/quotes on choice:


Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
Stem cells hold promise to cure 70 major diseases. (Aug 2007)
Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006)
Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006)
Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004)
Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004)
Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)

...

Enforce existing safety laws against Chinese products. (Dec 2007)
Stand firm against CAFTA for labor & environmental standards. (Aug 2007)
Congress subsidizes megafarms & hurts family farmers. (Aug 2007)
People don't want cheaper T-shirts if it costs their job. (Aug 2007)
Amend NAFTA to add labor agreements. (Aug 2007)
Reinvest in communities that are burdened by globalization. (Jun 2007)
Insist on labor and human rights standards for China trade. (Jul 2004)
Fair trade should have tangible benefits for US. (Jun 2004)
Voted YES on free trade agreement with Oman. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade. (Jul 2005)


http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Barack_Obama.htm

Obama is pro-choice and pro-union. I like when Edwards gets an endorsement (he's my candidate) but I prefer that those who do so take 5 seconds to find out what Obama's positions are before castigating him in the process?

[Cha]

178. It sounds like she's lying

or she wasn't intelligent enough to investitigate before she started her slanderous attacks on Obama. Either way it's not much of an endorsement for hillary whereas John Kerry's is impressive to me.

But, hillary's surrogates are smearing Kerry and sticking up for roseanne even when she lies.

Thanks, mzmolly for offering some facts up here.

[mzmolly]

194. No problem Z.

There is NO WAY a front runner in the Democratic Party would be anti-choice and anti-union. Rosanne, as you said, needs to take a moment to investigate before she bloviates. ;)

[McCamy Taylor]

187. Roseanne is a middle aged woman from a working class background

who got mad as hell watching the corporate media take a dump all over the first serious female presidential candidate this country has ever had and at seeing Obama and Edwards add themselves to the pile on.

All the Obama supporters in this country had better take a long hard look at what the middle aged women are going through right now, because if Obama is the nominee, you will be going through what the middle aged women are going through after the convention, when the MSM starts taking a dump all over Obama for being Black and for being related to Muslims (and they will Swiftboat him and call him a Muslim himself) for the crime of not being the Republican nominee . You are going to be so angry that you will not be able to see straight.

What I would like to see is the candidates get together and chastise the MSM for the "help" it gives to one candidate or another. I would like to hear Obama tell Chris Matthews to lay off the sexist talk towards Hillary. I would like to hear both Hillary and Obama remind the public that Edwards is still in the race. When the candidates take advantage of the MSM corruption when it benefits them, they put themselves at the mercy of that same corrupt MSM when it decides to attack them.

I saw someone today claiming that it was Obama that put Fox on a leash, however it was Edwards who "just said no " to Fox News debates---even though he could always have used the publicity.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/04/obama_to_nix_fo.html

[mzmolly]

193. She was not accurate in her portrayal of Obama. This isn't about being a woman or being black

it's about our country. I agree with you that our candidates have to take a stand when possible against the media. I think we need to remind THEM that this race is not about skin color or gonads.

[Caoimhe]

171. FFS GET A ROOM

you two.. you know who you are. The most immature examples of so called progressives I've ever witnessed. My God.. .won't one of you STEP UP AND BE THE BIGGER PERSON?

You are turning folks off of DU with this juvenile crap.

Thanks for listening.

[flasoapbox]

176. So which celebs are backing Edwards?

I know of Susan Sarandon...right? Anyone else?

[Tarheel_Dem]

181. Tim Robbins, Mellencamp, Willie Nelson to name a few....n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

182. Danny Glover, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt, Lance Armstrong, Harry Belafonte

Nobody young and hip.

[Tarheel_Dem]

201. Lance Armstrong? Really?

I don't know why I thought he was a rePuke. Good on him.

[flasoapbox]

202. I knew Lance Armstrong was a Democrat now...

...but I didn't know he was backing Edwards. Nice!

[defendandprotect]

183. LOVE Rosanne --- !! But only agree with the Obama part here --- HRC... NO, NO, NO -- !!!!

Roseanne Barr is a very strong feminist --- love her for that!!

But don't understand why she is overlooking EDWARDS . . .
except that I understand her excitement to vote for a female!!!

[Danger Mouse]

189. This thread is a beautiful flaming train wreck.

And by flaming, i mean two trains smashing into each other that are on fire.
It's that flametastic.
Honestly...does your mouth taste like shit from kissing your respective cantidates ass so much?
Roseanne is full of shit, as usual.

[XemaSab]

199. One carrying coal and the other one carrying depleted uranium to Nevada

and hitting each other so hard it all sort of melts and explodes and all there is is little molten piles of radioactive slag and a HUGH black cloud choking out everything in a 20 mile radius.

That kind of flaming trainwreck.

:popcorn:

[jdadd]

191. ......

:popcorn:

[zabet]

192. The way this thread is going,

Some of y'all may wanna stop by here...

[calteacherguy]

200. This makes Roseanne look so stupid, which I guess she is in fact.

"he has no plans....blah, blah, blah"

She's loses all credibility when she says that. Obama has as many plans as Hillary. Why can't people discuss the candidates reasonably without resorting to such childish nonsense?

[ileus]

203. I may have to switch my vote to Obama now.

[zulchzulu]

205. My suspicions that Roseanne would end up a venomous crackhead have come true

It's sad. I hope she gets help.