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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:15 PM
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I love the American Conservative's front cover
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 08:17 PM by antiimperialist
Is it me, or the American Conservative paints Rudy Giuliani as a would-be Adolf Hitler?


I wasn't about to read that whole big article, so i went to the last paragraph, which usually summarizes the tone:

Giuliani’s tendency to conflate all terrorist groups—whether Islamist or not and whether they attack the United States or just allies like Israel—led Fred Kaplan of Slate to dub him the “anti-statesman.” Sending him and his team to the White House might actually ignite World War IV"


That's weird. Isn't this a right-wing publication?

http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_01_14/cover.html
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:17 PM
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1. the 'Authoritarian Temptation' article is a trip...
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 08:30 PM by annie1
you should read it. I really intensely dislike giuliani, so it put a smile on my face. :D
http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_01_14/article1.html

"The longer he stayed in office, the more drooling Giuliani’s thirst for power seemed to become. Popular first-term efforts to crack down on menacing squeegee men and turnstile-jumpers morphed into senseless, vindictive second-term crusades against hot dog vendors and jaywalkers."

here's is a good excerpt

" By the nature of the office, even the most excessively secretive, grudge-harboring authoritarian in charge of a municipality can only do so much damage. But the dangers posed by allowing such an individual to rule the most powerful nation on earth are boundless. And those general risks are greatly enhanced after eight long years of unprecedented expansions of government power and systematic erosions of virtually every check on executive authority.

A President Giuliani would inherit an office bestowed with such dark powers as indefinite detention, interrogation methods widely considered to be torture, vast warrantless surveillance authority, and an impenetrable wall of secrecy secured by multiple executive and judicial instruments. Set all of that next to a submissive and impotent Congress and an equally supine media—to say nothing of the prospect of another terrorist attack to exacerbate every one of those factors—and it is hard to imagine a more toxic combination than Rudy Giuliani and the Oval Office.

Our political landscape has now tilted so heavily in favor of unchecked presidential prerogatives that even a lame duck, wildly unpopular, and universally discredited George W. Bush is rarely denied what he wants. With this framework now bolted in place, a newly elected, shrewd, and inherently aggressive Giuliani, whose certainty about his own rightness is matched only by his contempt for those who disagree, could easily run roughshod over any attempts to constrain his actions.

The Sept. 11 transformation of Giuliani into the swaggering, beloved “America’s Mayor” has erased from the collective memory just how severely his bullying ways had overstayed their welcome in New York. Giuliani was widely disliked by 1999, when his approval ratings dropped to a Bush-like 37 percent."
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:19 PM
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3. Looks like this is a liberal magazine, lol
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 08:19 PM by antiimperialist
I thought it was conservative because of the name.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:24 PM
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4. American Conservative is Pat Buchanan's magazine
Irony of ironies. Satirizing Giulini with a fascist caricature.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:31 PM
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6. It's odd because Glen Greenwald's article is featured in it
See the front cover.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:24 PM
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5. is it libertarian maybe..
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 08:38 PM by annie1
they're anti-war and anti-bush, but small government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Conservative
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:58 PM
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11. Paleoconservative.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:19 PM
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2. The resemblance on that cover seems to be to Mussolini, not Hitler.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:33 PM
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7. Yea I agree....and come to think of it...he is more like Mussolini
He will sell out his own family to gain more power....
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:45 PM
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8. I think that in this article, and this cover
we can find an indication that many conservatives are now, at long last, beginning to see just how badly there house is in disarray.

Another sign is the squabbling between the Republican candidates.

Another sign is the dropping number of people who consider themselves Republicans.


This 2008 election year will be a fight, but I believe that the Democrats control there own destiny on it. Meaning that the Democrats will win unless we do something incredibly stupid which causes us to lose it.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:54 PM
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9. Giuliani's "team" is a collection of extreme pro-Israel neocons
As opposed to the other school in the GOP, which is the Bush "walk hand in hand with the Saudis" republicans.

I just saved y'all the trouble of reading the article. Buchanan hates those pro-Israel types.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 08:57 PM
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10. They're right-wing, but they're published by Buchanan. They're certainly not neocon.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 09:12 PM
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12. I assume the reference is to the Roman emperor Claudius
...as in "I, Claudius."
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 09:14 PM
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13. Il Douche' !!!
:patriot:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:05 PM
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14. Il Douche bag
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:38 PM
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15. excuse me
Edited on Mon Dec-24-07 11:40 PM by ellenfl
might actually ignite World War IV


what happened to ww3? does this mean it is a foregone conclusion that ww3 will happen before january 2009?

ellen fl
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