Those of you who had the horrendous gall to call Wes Clark a

[deminflorida]

Republican, and are now standing here supporting Ralph Nader who IS not a member of the Democratic Party are the modern day plague of progressive politics.

There is no welcome mat for you here, and you should leave.

If you don't like all the shit that's falling on your head right now then all I can say is

Payback is a bitch.

Get used to soon becoming homeless....

Well, Free-Republic will take you I'm sure. That's where you really need to be anyway.

You're traitors to your own cause, so sleep well tonight.

[HFishbine]

1. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[BootinUp]

2. damn is this post legal now? :)

Don't hold nothin back deminflorida, its good therapy.

[EXE619K]

3. You're funny!

I like that.

For those of you, who had the horrendous gall to call others with their own opinions "Plague of the Progressive politics".....

Need I say more?

:D

[TrueAmerican]

4. Here! Here!

They are Bush Enablers.

These people make me sick.

[unfrigginreal]

5. A post that would make Rimjob proud!

Nice work. :puke:

[deminflorida]

10. Even Rimjob never called Wes Clark a Republican, but some

people here did, so if your thowing up, you should.

It makes me want to throw-up as well.

[liberalnurse]

16. he insinuated such......

[bowens43]

23. Maybe if you threw up

you would stop spewing your venom.

[deminflorida]

27. Here's some venom for you....

From the rules:

"If you wish to contribute to the defeat of the Democratic candidate for president, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website. As the election season draws closer, we may expand this rule to include Democratic candidates for other political offices.

Democratic Underground may not be used for political organizing activity by supporters of any political party other than the Democratic party. Supporters of certain other political parties may use Democratic Underground for limited partisan activities in political races where there is no Democratic party candidate."

Trying to sell your justification for voting on a third party progressive ticket is paramount to organizing opposition to the Democratic Party Candidate.

[bowens43]

32. I feel sorry for you.

Why don't you go sleep it off.

[Forkboy]

6. Imagine some DUers as amoebas....

[mike_c]

7. "the modern day plague of progressive politics...."

Damn, that's one of the sweetest things anyone's said to me all day!

:hug:

[aquart]

14. Could someone, ANYONE define "progressive"???

Because I swear to god I have no idea what we think we're talking about here.

[HFishbine]

24. Great Question

Kerry has signed on to some of the policies of the Progressive Policy Instisute -- it's not a dirty word. And not perfectly defined either. I tend to think of it as a pragmatic approach to acheiving liberal goals without rejecting traditional values just because they are traditional. Keep what works, change what you can when and where you can, but keep improving.

[West Coast Democrat]

8. I'll probably get flamed for this but.....

DU should probably not allow Nader-supporting posts now that he's running against us. He IS running against the Democratic nominee. And we don't allow posts that support Bush*...who is also running against us.

[deminflorida]

13. Exactly....

From the rules:

"If you wish to contribute to the defeat of the Democratic candidate for president, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website. As the election season draws closer, we may expand this rule to include Democratic candidates for other political offices.

Democratic Underground may not be used for political organizing activity by supporters of any political party other than the Democratic party. Supporters of certain other political parties may use Democratic Underground for limited partisan activities in political races where there is no Democratic party candidate."

Trying to sell your justification for voting on a third party progressive ticket is paramount to organizing opposition to the Democratic Party Candidate.

[HFishbine]

18. I've seen very few

Nader-supporting posts -- as in "I'm voting for Nader." Some people seem to be ticked off, however, at posts refuting the notion that he cost Gore the election or defending his right to run. Where do you want to draw the line?

[deminflorida]

33. In Rome when someone was a traitor.....

his name was striken from all the enscriptions on public buildings...

Like Bush - Nader should now become *......

[sadiesworld]

9. Talk some shit!!!!!!!

[Kimber Scott]

11. I second that emotion!

If you all like Bush so much, be honest about it. Don't just hide behind a vote for Nader.

Ideological purism is nothing more than narcissism run amok. Selfish. Selfish. Selfish.

(I used to like Nader, but damn he's really pissing me off.)

:spank:

Bad Nader. Bad.

[LTR]

12. Nader's a phony

He's a PINO - Progressive In Name Only.

Think about how rich he bacame with help from the Bush Economy, then tell me how progressive he is.

He's all talk. And just a suck-up to the far left. He can go to hell.

[Bozola]

41. Such eloquence! You've convinced me, Sirrah!

[w13rd0]

15. "Get used to soon becoming homeless...."

As long as we're going the "fear and terror" route to garner votes, why not proclaim that we'll all soon be dead, or that we'll be eating our grandparents off crackers as finely ground patte?

[MrSoundAndVision]

17. You idiots must have forgotten who called democracy off in 2000

THE SUPREME COURT, REMEMBER!?!? Why aren't you people fucking creating some fancy-smancy emoticon regarding Justice Scalia writing in his opinion of Gore v. Bush something along the lines of "we must stop the vote counting because then said petitioner would contend the election..." or something like that.

Oh no, all I hear here at the DU is what the media has said: That fucking Ralph Nader did it. You know, 50% more votes in Florida went uncounted in 2000 than even voted for Nader.

So rethink your positions. And focus on the real problem: the oligarchy in Washington.

[deminflorida]

20. My position is completely in accordance with the rules of this

board:

From the rules:

"If you wish to contribute to the defeat of the Democratic candidate for president, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website. As the election season draws closer, we may expand this rule to include Democratic candidates for other political offices.

Democratic Underground may not be used for political organizing activity by supporters of any political party other than the Democratic party. Supporters of certain other political parties may use Democratic Underground for limited partisan activities in political races where there is no Democratic party candidate."

Trying to sell your justification for voting on a third party progressive ticket is paramount to organizing opposition to the Democratic Party Candidate.

[MoonRiver]

19. THANK YOU for that post!

It needed to be said. And it must be repeated, over, and over.

[bowens43]

25. You've got to be kidding.

No wonder Clark got his right wing neo-con ass kicked.

[The Magistrate]

28. Why Should He Be Kidding, Fellow?

His statement is in dead earnest, and dead accurate.

"Kill one, warn one hundred."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[bowens43]

31. Were you a Clark supporter too?

I bet you were.....

[The Magistrate]

35. And Who Was Your Candidate, Dear?

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Forkboy]

37. I find your words interesting,my friend

you seemed genuinely upset at terwilligers banning,yet here and elsewhere you openly advocate doing so again.

Do you wish to see me banned as well?

[bowens43]

21. Who do you think you are?

You seem to want to nothing but insult people and cause trouble. It's attitudes like yours that cause people to jump over to third parties.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

I here by kick you out of the Democratic party. There is no welcome mat here for you.

[deminflorida]

26. Rules are Rules....

From the rules:

"If you wish to contribute to the defeat of the Democratic candidate for president, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website. As the election season draws closer, we may expand this rule to include Democratic candidates for other political offices.

Democratic Underground may not be used for political organizing activity by supporters of any political party other than the Democratic party. Supporters of certain other political parties may use Democratic Underground for limited partisan activities in political races where there is no Democratic party candidate."

Trying to sell your justification for voting on a third party progressive ticket is paramount to organizing opposition to the Democratic Party Candidate.

[Name removed]

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[deminflorida]

34. Nader is a traitor.....

his name should now be * just like shrub's.....

[The Magistrate]

22. Indeed, Mr. Florida

A very large proportion of those who have alibied for Wrecker Nader's previous effort, and spoken in support of this one, have spent a good deal of time previously calling just about every prominent Democratic Party office holder and official "enablers" of Republicans, and have, as a matter of fact, aimed far more vitriolic comment against Democratic Party members here in this forum than they have against the criminals of the '00 Coup.

The fact is that some people who consider themselves exemplars of the left share a common goal with the reactionaries gathered under the banner of the Republican Party, namely, the destruction of the Democratic Party. Since coalitions are formed by identity of interest rather than identity of principle, these people find themselves, as a matter of practical fact, in open alliance with the Republican Party just now. They may wriggle at the plain statement of this truth, and protest shrill and long at hearing it, but the one thing they cannot do is sensibly deny it, for there is no question of the commonality of desire to destroy the Democratic Party both groups share.

"Kill one, warn one hundred."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[John_H]

30. Shut UP! How can you ask people to be consistent? Didn't you

read directive 12343 in the Authoritarians Guide to One- Percenterism? It states clearly: "Former military personnel are Republican, regardless of their intent to unseat a republican in an election or the progressiveness of their positions."

Directive 456344 (Special lifetime progressive status for Ralph Nader) states: "Whereas Ralph Nader shall be henceforth deemed progressive....none of the following...shall cause him to Our Fearless Progressivisimo:

1) Enabling right wing Administrations by depriving their chief opponents votes

2) Profiteering from any or any combination of the following corporations: Merk...Wal-Mart....Viacom.

3) Preventing workers from unionizing at....organization controls.

3) Displaying symptoms of megalomania...."

[Shanty Oilish]

36. They hardly compare

I'm not a Nader fan but the man was working his butt off for issues close to Democratic hearts, way back in the 60's. Clark wouldn't even admit publicly to being a Dem---why not?---until late last year.

Without Nader's example of what a thankless task it is to be an independent, people like General Clark would have to learn the hard way.

ed: Horrendous gall? Is that anything like perfidious albion?

[Scott Lee]

38. Let's see about Clark....

Supports a flag amendment

Supports global US military domination

Supports the School of the America's US terror and torture training facility


If he's not a Republican, he is 90 percent there!

[BootinUp]

40. Your argument resembles a pretzel

A little dough all twisted and lots of air.

[Bozola]

39. You're traitors to your own cause...

Golly, it sure is hard to be traitors to somebody else's cause!

You'd think Nader has pics of Kerry in compromising positions with sheep from the way you're overreacting.

Golly, there's a thought! Is that what you're really afraid of? You can be candid here.

[Moderator]

42. Locking...

Please do not post inflammatory messages.

Thanks,

DU Moderator