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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:29 AM Original message |
I don't think Sen. Clinton is going to recover from Iowa. |
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monktonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. good riddance n/t |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's clear the Clinton campaign didn't have a Plan B for Iowa. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I think they did have a plan B after Iowa. New Hampshire. Now their plan B is |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. But as we saw in 2004, momentum is a factor and NH is no Plan B. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm sure you're right. THE MESSIAH IS COMING. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It's kind of scary, isn't it? |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. We'll get by with Obama "pie in the sky". |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Better than Clinton's "Bushco Blue"... |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Her "experience" is cozying up to corporate interests |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Why don't you just write in "Willy Wonka" on your ballot and be done with it? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. "willy wonka"? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. Very unlikely she will recover |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Of course, if she pulls off a surprise win in N.H. on Tuesday... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. The point is that I don't see her reacting to this how she should be. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The polls would have to be dead wrong for that to happen |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Unlikely, indeed. But... |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. Eh, it's still early in my book. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. "Obama's campaign co-chair is a lobbyist" doesn't work when you defend lobbyists |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
14. She's not done yet |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Agree. Let's not forget how tough and smart the Clintons are. |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. They're tough and dirty, but not smart |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. As one who caucused in Iowa these points are what was |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. #1 Edwards already did it- she's trying to differentiate (but lost that deal), and |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Flip-flop killed John Kerry, or so they said. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. Momentum is a very powerful thing. Especially in the PERCEPTION game. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I agree that once the country really starts waking up to the possibility |
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fightindonkey (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. There You Go, A Black President. Novelty With No Experience |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. great post calimary. After watching the debate Saturday I wanted to call |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
18. She can recover, but not with Penn at the helm |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. IMHO, Penn may be a turkey, but... |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:39 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I think Clinton's candidacy has been derailed by Penn. |
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CarbonDate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. "False hope" is a horrible message in a campaign. |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
23. Its a dangerous spot, but she can still win. |
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origin1286 (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
26. Iowa |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. We had to fight her here. |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
31. Her mistake was trying to make her nomination a self-fulfilling prophecy |
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Rene (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
32. Obama's all rhetoric...no actual deal. 4 years of that admin would be chaos. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
33. Actually, the polls show EDWARDS rising, Obama static, Clinton declining |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
34. I am beginning to think the same thing |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
37. FYI-Obama doesn't have the race sewn up. |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. I want ALL the candidates to stay in the race until every last primary vote is cast. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. It's WAAAAAAAAAY too early to call it a done deal. |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Funny what happens |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Or Obama, for that matter. |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
43. america will again be fooled...obama, a one page resume. |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-07-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. Last week it was "Clinton is finished" |
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