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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:35 AM Original message |
Yes. I think Obama is electable. |
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mourningdove92 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree that Barack Obama is |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I feel the same way, but If I see one more |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I do not think it is because he is black. Yes, there are people |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. He's 46 years old. He would by no means be the youngest president elected. |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
62. I remember |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. He is electable. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. Obama the best sice JFK, people from Des Moines poll today feel the same way also... |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. I agree. nt |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. i will believe it when i see it |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
7. He is not electable. He is an inexperienced light-weight |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. A lightweight who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. There is a difference |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Respectfully disagree. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. No. That is not what he said. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. I agree that |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. You sound bitter, Emerald. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. what a stupid thing to say |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. "this country is as ready as it's ever been" |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah, even in the once-removed "other people think this way" tactic, that argument sucks |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. it's not a "once removed" tactic if you see the sexism all day at the office, in the streets etc |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. But you can't say "Oh well, there are bigots, therefore I won't pursue that job/policy" |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. on issues and action, absolutely. but supporting a candidate because "it's time for..." |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. You're right, supporting someone because of their race or gender alone is also silly |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. and i'm the first to admit, i will hold a woman or black man to a more progressive standard |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. i wish i had your faith in the populace, but fear and ignorance has been bringing out |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. one need look no further than DU |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. But where does fear of ballot box bigots end? Doesn't that strategy axe support for gay marriage? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. well that's what interesting- my feeling is that he's chasing the bigot vote already |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I have an extreme problem with Obama's triangulation, as I do with Hillary's |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. it should be about what is most important- which is why it's a shame to see the triangulations |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. You seem to have forgotten 2006. And this year will, I believe, |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. so, your personal extrapolation... i.e. guess is as good as mine. thank you. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. No, I made it clear, I don't extrapolate from my personal experience. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. 04 was a SQUEAKERfor the WH. (thread topic) and your opinions are based on |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Deleted message |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. discussing the WH elections- Bush won bigtime? Is that your point, or do you totally lack one? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. No, cupcake, you originally wrote that we lost the WH in '06 |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. you have an opinion that there's less racism these days. it's not backed up by anything |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Wow! U sure can be nasty. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
14. Hey, I'm fine with Obama. |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. He is NOT electable... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Maybe he's not electable where you're from, but don't |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. You are going to be given a reality check when he loses. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Or you will be when he is elected. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Of course I will vote for him if he is the nominee, although that may be futile. nt |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. many believe that racism does not exist in America. nt. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. Stating Obama is a 'lightweight' with a failure like Bush in office is entertaining |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
19. Agreed. I believe he can easily win a popular majority. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Thanks. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. reality will encroach soon. nt. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. JJ & Al Sharpton still believe there are many bigots. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. what a whispy straw man, my dear |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. You might want to revisit the Harold Ford senate race in TN. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Was Ford expected to win? No. A big fat no. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. uhm, he was expected until the thinly veiled racist ads cam out and if you read this article |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. He was never ahead in the polls, was he? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. he was if you read down further. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. c'mon. nt. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Go ahead |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
38. yes. in 2016 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. he's running now. And if he does well in Iowa on Thursday |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. maaybee... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. It's basically saying we should pander to racists |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. I totally agree |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. It appears several generations must die off to get rid of this racist bullsh*t... |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
58. The amount of Independents this guy is getting is remarkable. |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. No one is electable if the ***holes steal the election! |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. kick |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-02-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
69. Hell yeah, Obama is electable...... |
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