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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:20 PM
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NH POLL: Obama 32 (+16), Hillary 30 (-5), Edwards 18
WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama has wiped out Hillary Clinton's once-commanding lead in New Hampshire and the two remain virtually tied in Iowa, a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg News poll has found, as more and more voters get off the fence and decide whom to support.

Obama drew backing from 32% of New Hampshire Democratic primary voters to Clinton's 30% -- a dramatic shift from September, when a similar poll found him trailing 35% to 16% in the state, which will hold its presidential primary Jan. 8.

In Iowa, which opens the 2008 presidential voting with its Jan. 3 caucuses, the poll found that Obama and Clinton remain in a three-way dead heat with former Sen. John Edwards.

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The fresh poll results in New Hampshire are problematic for Clinton because the state had been considered a bastion that could help her recover momentum if she has a weak showing in Iowa.

Obama is posing the principal threat there because the poll found Edwards placing a distant third with 18%. Other candidates -- Sens. Christopher J. Dodd and Joseph Biden, Rep. Dennis Kucinich and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson -- drew only single-digit support in both New Hampshire and Iowa.

Obama's support in New Hampshire shows strength among independent voters, and he has made gains even among women and less-educated people who have generally gravitated to Clinton. Backing for Clinton dropped to 30% from 35% in September.

But Obama also seemed to gain from the large pool of undecided voters: in September, 17% of New Hampshire Democrats were undecided; now, 11% have yet to make up their minds.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll28dec28,0,5452139.story?coll=la-politics-campaign
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:22 PM
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1. Whatever happens in Iowa, I say Obama takes NH because of the independent vote there.
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 07:23 PM by calteacherguy
Of course, I do HOPE Omama wins Iowa. But for me, a primary vote (expecially if it's close) carries more weight than a caucus. A caucus does not weight all votes equally.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:26 PM
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5. And think about what he can do in states that actually have black people
He will crush Hillary.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:24 PM
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2. s--t. oh well.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:08 PM
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24. I like your sig line, annie.
:hi:
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:04 AM
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29. thanks!
:)
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:24 PM
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3. from the article:
But other poll findings suggest Clinton might gain stature in both states if Democrats' concern about world affairs increases in the wake of the assassination of former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. The poll shows that Democrats in both Iowa and New Hampshire -- as they do elsewhere around the country -- consider Clinton far-better equipped than her rivals to safeguard national security.

...

In Iowa, Clinton is backed by 29% of Democratic voters, compared with 26% for Obama and 25% for Edwards -- negligible differences because they are within the poll's margin of error.

But when the survey focused more narrowly on voters who said they are certain or very likely to actually participate in the Iowa caucuses, Clinton's edge was more pronounced: 31% of likely caucus-goers support Clinton, while Obama's support drops to 22%. Edwards' support was unchanged.

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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:27 PM
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6. you had to work hard to pick those slivers of hope out of that article, huh?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 07:28 PM by JackORoses
so Clinton will ride the wave of fear generated by Bhutto's death to victory?

what a crock.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:31 PM
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8. it's just information from the article the OP linked to
If you didn't like what I offered, you didn't have to respond.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:33 PM
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10. Thats actually in Iowa, not NH though
So you should try offering correct info next time :-)
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:37 PM
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13. the article the OP
linked to covered both States.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:32 PM
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9. If I was really looking for a
"sliver of hope", I would have offered this tidbit:

"Overall, fully 79% of Iowa Democrats say she is prepared for being president; only 43% say Obama is."

Now THAT makes one hopeful!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:37 PM
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12. Also from the article which shows this may NOT help her:
"He represents an opportunity to make a fresh start," said Jay Fitzpatrick, 53, of East Andover, N.H., who considered supporting Clinton but recently decided to back Obama instead. "She is too much a part of an Establishment down in Washington that has been part of the mess we are in."

ibid

The assassination will remind people she helped get us into the mess we're in.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:25 PM
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4. GOBAMA!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:29 PM
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7. Mmmmmm ... delicious poll numbers.
Gobama.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:36 PM
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11. The Bill Shaheen Bounce holds! Thanks, Hillaryworld, for the gift that keeps on giving...
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 07:37 PM by ClarkUSA
:rofl:
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:53 PM
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14. Now if only we can get Mark Penn on national TV somehow. nm
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:54 PM
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15. Ugliest Man in Political Strategy?
Penn would own Axelrod in that.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:00 PM
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17. Shhhhh! He's NOT ugly, he's very very handsome and speaks very convincingly.
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 08:01 PM by ClarkUSA
At least that's what my letter to Hillary HQ will say.... ;-)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:03 PM
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19. I mean how could he compete with Trippi standing right next to him on Hardball
Who actually looks normal.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:23 PM
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20. Well, he'd have to insist on being all by his glorious, brilliant self
Excuse me while I gag -- I'm writing to Hillary HQ right now. lol!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:29 PM
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22. To call Penn "smarmy" is an insult to "smarmy."
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:14 AM
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31. lol!
Gawd, did you have to surprise me with that fugly photo of Mark Penn? He's much more ugly on the inside, though.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:59 PM
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16. Maybe we can start a letter-writing campaign called "Mark, We Need Your Handsome Face On TV!!"
:rofl:
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:06 AM
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30. so you're saying your man is gaining ground b/c of something ill that someone on the hil...
camp did, and not because of who obama actually is? sad. maybe you could tout the good things your chosen candidate does, instead of going negative, the thing supposedly you are ...nev mind, all your posts are the same. negative.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:03 PM
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18. No matter what the polls say out there, it is so damn odd
that Obama Idolers can find one where he leads...ha ha ha ha ha ha ah
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:25 PM
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21. the last 3 polls out of NH have gone: Tie, Obama +2, Obama +2
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:45 PM
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23. Beautiful
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:22 AM
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25. Beautiful numbers!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:24 AM
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26. Welcome back!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:27 AM
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27. Thanks!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:42 AM
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28. We should all love these numbers!
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