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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:33 AM Original message |
Kerry position on IWR |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. The fact remains that |
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Hav (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. . |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Excellent Post... |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. I hope so too, |
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demnan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. Of course we know Kerry wouldn't have started the war |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. I agree that pro war is a stretch |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
5. Another contorted apologia for the unjustifiable. The examples of Byrd, |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. "Another contorted apologia for the unjustifiable ..." |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. Kerry's support for the crusade and his commitment to the status quo |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Give Us A Small Break (Again) |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I hope you are not suggesting that Kerry does not support sharon? |
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Kimber Scott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. Bush didn't need IWR |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. "he always had the power to rush to war. " |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The Relative Ineffectiveness of the War Powers Resolution |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. If this is totally accurate- |
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zoeyfong (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Irrelevant. Kerry/edwards are responsible for what *they* did, not for |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. When it comes to "explaining" the IWR... |
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revcarol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. WOOHOO. |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. So bush* must have been against the IWR. Kerry says that |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Bush never intended to come before Congress |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. he is too stupid to be pres since he trusted GW w/the lives of our troops |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. ''breach of trust'' |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
18. Sorry MD, but this explanation, like Kerry's vote, doesn't pass muster |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. With respect to this, Kerry said, nobody voted precisely for a war. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Oh puhleeze, insult your own intelligence if you must |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. "spin meant to confuse and obfuscate the real point" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Well the Dems certainly didn't have a chance if they didn't try |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Well, he has his reasons. He stated them clearly and I accept them |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No, it is a reason not to vote for him |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Don't you lump me in with anyone |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. bigtree, I'm sorry you feel so badly treated. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I argue that Kerry saw the writing on the wall |
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diamondsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. See you may have hit on the difference- |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. BTW, I love Dennis Kucinich |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
19. "bush misled me" doesn't wash |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Well, I believe it will 'wash' with most voters. Most understand Bush lied |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. so bush didn't lie about wmd? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. He believed that the reintroduction of inspectors would likely |
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tobius (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Does he still believe it would have been resolved that way? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Not many did believe Saddam would comply. Even some who voted 'no' didn't |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
28. Your statements show that he is pro-war. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Wellstone was for force as a last resort although he voted no on the IWR |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. So? Especially "So?" since he voted against the IWR. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yeah, but you just said that last resort meant war, no nuance |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. No, war as a last resort PLUS voting FOR the IWR |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Wellstone was friends with Kerry. He didn't think Kerry was too pro-war |
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zoeyfong (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
41. Save it. And no one is letting bush off the hook, we're just not letting |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Facts are stupid things. |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. People forget Hussein was not allowing inspections in October 2002. |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Don't think of it like that. Think of it as "Progressive intervention" |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. People also tend fo forget, there were no weapons to inspect |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Inspectors had been out of the country for four years |
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nomatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. What was your source ? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
53. Main point where this statement gets Kerry accused of a political vote is |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Point taken and understood. That was my own editorial comment |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-04 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
56. Kerry doesn't want the vote of anyone who believes he would have taken the |
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