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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:42 PM
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Most Latinos I know are voting for Hillary. Including my mom.
I myself have not supported anybody and have no idea who I will vote for.
I'm a Clark 04 supporter. I will probably write in Gore or Clark maybe a vote for Gravel.
I'm enjoying watching everything unfold.

I'm currently working on a project on engaging minority women to vote
and what I'm finding personally is a huge support for Hillary among Latinos.
I don't think Richardson had huge support.

I live in the northern CA, maybe it's different in other parts of the country.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:44 PM
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1. My boyfriend is too
He's Puerto Rican.

So that's two votes for Clinton.

Do you know any data concerning how the Latino vote will go? :shrug:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:53 PM
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5. Last Cali Poll I Saw Hispanics Were Breaking More Than Three To One For Clinton
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:45 PM
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2. I hope that's the trend
very interesting, thanks.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:49 PM
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3. Aide: "President Obama, we've just been attacked, you must make a decision NOW!"
Obama: "Present"
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:52 PM
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4. Obama is NOT popular with Hispanics. Hillary knows how to help them.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:55 PM
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6. He's not popular with Asians either. .. by wider margins than Latinos
What exactly is Hillary going to do for Asian-Americans? if that's the argument for Latinos.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:24 PM
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12. How about just leaving them alone. They seem to be doing quit well.
Why do you think Asians will vote Hillary over Obama? They are more likely to vote for McCain.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:27 PM
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15. because someone here was giving stats, and Asians were 4 to 1
Hillary over Obama.


McCain doesn't enter the equation yet, because this is about (or was supposed to be about) Hillary versus Obama's non-black and non-white support.

But since you bring it up: *are* Asians more likely to back McCain than any candidate, Democrat or Republican?

Are Asians usually Republican or Democrat? how does that break down with the different Asian-American groups? because I honestly don't know. :(
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:32 PM
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22. True.
But here in New York, we had to carve out political space for Asians who formed a pretty hefty bloc of Democratic voters. So don't assume they'll all go Republican by any means.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:27 PM
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16. See? I knew it.
Somebody posted something the other day about "people of color" with the assumption (don't even remember what the talk was about) that they would vote as a bloc and I thought, "Nuh uh. Not happening."

Just as the Jews and Italians used to beat the crap out of each other in the Bronx in my mother's childhood, so now Hispanics and blacks share that space uneasily. And Chinatown doesn't want anything to do with any of them. They've spread into the Italian, Jewish, Armenian, Greek, Irish, and German otherwise known as "white" neighborhoods.

I wouldn't attempt to predict their voting habits. When I did phone surveys, I noticed a fair number of Asians identified as Republican on strict family values. And then some belong to the Catholic church like the Hispanics, and some to Protestant denominations like African Americans.

Do Cubans vote the same as Puerto Ricans?

The needs and aspirations of our "people of color" are not the same. It's a kaleidoscope of conflicting interests and they will be the ones to decide which are most important to each of them.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:38 PM
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25. Men focus on the Big Picture, women on the small details.
As long as we're doing dumb jokes in this thread, do you all remember the one about the husband who bragged that he makes all the big decisions in his family, like about world peace or should we go to war and his wife makes all the little decisions like where we live and what we eat and what school the kids go to.

The disconnect could be that simple.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:16 PM
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36. Dude I ain't detail-oriented. I'm a big picture kinda gal. /nt
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:31 AM
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40. Wow...
that's condescending.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:20 PM
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11. SNAP!
Funny.........
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:55 PM
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7. "I'm currently working on a project on engaging minority women to vote."
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 06:56 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Great... We need to get more Hispanics to vote... They are not represnted in the numbers you would expect based on their percentage of the population...I think they represent fifteen percent of the population but seven percent of the electorate...
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:08 PM
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10. It's been an eye opening experience.

My job is to find out why we don't vote and start up dialogue on how to engage Latinas.
We're a force to be reckoned with if we utilize the right tools.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:47 PM
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32. And that's how you open their eyes.
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 07:48 PM by aquart
So many don't think anything they do will have any importance in the world. But they will be the ones to teach all the basic rules to their children. Their votes on school boards and local two-bit elections will determine if their kid or their neighbor's gets hit by a car because there wasn't a traffic light or a stop sign.

Most importantly, I expect you remind them that they aren't considered LIKELY to vote; they've already been discounted. So if they show up...everything changes. The election will pivot on THEIR preference. Like with Hillary in New Hampshire. If the ones who weren't expected show up...they will make such a difference...every candidate will start sucking up to them. It's what Obama was counting on. It's what Hillary wasn't counting on. And look how it changed everything.

With updating, that's basically my vote stump speech to my students.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:00 PM
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8. They said her support was lower income.
That includes a whole lot of first generation citizens and their kids who haven't worked their way up yet. Hispanics being our fastest growing minority, it figures there would be a whole bunch of them in that category.

It just occurred to me, if Hillary is a heartless "corporatist" fascist beloved by Wall Street and our ultra-rich masters, how come it's the poor who consider her caring and not the wealthy elites? Odd.

I don't know why Richardson didn't generate notice. His name? Which confused me. He's associated with foreign affairs. That plays better with higher income than lower income which wants to know about basics at home. What Korea negotiates doesn't mean anything to a harried mother of two and one on the way.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:03 PM
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9. As odd as poor folk voting for Bush in 2000 and 2004?
Maybe it's the same deal. But who knows, right?

I think it's mostly feel goodism for her husband Bill. You could get gas for 80, 90 cents per gallon. Bill's administration feels like Paradise in comparison with Bush' hell.

People want to get back to Bill. But was Bill really all that?
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:25 PM
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13. I think part of it is Bill, but
according to my mom, Hillary is a strong women; intelligent, a mother, and she's going up against all these other men.
The one thing my mom doesn't like about Hillary is IWR.
She believes all of the 08 Dem candidates are pretty much the same as far as policy.
My mom isn't the type of person who will go research everything about a candidate. She gets her news from the radio and
the Spanish channels.
Top on her list of concerns are Immigration, Health care, and the economy.
Above all I'm proud of her for paying attention.

My dad will vote for Hillary to and don't laugh, but the reason he will vote for her is because she stayed by her man when
the repugs where attacking him during the sex scandal. Kinda funny because his machismo is making him vote for a woman.

Interesting what makes people tick.
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goku2008 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:26 PM
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14. women
women at my job cried when hillary losed
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:28 PM
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17. Most Latinos that I know in FL are voting for Hillary.
It's interesting - I don't know the reason for it, but I don't mind. :)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:29 PM
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18. Any idea why? nt
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:30 PM
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19. I don't get it
There are three good candidates in the race and you're writing in Gore or Clark? What a waste.
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:34 PM
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23. It's my vote. As long as I vote it won't be wasted. n/t
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yungCaucasoid Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:31 PM
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20. Most hispanics hate Blackfolk, and Understand the importance...
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 07:34 PM by yungCaucasoid
of assimilating to a Caucasoid, Pop, Culture. And they do assimilate well enough to be cognizant of how bad of an idea it is, to speak out loudly about their Hatred for Blacks.

So, I don't think this is a surprise, regarding them predominantly supporting Hillary.
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:35 PM
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24. Are you seriuos? How ignorant!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:40 PM
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27. You mean you being ignorant of other forms of prejudice?
Ever hear a New Yorker talk about New Jersey?
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:44 PM
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29. It's not serious.
It's just seeking attention through ignorance.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:41 PM
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28. What a crock of shit.
Most Hispanics/Latinos hate racists and their hateful bullshit.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:46 PM
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31. What a racist remark.
Go back under your bridge.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:09 PM
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34. Pathetic racist post
It isn't surprising given this person's racialist moniker.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:47 AM
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37. Pay no attention to the white supremacist
He got lost on the way to a Skinhead rally. :puke:
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yungCaucasoid Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:19 AM
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38. Sorry, but I'm no White-Supremacist, I feel sorry for TODAY'S Blackfolk
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 03:21 AM by yungCaucasoid
living in a Country, built on the backs of their ancestors, where the avg. one of them has NOW inherit the reward of Exclusion, Alienation, Subjugation, and Disenfranchisement, then...wake daily to absorb it all somehow be blamed on them?

I don't think I could do it.

But, me feeling sorry for them, DOES NOT ---I repeat--- DOES NOT EQUATE to:

*me being will to give up the 'privileges of White-skin' that we enjoy on The Homeland, since The Mayflower docked.
*me ceasing to speak the truth about Blackfolk's dilemma, or any other American groups.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:31 PM
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21. Same in Texas
Hispanic women in Texas seem to LOVE Hillary.

Bodes well for her in the SW.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:49 PM
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33. Hispanic men like her, too.
n/t
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imlost Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:38 PM
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26. My little brother in his 20's is voting Obama. n/t
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 07:44 PM
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30. Same here in AZ
All of the Latinos that I know love Hillary.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:11 PM
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35. Right on. Just curious, why not vote for hillary? this is a close race...
you could really make a difference. She's pretty close to gore in policy, and endorsed by wes.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:09 AM
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39. Well people vote against their self interest all of the time,
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 04:11 AM by FrenchieCat
so I'm not surprised at whatever stats that no one has bothered to post to back up their assertions....

Although it appears that the conclusion here, tonight is that Barack who grew up in Hawaii, and was partially raised by an Asian Stepfather and who's sister is Eurasian somehow won't get the support of Asians, than so be it. But unless I'm looking at a poll, I believe this is just a meme based on old polls....but we will see in Nevada, who looooves who and who doesn't.

Barack and his Stepfather, his Mother, and his sister Maya


Barack and Maya


One of the things I was trying to figure out just the other day, is why people always seem to assume that Latinos will vote for a Clinton. As Socially conservative and Religious as Latinos are and Asians are very conservative as well ...why somehow the last Clinton administration going through an impeachment process for lying about infidelity to the nation would be so favored. Certainly Hillary wasn't impeached....but many still see her as part of that. Especially with Bill so prominent on the campaign trail.

Part of how Bush won in 2000 was running on a platform of "restoring Integrity and dignity" back to the White House. By 2004, Bush had 40% of the Hispanic vote. In addition, Catholic Men don't tend to be into the "Woman as my leader" tendency...and neither are Asians. Asians have a tendency to vote Republican.....anyhow. My daughter went to a Chinese Christian school, and they had a picture of Bush on their wall. So I'm not sure about this Clinton love thing being discussed here.

My daughter's boyfriend is Chinese(Born on the mainland), this is his first election, and he's voting Obama. So there is also that age gap....that Clinton supporters should be weary about as this discussion on what race is gonna vote for whom continues.

So I hope there isn't simply too much stereotyping going and rush to judgment on how an entire group of voters are going to vote. Cause just because folks say it enough, doesn't make something a fact. A lot of polls being used to guage the Hispanic vote are based on December 07 polls where Barack wasn't polling that well with any group. After Iowa, things got shaken a bit. I respectfully ask that you don't hold those polls numbers in your fist too tightly.

Latinos are still undecided. With primaries and super primaries to be held before Democrats and Republicans nominate their presidential candidates, Latinos are waiting for a clear view of the frontrunners.

In Framingham, local Latino leader Laura Medrano said she will campaign for whoever is nominated by the Democrats. Although she favors New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, she knows he does not have much of a chance.

"I'll support whomever gets the nomination," she said. "Many Latinos like Clinton because of her experience, but some are discovering Obama."

"We all know someone who doesn't have papers," he said. "We do care about the economy and health care, but we also look for a candidate that would bring hope and a proposal for immigration reform."
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