POLL: The Ghoul is "screwn"....sinking like a stone

[jefferson_dem]

On the eve of the Iowa caucuses, Rudy Giuliani's once solid lead in nationwide polling of Republican voters has vanished. The latest nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press finds about equal levels of support for John McCain (22%), Rudy Giuliani (20%), and Mike Huckabee (17%).

The poll, conducted Dec. 19-30 among 471 Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters nationwide, finds that Giuliani's support has slipped 13 points since September. Huckabee has gained 13 points over that period, and McCain – who many analysts all but wrote off over the summer – has rebuilt his base nationwide from a low of 16% in September to 22% today.



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http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/381.pdf

[still_one]

1. unfortunately, the Iowa primary does not necessarily represent the way it will end /nt

[jefferson_dem]

2. These are national numbers.

:hi:

[still_one]

5. Obviously I didn't read the link. I just read it. That is interesting /nt

[NYCGirl]

3. In a way, I'm a little disappointed. I wanted the rest of the country to really know

what a fraud Giuliani is; I wanted everyone who thinks of him as "America's Mayor" to know what a secretive, divisive, petty little tyrant he really is. I was really hoping a full-scale campaign would finally unmask him.

[still_one]

6. No I am not, and I hope it stays that way. There are enough so-called "reagan" Democrats

who are really independents, who might just fall for that fraud

I hope hukabee get the nomination because he actually represents what the republican party is today:

1. Anti-Science
2. Anti-choice
3. Anti-gay
etc. etc. etc.

[flvegan]

8. He also would have been easily beaten in the GE.

Shame, kinda.

[speedoo]

17. I'm with you, neighbor.

But it's still good to know that he's imploding, as expected.

[wtmusic]

4. Replaced by McCain and Huckabee?

not sure which is worse

[suston96]

7. And how about the Democratic nationals? From the same link:

Hillary Maintains Wide National Lead

The Democratic contest has remained
largely stable nationwide. Despite state polls
that show very close races in Iowa, New
Hampshire and South Carolina, Hillary
Clinton maintains a 20-point lead over Barack
Obama among registered Democrats and
Democratic-leaning voters nationwide (46%
to 26%), with John Edwards holding at 14%.

Clinton continues to benefit from a
modest gender gap, drawing somewhat greater
support among women (49%) than among
men (41%). She also leads Obama among
white voters (46%, vs. 22% and 16% for
Obama and Edwards, respectively). But
Obama matches her among black voters (47%
for Obama, 45% for Clinton). The Democratic Primary Race

46% Clinton
26% Obama
14% Edwards

Mar Apr Jul Sep Oct Nov Dec
Based on Democratic and Dem-leaning registered voters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Even If HRC Loses IA, NH, And SC Obama Has To Change Those Numbers By 2/5

Because Super Tuesday is a national primary!!!

[NOVA_Dem]

9. OH CRAP!! The only leading candidate that could compete...

with him in a general would be Edwards and he would probably lose. Geez, I hope there are enough freeper types that would stay home if he's nominated.

CRAP!! CRAP!! CRAP!!

[0007]

11. We all know who the freepers won't be voting for! LOL!!

[Sparkly]

10. Wow -- that was a freefall since September. What happened??

What caused his slide?

[rox63]

12. Scandal after scandal after scandal n/t

[TlalocW]

13. Partly just more exposure, partly his scandals

I honestly don't think you can watch Rudy for any amount of time without coming away feeling queasy about him - either in terms of his ideas or his looks. His beady-eyed shiftiness which is his natural demeanor is off-putting.

TlalocW

[no_hypocrisy]

16. List

1. Bernie Kerik's indictment and close association to Giuliani
2. Giuliani having a mistress (now his wife) before he got a divorce.
3. Giuliani using public funds to pay for for security and transportation for his mistress and then hiding the expenditures in the City Budget.
4. Dissing Iowa and New Hampshire by bypassing them to concentrate on Florida and California.
5. 9-11, 9-11 broken record; let's bomb Iran; no new ideas for the economy, health care crisis, legislative gridlock, foreign policy, etc. Essentially no leadership skills. New York is a big city but he's just been a mayor, period.

[speedoo]

18. 6. He's a complete fraud and phony...

and even stupid rethugs have been realizing wnat we in NYC have known for decades.

[saltpoint]

20. I don't think his being a repulsive asshole can be ruled out.

The more he spoke to people the less they liked of him, and at this point, everywhere he turns the media are aflutter with several other candidates who've slipped past him in support.

Giuliani is the rigid, dark, caped figure in a plague novel, loading corpses on a lorry through a foggy Medieval village.

[Eurobabe]

14. Quick call 9-1-1

:rofl:

Ghouliani is toasted, just like Foghorn.

[tulsakatz]

19. I saw a poll this morning on MSNBC.........

..and it was about the Iowa caucus. Giuliani was at 5%, even Paul and Thompson were at 9%!!

I know Giuliani does not care about how he does in Iowa but you would think he would care about being perceived as dead last!!!

[saltpoint]

21. The 9-11 theme is Rudy's only tune, and that ain't enough for a set.

To an extent, people can be frightened about "terrorists" striking in New York and L.A., maybe Chicago. But not quite as much in Evansville and Pierre and Biloxi. Rudy's supposed appeal was stitched together from the shards of that one Tuesday in September quite a few years back now.

He could, at first glance, be blamed for not having expanded the number of reasons for voters to support him. But a more honest look, IMO, was that he never had any reasons for ANY voters to support him in the first place. His city's fireman offer a far different and more believable account of 9/11 and his so-called heroism on that day. His city's voters say they decidedly prefer his successor as their mayor.

And in recent months, discerning voters have abandoned him the way anonymous bystanders step over a drunk, passed out from the night before, half on the curb, half off, disheveled and giving off a powerful stench.

I hope Giuliani's polling continues to tank. I'm not at ease at all with having someone like him anywhere near the White House.

[Yukari Yakumo]

22. 22% is not a number I'd be secure with.

Especially with 15% still undecided. (As opposed to 6% still undecided for the Dems.)

[saltpoint]

23. Both Thompson and Giuliani are headed for crash landings, looks like.

No complaints.