Hillary Clinton's campaign is effectively over.

[TheWraith]

She's going to lose tomorrow in New Hampshire: all the polls there are showing an Obama lead between 8 and 12 points. You can't recover from that in a couple of days, and certainly not when you're sticking with the same strategy of "experience" and negative attacks that already helped you to lose once.

Obama wins New Hampshire. He may or may not take Nevada; there's no polling since the beginning of December, before the Clinton slide really started. If he did would be an extreme blow to Clinton, who practically owns the Nevada Democratic party. Either way, he moves on to South Carolina, where he has a 12 point lead. Half of the SC Democratic base is black folks, who--given a real chance of seeing a black president in their lifetimes--are going to rally for Obama.

Obama and Clinton are already tied nationally after Iowa: two more victories, even if Clinton takes Nevada, and Obama will be taking a clear lead in Super Tuesday states. Clinton has lost all the momentum; Obama has it.

Clinton supporters can say all they like about it not being over, but it is. You don't recover from this sort of situation.

[goldcanyonaz]

1. And Edwards is going to go on strong? Clinton better not leave this race prior to Feb. 5!

[TheWraith]

10. Edwards will make a decent showing, but he can't make it competitive. NT.

[FlyingSquirrel]

36. So sayeth an Obama supporter. n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. There's always the possibility of Obama committing a gaffe.

But looks like Clinton's busy with her own.

[elizm]

12. Ain't gonna happen. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. Heh. Never say never.

I think of all the candidates Obama is the least likely to committ a gaffe being so *ahem* articulate, but you can never be sure. They're wild cards.

[elizm]

21. Nope. He won't. I'm SURE of it. :)

[Renew Deal]

24. Or turning up a dead hooker

Unlikely

[Texas_Kat]

3. So you agree that only 2 states have the right

To elect the party's nominee.

Okay, got it.

[elocs]

11. In the real world, people want to be with a winner. That's just the way it is.

A candidate who begins to steamroll and gets hard to stop. That's why so often after an election the number of people who claimed to support the winning candidate is larger than the votes received. You would think that Kennedy beat Nixon in a landslide in 1960.

[DemCam]

31. Or, the steamroller ran out of steam in the General...

Lordy, Lordy...how often has that happened to us Ol Happy Days
Are Here Again?

[enough already]

16. I'll take that over a bunch of crony "super-delegates" n/t

[Kucinich4America]

17. Around here, that seems to depend on what year you ask the question

...and who their candidate is.

I'm no fan of Hillary, but I have consistently said that this thing should go all the way to Denver.

[Joe the Revelator]

23. Its the Clinton's own fault this is happing. What they wanted to happen is taking place, the wrong..

candidate has the momentum though.

[maddiejoan]

4. yeah

Cos everyone knows Bill won all his early primaries.

[TheWraith]

7. Nobody who's won IA and NH has lost the nomination. EVER. NT

[DemCam]

30. But that is such a short period of history...

Since we got rid of the convention system? and when was that?
You know when it was...not that long ago in the scheme of things.
So....

[Alexander]

9. And everyone knows Hillary is as likeable and charismatic as Bill.

Oh wait...

[annabanana]

5. Nothing is over until Feb. 5th. . . . . n/t

[Uncle Sinister]

6. ROTFL!

Even if Obama blows her out of the water, it will mean only a few delegates (NH is'nt winner take all", HRC has a huge, well oiled machine, and Iowa/NH are NOT really representative. She will kill in NY, Cal, and probably SC, OH, Fl, Tx and a few other big states.

She's in it until the end.

[fujiyama]

26. "Kill"? Not likely

She might put up a strong showing in some of those states, but if she ends up doing really poorly in NH, SC, and NV it won't matter much. The momentum would completely shift toward Obama . As of now, she's poised to lose SC as it is.

Aside from NY (and maybe NJ, and CT), she'll have a tough race in other states.

[ButterflyBlood]

37. South Carolina? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

n/t

[cali]

8. No it's not over for her

but keep drinking that MSM kool-aid.

[Adelante]

13. That's exaggerated, in my opinion

So many things can happen in these early days and the picture changes on a dime. I'm rooting totally for Obama, but one primary at a time for me.

[tekisui]

15. Edwards, Clinton and Obama have vowed to stay in it till the Convention.

[TheWraith]

19. Of course they'd say that.

Nobody's going to say "I'll quit if I don't get X." It makes you not serious. But if it's a choice between a quick exit and a prolonged humiliation, anybody would choose the former.

[MichiganVote]

18. Hardly.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. If wishes were horses then beggars would ride.

[Tropics_Dude83]

22. MSNBC just said

Hillary's campaign is unfortunately far from over. Apparently, she is going to withdraw from South Carolina to make her impending defeat there irrelevant since she didn't contest it. Her spin will be that the only thing that matters is Feb. 5th. She'll downplay the New Hampshire results and claim that real democrats didn't vote for Obama. She might not be able to withdraw from Nevada so easily but I wouldn't be surprised if she did.

Feb 5 Feb 5 Feb 5. And if she has more delegates but Obama has a higher percentage of the popular vote, so be it.

[Texas_Kat]

33. Sorry, that wasn't what she 'said'

It was the pundits on MSNBC talking (and making 'recommendations". One of them (the one from NH) said that Edwards came in 2nd in NH in 04. Not to re-write history or anything, but that's just a stupid mistake. Dean was 2nd in NH in 04, Duh.

[fujiyama]

25. Obama will win tomorrow and then take SC as well

but Hillary and Edwards will both be in this race through Feb 5. If she does really poorly that day, her days will be numbered and she'll face a lot of pressure to drop out.

[Cha]

27. I wish but I'm not

counting anything until it's over and I don't want to jinx it, either.

[mnhtnbb]

28. I don't hear any fat lady singing. I think this is a true 3 way horse race

for at least another month.

[BenDavid]

29. but you forget there are three states left in january after SC..You

said Nevada and that is one of the three....Now lets say that hrc does win in nevada.small state but still a win...Now we all go to michigan. Now hrc wins that state...irregardless if the delegates do not count the won totals will and that will be made public and when hrc wins that maybe the folks will take notice...Now we travel south to florida and again the delegate count may not be allowed but still you have a vote count, and hrc wins florida and in the two biggest states in january she wins....Now will the mediawhores give her the just due she should recieve? I hope so.....Now you have after florida..SUPER TUESDAY...Now if you were obama would you not like to go into super tuesday with a big win in those 2 big states? I think so but hrc now has the mo and if this is the case then HRC will win 16 of the 19 and I give obama 2 for the heck of it and Illinois....


Now whatcha gonna do obama folks? uh huh So see you all are so hyperventilating that you cannot see the big picture....All hrc needs is a win and if that happens in michigan and then florida that will tell the folks a lot about obama inexperience beginning to unwind.....

[superkia]

32. I wouldnt be so sure Clinton doesnt take NH, the media has...

been showing allot of clips of her weeping and throwing in the gender card. I have also seen some posts of people that are going to vote for her because they feel she is getting picked on, if people will vote for someone for that reason, they will vote for someone for showing emotion or being a woman alone. I think America is doomed if this is how lightly people take the elections, I myself am trying to lookout for my children but I am not sure if others are doing the same.

[Beausoir]

34. Fuck your ridiculous misinformation. She did NOT weep and it is YOU who have thrown the gender card

You make me sick to my stomach with your GOP blast-fax talking points.

[superkia]

35. Why is everything now a right wing or GOP talking point now?

I have noticed that when ever someone brings up something that others don't like, you get tossed to the other side by people who think they decide who is a republican and who is a democrat? Obviously you have some anger issues or some problems at home because if the word weep was wrong for the description, you could have replaced it with the word that YOU feel is acceptable instead of getting angry. I hope you don't have children because if this is how you react towards them, their going to end up angry and frustrated in life like you seem to be here.

[Beausoir]

38. OK..I'll play. Show me where Hillary Clinton is weeping. WEEPING. Show it to me. I'll wait.

Oh, and by the way, I DO have children. 5 of them. And, we're doing actually, remarkably well. I teach my daughters to be strong and my sons to be strong.

And, honestly is prized above all.

If that makes me an unfit parent in your tiny little universe...so be it.

You wanna continue down this path...where you bash my parenting skills? Is that REALLY what you want to do?

OK...fire away. Bring it on.